"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

I will never understand the mindset of people who have dogs like these around children.

We have a Newfoundland. We are vigilant with her around the children because she's a dog, and even though they are bred to be gentle they are still animals and thus unpredictable. A breed designed to be aggressive should be nowhere near children.

That poor girl. She must have been so terrified.

Thankyou.

A stray cat pulled out an artery in my arm and I got sepsis a few years ago while helping the RSPCA catch the stray cat. My scar is bigger than her scratch, and I didn't really know what to say to her! Or what to think!

I did adopt the stray cat afterwards though, much to the RSPCA ladies bemusement. The cat is sat on me now, docile as a sloth. They chopped his balls off, I figured tit for tat. And I went to catch the cat, he didn't go for me, he was just trying to run away.

I don't like this neighbours dog btw, it just seems a bit weird that the other neighbour is saying it went for her but she has a tiny scratch.

I do think something needs to be done about the XL bullies, but I have no idea what.

A pp suggestion of an approved dog breed list seems a good idea going forward. Start consulting, and then implementing in 10-15 years. I don't know what you'd do in the meantime though.

Even before the restrictions a large majority of attacks happened inside people's homes.

I don't know what the answer is, the type of person who gets a dog from someone at the pub, is very likely not the type of person who will register it , or get a licence, or take it to training classes.
And, by virtue of having such a dangerous dog, they won't be the most approachable people to challenge if you suspect they aren't abiding by the conditions set out!
(Can you even train-out natural instincts in an adult - or any - dog anyway?)

Ergh this makes me so effing angry. What’s worse than a bred-to-kill xl bully around children? A pack of the bloody things who are more likely to attack and kill because there are 3 of them. Any parent whose child is killed by the family ‘pet’ should go to prison for manslaughter. I hope this girl’s parents live with unbearable guilt for the rest of their lives

😂 You're a bit special aren't you?! 😅

Perhaps your sister should read this as your niece could well be stressing the dog out by cuddling it
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/canine-corner/202405/new-research-confirms-dogs-really-dont-like-being-hugged

I cringe when I see photos or videos of dogs being hugged as most of the time the oblivious owners have no idea the poor dogs are giving off "I'm not comfortable with this" vibes

These dogs are so focussed when they attack that even bullets fired directly into them won't force them to let go. You have to kill them in order to get them off. Pepper spray, hairspray whatever might sting but once those jaws have locked and the dog is into a killing frame of mind they don't care. They literally don't feel it. They cannot break focus. I suppose a taser might work but we can't walk around with tasers just in case we might meet a Bully. They are dangerous.

I have a very prey driven terrier. She's trained, she's fine, but if she's hunting then you can shout yourself inside out, she's not coming back until she's lost the scent. These dogs are like that, only with blood.

We're expected to spend hundreds, even thousands, to learn how to drive. Many more thousands spent on insurance, fines for wrong doing, ceased licence for serious or repeated offences.
But any idiot can get a dog. Any dog.
And a family loses a loved one.
It's just tragic.

I imagine there is some crossover between people who think XL bullies are great pets to have, and those who think car insurance and MOTs and boring shit like that is unneccessary

Oh well that’s alright then! 🙄 That totally justifies the reason why people should keep a banned breed of dog instead of a horse… NOT!

Horses aren’t bred to kill! They are not carnivorous and do not have killer instincts. They constantly live in flight mode not fight mode and if they kill someone it’s not because they just randomly decided to turn and attack someone, it’s usually because they got spooked! You cannot compare the two animals! One is a natural heard animal whose natural instinct is to run away, the other one is not!

I think the law should change so that it is illegal to own one of these dogs if there are under 18s in the home.

Another child's life gone because of selfish parents who think an xl bully makes a family pet. That poor girl paid for her parents awful decision and it should not be allowed.

They aren't safe, but at least adults can decide if they want to live with one and take the risk. A child can't. They should be banned from being near children

@Fizbosshoes you can't out train genetics.

I am not a believer in wiping out animals that kill humans but there is a different between the odd predator attacking a human when they enter the predators territory and a breed of dog that has been so over bred from one line that it's caused issues within the breed. These dogs have been let down by humans but it's time they were all euthanased or tighten the laws so anyone who owns one cannot have children, vulnerable or elderly living or entering the same premises. If a fit and healthy 30 year old wants to take a gamble so be it but you don't gamble a child's life

And what about over 18s who keep them and are unable to control them so they just end up killing some random child who is happily playing in the local park. They shouldn’t be owned by anyone.

I used to carry a small tin of hairspray, but attacks happen so fast that grappling in your bag for a spray, getting the lid off and orienting it in the right direction takes time..
Maybe the previous Poster ( Belgian biscuits?? ) who trains Protection dogs might have an idea as to what is best.

Deep heat would probably work for a non dog fighting breed.

The thick parents should be dragged through the courts for endangering their children. The parents are 100% to blame here.

We had a facebook post last week where one had escaped and was roaming around the neighbourhood. Apparently according to the morons of FB, the person who had called the dog warden were putting a death penalty on the poor lamb and should have taken it into their home.
That's what you are up against.
That poor child. What a horrific way to die.

So just to check...

The best thing to do if the dogs attacking someone else is to twist the collar and pull up?

And you're buggered if it's attacking you.

Is that right?

I use a break stick for dogs who don't 'out'. It's used as a crowbar on their molars. If a dog has a good grip it can be lifted, slammed, screamed at and it won't readjust.

Kill them. Kill them all.
Don't let one more child die.

I don't have dogs, is that putting a stick in it's mouth and using it as a lever?

Horses aren’t bred to kill! They are not carnivorous and do not have killer instincts. They constantly live in flight mode not fight mode and if they kill someone it’s not because they just randomly decided to turn and attack someone, it’s usually because they got spooked!

While I agree with the gist of what you are saying, it has to be said that some horses are absolute bastards. You can’t turn your back on them. Obviously not life threatening but I have had some extremely painful unprovoked bites. I have never been bitten by a dog.

Spot on.

see linked video on here I posted Detroit mailman.

Thank you!

Very good to know!

I don't agree with an "approved breed list" as I predict people would be even less risk aware than they are now simply because the dogs on the list would be "great with kids" etc. I can imagine these owners letting their kids cuddle and crawl all over the dogs thinking they're bomb-proof.

I follow a dog groomer on YouTube who does complementary grooms for difficult dogs and she said she has more trouble with Golden Retrievers than any other breed. Her theory is that people get them due to their great reputation but then because of that they don't put the work in to socialise and train properly. I mean, why would you need to do any of that because goldies are guaranteed to be great, right 😉

Caveat: I'm not likening GRs to XL bullies BTW. Totally different kettle of fish.

@Toastandbutterand you straddle the dog, hold it's collar, insert behind their back teeth ( their mouth is open) and turn it. It looks a bit like a large flat knife.