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"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

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RichTea90 · 05/11/2024 21:55

Astrabees · 05/11/2024 21:49

@RichTea90 The Staffordshire Bull terrier is very good with people and children, easy to train, highly intelligent, a natural clown, healthy on the whole and in my experience very respectful. I’m sure there are many on MN who have had the pleasure of the Staffie smile and a face wash! The only dog we have owned as a family that bit us at all was a Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen.

Yet they have the propensity to kill and engage in “lockjaw”
I don’t care what you say…. You can tell me they are loving, “cute,” loyal, whatever…. They CAN kill someone. Any animal linked with many deaths and injuries is NOT a pet.

ClickClickety · 05/11/2024 22:01

The puppies bought 2-3 years ago have now reached full strength. Sadly we can expect many more maulings.

Victoriancat · 05/11/2024 22:06

TallulahBetty · 05/11/2024 09:59

They're not even cute as heck. They are ugly, inside and out.

...okay? I'm on your side woman 😂

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/11/2024 22:08

I think that anyone who keeps one of these dogs in a house with children is taking a risk that a parent shouldn't be willing to take.

Firstimpressions · 05/11/2024 22:12

Nobody has answered whether a kitchen blow torch used in creme brulee would stop an attack to kill 🤔I'm asking this after a poster said absolutely nothing would stop the attack once the jaws have locked apart from choking. The muzzle rule to prevent an attack is all it would take to stop people worrying about their children when out & about.

pinkstripeycat · 05/11/2024 22:17

eastegg · 05/11/2024 21:23

Completely agree. Surely this latest awful case is all the proof needed that there is no such thing as responsible, safe bully ownership. It was the poor child’s loving companion apparently! They love kids right up until the moment they maul them to death.

A forgotten group I feel sorry for as well are the emergency responders. Imagine being first on the scene in a case like this or Ian Price. It makes me boil with anger that anyone is put through that for absolutely no reason.

The police officers that went to the attack on 10yr old Jack Lis are on video saying how traumatic it was to try and help the little lad

BoudiccasBangles · 05/11/2024 22:21

I just can’t believe there are still people defending them. It’s beyond my comprehension. I’ve just been reading BullyWatch’s website. The number of non-fatal attacks that go unreported in national news is terrifying. I’ll be crossing the road from now on if I see one.

Littletreefrog · 05/11/2024 22:23

Firstimpressions · 05/11/2024 22:12

Nobody has answered whether a kitchen blow torch used in creme brulee would stop an attack to kill 🤔I'm asking this after a poster said absolutely nothing would stop the attack once the jaws have locked apart from choking. The muzzle rule to prevent an attack is all it would take to stop people worrying about their children when out & about.

Well I doubt anyone can answer such a specific question as no one has probably ever tried to brulee an XL bully before.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 05/11/2024 22:26

Last week, I saw a young woman going down the road, walking what was presumably an extremely large staffy (as it wasn't muzzled). Hmm Well, I say she was walking it; the dog was actually walking her. It was straining sideways at the lead and it was visibly taking all her strength to keep it on the pavement with her, out of the road. When she took a left turn down another street, away from the direction in which the dog wanted to go, I thought it was going to break free entirely!

If that dog ever goes for another dog or a person, she won't be able to pull it back.

Clafoutie · 05/11/2024 22:35

Astrabees · 05/11/2024 21:49

@RichTea90 The Staffordshire Bull terrier is very good with people and children, easy to train, highly intelligent, a natural clown, healthy on the whole and in my experience very respectful. I’m sure there are many on MN who have had the pleasure of the Staffie smile and a face wash! The only dog we have owned as a family that bit us at all was a Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen.

But, as others have already pointed out over and over, every owner of a dangerous breed of dog says the same - that their dog is not like that, is so gentle, etc. This is dangerously flawed thinking since, as others have said, the dog is fine until it suddenly, unpredictably isn’t. Nobody needs to have these breeds, nobody will die by not having one, so why on earth do people take the risk? Since people are blind to this, the only solution is surely an outright ban, no exemptions. The fact that the owners in this horrific case already had an exemption certificate tells us, surely, that this is simply too far of a risk to take.

