"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

An uterly atrocious & preventable tragedy. How can people put their families life in danger every day of their lives when it's a well known fact this type of dog can turn on owners regardless of how loving they appear to be. It's like falling in love with a murderous psychopath & defending them to the hilt. A cull & ban is the only way forward. At the very least jail time for owners who walk them without a muzzle.

In someways this is the downside of the current laws

People who are responsible can't rehome them. The obly options are keep them or kill them so In situations where they are dubious of the dogs suitability they end up keeping them. I often wonder if some of the attacks have come after people felt forced to keep the dog even though they know it's not suitable

In someways it also forces people to do things like illegally rehome, people willing to take on an illegally transferred dog are unlikely to be a safe home.

I don't know what the answer is

It’s so depressingly familiar and often innocent victims die rather than the owners.
Let’s hope for a cull.
You can’t persuade stupid people to stop owning/breeding these things, they’ll just think there’s a conspiracy of some kind

TBF there are no details released as yet just a report of 'mauling'. A dog that size only needs to bite a 10 yr old once, in the wrong place, to cause a death

Cats maul, dogs bite.

I feel so sorry for the poor little girl. What a horrific way to die.

I don’t feel at all sorry for the family I’m afraid.

Would pepper spray work or would that make an attack worse? People just don't know what to do

I don't look at that site as I find it too upsetting.
I'm not saying it would be an overnight fix.
Proper funding and powers for dog wardens and charities. More dog wardens. Reporting channels, as it upsets so many people I'm sure loads of people would happily report neighbours anonymously.
Penalities if social media firms don't take action.
Charity commission to clamp down on charities that exist just to ship dogs into the UK from other countries.
I expect the vast majority of responsible dog owners and breeders would happily comply, I know I would. Proper penalties would put off another subset who do it because they can get away with it right now. So that leaves the criminal element and they will only continue if it is profitable and there's a lot of ways to ensure it isn't.
It would take time but it would definitely be effective.

Oh how horrible, there was one at the vet at my dogs last appointment.
Great ugly brute , owner looked thuggish , thank god it was muzzled!
My dog is a smallish terrier I was very glad that dog wasn’t near us !

Awful. I'd support a cull and also more generally a licensing system for all dogs.

DeeDee - You are so right with people thinking they are the dog whisperer.
People who have XL Bullies and similar seem especially prone to this delusional belief , and spout “Nanny Dog “nonsense that is complete myth.

These dogs are hardwired to snap out of the blue.

ANY dog can be unreliable but XL Bullies and similarly especially so .

I’d not trust any dog around small children.

Mia Derouen ( age 4) was slaughtered by her mother’s boyfriends XL pitbull - Police said it took 11 rounds to make it release her body.

The XL pitbull so say was “her pet” before it killed her.

Her mother said it flipped out of the blue.

Struggling here - very avoidable and sounds like dog was illegally rehomed. Absolute stupidity and agree the parent should be charged with manslaughter.

It's either massive naivety or arrogance on the parents part.

I train working dogs in personal protection and for security work, they are not pets. The amount of XL and cane corso owners who rock up, ( usually being dragged behind their dog) and want their dog trained in bite work with zero obedience training on place is shocking. 9/10 they are not experienced enough to own the breeds, the dogs reactive to other dogs and it's not socialized or exercised properly. Most of them do get off on scaring people with their dog.

Oh no, not another one 😢

The absolute unbelievable agony that child will have suffered.

There needs to be a compulsory round up and cull. NOW!!

17 deaths? Even after the ban? My god, I had no idea it was that many.

No- Pepper spray is useless
( according to people who have used it)
There are numerous videos online that show several gunshots are the only effective way to make it release.

Some say choking the dog out can help but good luck with THAT.

If it has a very strong collar on one can lift it up or twist it to cut off airway in an emergency-

A Mumsnet user had her lovely dog killed by one

Her husband is a strong rugby player large animal veterinary surgeon and he was physically powerless.

These things are like hippos 🦛 and incredibly strong, which appeals to their weak owners.

Apologies, it was 16 in the first 9 months of 2023, I'll try to find the 2024 figures

Same old story.

As soon as these animals reach the age of sexual maturity, its like a time bomb waiting to go off. Like other animals can seem loving and cute until a certain age, when they usually proceed to rip your face off (monkeys, tigers etc).

It's not their fault, they already had the intense prey drive from the original breeds, but now they have been bred into monstrosities.

If the government are too squeamish to do the necessary cull, then at the very least social services have to be involved in any home where the adults are thick enough to have one of this breed around their children.

It appears to be six deaths this year which although not as bad, is still pretty horrific to me

Most attacks and deaths are done by XL bullies.

There's a house that backs onto the industrial unit where i work. They've got 4 XL bullies - Mum and 3 pups that they weren't able to shift. They're outdoors in all weather and overnight without shelter, never walked, thrown scraps instead of being fed properly, screamed at 24/7 and they have 2 small children under 6 that are out there playing on swings. I've reported to the RSPCA, the Police and the Council that owns the house as well as Social Services.. 4 months later, they're still there. We have emergency access down a path alongside the garden but we've had to block it off for safety of the staff.

How many of these dogs are reported and ignored?

Why haven’t you reported him, before a tragedy happens?

I have just seen a video of that Irish lady and her dogs that killed her. Jeez.

I've read citronella spray is effective. 🤔

I’m not a dog trainer ( apart from training my own pet Sighthounds in manners like not pulling, waiting &c)
But I have seen so many weedy men dragged around by their large dog, the dog clearly isn’t listening to them and they are powerless.

Powits and any others seeing unmuzzled xl bullies..can you phone 101 and report. If people keep doing it perhaps the police will be more active in stopping it.