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:45

Imagine this hell beast coming at you. We would have zero chance. They HAVE to be culled. May as well have tigers roaming around.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-malton-girl-10-mauled-34041507

eastegg · 05/11/2024 22:46

Simonlebonbon · 05/11/2024 21:34

I read about this earlier, so sad. But I'm more angry with the owners than I can express. Why the fuck are people getting these monster dogs who keep killing people, including adult men, around their precious children? Wtf.
I know people who own these bloody dogs and they're forever are banging on about how they're lovely and gentle. Going on about it being a xl bully holocaust if we have a cull. Just fuck off.
They're literally tearing people to death, wtf is wrong with people.
This girls family are said to be shocked the dog did this and I'm livid, how are you fucking shocked? There is so many dead children because of this breed and you're "shocked", would you have let Fred fucking west babysit and been shocked your poor girl was discovered under his patio?
I also read the dog was unmuzzled when out, that dog could have killed more than one child because of the owners selfishness and stupidity.
Do I feel devastated for a family that have lost their beautiful daughter? Of course.
But am I enraged they put her in the position? Yes.

Are they using the word holocaust? That is a despicable use of language if so. They’re really lovely people aren’t they.

Anothernamechane · 05/11/2024 22:47

It does seem that this family had the dog for 4 years, had the relevant paperwork and the dog was neutered. So they had the dog before the first UK death and it was apparently a well behaved dog prior to this attack. I wonder if the move to the caravan has been the trigger?

To me though this just demonstrates that these dogs aren't in any way suitable to be pets. It appears you can do everything correctly and a previously loving pet can maul you to death for no apparent reason.

I do think anyone who gets ANY large dog, including Cane Corsos, Japanese Akita and Mastiff type dogs with young children in the house are totally irresponsible

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:50

Firstimpressions · 05/11/2024 22:12

Nobody has answered whether a kitchen blow torch used in creme brulee would stop an attack to kill 🤔I'm asking this after a poster said absolutely nothing would stop the attack once the jaws have locked apart from choking. The muzzle rule to prevent an attack is all it would take to stop people worrying about their children when out & about.

I follow these cases a lot (there are hundreds, weekly, in the US, because they are obviously more populated, but also still have pitbulls), and reports are that these dogs THRIVE on pain - they were bred to fight to the death, and are nigh on impossible to stop. I have seen videos of them being shot, bashed with wooden bats, kicked by horses into the air and they still come back for more. I would not fancy my chances with anything other than a rifle, from a distance, loaded with hundreds of bullets.

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:50

Anothernamechane · 05/11/2024 22:47

It does seem that this family had the dog for 4 years, had the relevant paperwork and the dog was neutered. So they had the dog before the first UK death and it was apparently a well behaved dog prior to this attack. I wonder if the move to the caravan has been the trigger?

To me though this just demonstrates that these dogs aren't in any way suitable to be pets. It appears you can do everything correctly and a previously loving pet can maul you to death for no apparent reason.

I do think anyone who gets ANY large dog, including Cane Corsos, Japanese Akita and Mastiff type dogs with young children in the house are totally irresponsible

They don't need a trigger. Sometimes they just snap. It is in their genes.

Simonlebonbon · 05/11/2024 22:51

eastegg · 05/11/2024 22:46

Are they using the word holocaust? That is a despicable use of language if so. They’re really lovely people aren’t they.

Yes! Completely despicable.

I will say the people who I'm friends with who post this kind of nonsense aren't very bright, they're not friends as such, more people I have on social media because we went to the same school. I really should get rid of them but it's always awkward bumping into them and as soon as you unfriend someone on Facebook etc it's almost guaranteed you'll bump into them every bloody time you go to the shops.

cadburyegg · 05/11/2024 22:52

Anothernamechane · 05/11/2024 22:47

It does seem that this family had the dog for 4 years, had the relevant paperwork and the dog was neutered. So they had the dog before the first UK death and it was apparently a well behaved dog prior to this attack. I wonder if the move to the caravan has been the trigger?

To me though this just demonstrates that these dogs aren't in any way suitable to be pets. It appears you can do everything correctly and a previously loving pet can maul you to death for no apparent reason.

I do think anyone who gets ANY large dog, including Cane Corsos, Japanese Akita and Mastiff type dogs with young children in the house are totally irresponsible

I agree with you. The fact that the dog had never displayed any aggressive behaviour before this just proves that they can turn at any point and aren't suitable as pets. I'd support a cull.

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:58

Astrabees · 05/11/2024 21:49

@RichTea90 The Staffordshire Bull terrier is very good with people and children, easy to train, highly intelligent, a natural clown, healthy on the whole and in my experience very respectful. I’m sure there are many on MN who have had the pleasure of the Staffie smile and a face wash! The only dog we have owned as a family that bit us at all was a Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen.

Staffordshire PITBULL Terriers are just small pitbulls, bred for violence. They are prone to aggression and high up on the list of dogs most likely to attack.

"Staffordshire Bull Terriers commit 43% of U.K. attacks" yet are about 5% of the dog population. And these are just the attacks that get reported.

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2023-09-27/moment-mum-fights-off-staffy-to-protect-toddler

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/boy-five-attacked-staffordshire-bull-terrier-b2434560.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czvv0g5gjx5o

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2024/02/09/staffy-tore-a-chunk-out-of-12-year-old-shrewsbury-schoolboys-leg-causing-very-horrific-injury/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pensioner-attacked-two-staffordshire-bull-32148131

https://www.doglistener.co.uk/staffie-cross-attacks-11-children/

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/staffys-bloody-rampage-in-wakefield-left-woman-with-three-dog-teeth-embedded-in-her-wounds-4594558

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/dog-attack-halifax-mum-of-six-in-court-after-her-staffy-cross-dog-attacks-woman-leaving-her-with-deep-neck-wound-and-unconscious-4564497

I could go on!

Boy, 5, seriously injured after being attacked ‘by Staffordshire Bull Terrier’

Dog has been seized by police to ‘protect the public’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/boy-five-attacked-staffordshire-bull-terrier-b2434560.html

Likaom · 05/11/2024 23:02

I have the most chilled out, totally “out of character” springer spaniel. My kids have grown up with him and he’s 3. Once or twice my 9year old invaded his space with too much love and cuddles and he’’d softly growl but she knows that’s his way to communicate and quickly stepped away. If he EVER bit anyone, as much as I love him, that’s the end of him. He’s amazingly obedient, but now and then he gets a scent of a bird and runs off. He always comes back soon and looks very contrite and sorry, BUT it’s bred into him! He can’t help his genes and instinct! I would never have a dog that I didn’t feel I could over power if I needed to and every dog has it’s purpose (they thrive for their jobs) Don’t get a herding or gun dog breed if you live in a small house or flat with no free, open walking space. Don’t get a fighting dog if it can’t release its unnaturally inbred desire to kill.

Firstimpressions · 05/11/2024 23:14

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:50

I follow these cases a lot (there are hundreds, weekly, in the US, because they are obviously more populated, but also still have pitbulls), and reports are that these dogs THRIVE on pain - they were bred to fight to the death, and are nigh on impossible to stop. I have seen videos of them being shot, bashed with wooden bats, kicked by horses into the air and they still come back for more. I would not fancy my chances with anything other than a rifle, from a distance, loaded with hundreds of bullets.

Interesting & makes the whole issue more understandable. It sounds like the often very sudden change from being a loving pet into a vicious killer is unfortunately part of their genetic traits. How scary. You learn everyday.Thank you for your explanation.

User19876536484 · 05/11/2024 23:21

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 22:45

Imagine this hell beast coming at you. We would have zero chance. They HAVE to be culled. May as well have tigers roaming around.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-malton-girl-10-mauled-34041507

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But tigers are lovely.

"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death
ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 23:25

Firstimpressions · 05/11/2024 23:14

Interesting & makes the whole issue more understandable. It sounds like the often very sudden change from being a loving pet into a vicious killer is unfortunately part of their genetic traits. How scary. You learn everyday.Thank you for your explanation.

You're welcome. I consider it my duty to spread the word about these beasts, until enough people force change and get them banned.

If they were always aggressive, people wouldn't get them (apart from the criminals). It is because they can be soft and soppy that makes them so dangerous as family pets.

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 23:26

User19876536484 · 05/11/2024 23:21

But tigers are lovely.

They are! And they are beautiful. I'd rather be mauled to death by that majestic creature, than the hellish thug mutant bully dog.
Hopefully neither, obvs.

Likaom · 05/11/2024 23:30

Who knows the triggers? People just aren’t equipped to keep dogs these days. A big dog like that needs lots of physical and mental training, a caravan in a park with all the neighbouring noises would be too much. These poor people have lost their beautiful child by thinking “my xxl is different” you can’t train years of selective breeding out of a breed. Trained to kill. When will people see the light and admit that dogs aren’t a fashion accessory or that it makes you look hard to have a miserable muscle dog on a lead? Bring back mongrels and dog licences with happy families!

Pussycat22 · 05/11/2024 23:37

Cos they're thick!!!!

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