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"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

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Pussycat22 · 05/11/2024 23:44

you4me, euthanise the owners as well!!!

AmateurDad · 05/11/2024 23:50

So, police

AmateurDad · 05/11/2024 23:51

powotsits · 04/11/2024 15:52

There is an idiot near us who walks one off lead without a muzzle round the little residential streets near us – always full of children out playing

So, police

AmateurDad · 06/11/2024 00:00

Probsnot · 04/11/2024 16:39

They aren't worried about being charged because they don't think their dog would hurt anyone.

The reality is that there are lots of dog laws that are openly disobeyed with little action because there is a lack of will to enforce it.

For example dogs are routinely sold with cropped ears, found without microchips, puppies openly sold without the mum present, dogs off lead where they shouldn't be

These things have been illegal for years but no one cares really. How often do you see people smoking weed openly in the street, or openly drug dealing? There's a huge chunk of society that lives outside of law enforcement

Most people insure their cars because it flags up on cameras, there's no such thing with dogs

As a responsible owner, my dog is pretty traceable. There's kc registration with parents or her adoption records, her microchip, vet records, vaccine records, insurance, local trainers and dog groups that know us. We are frequently walking in dog areas where should there be for example some mass checking of microchips by airport style security we would be found. My dog exists on the " system"in some way

This dog was illegally rehomed at least. Neigbours report theyve not seen it walked. There's likely no record of its birth, it's possibly not microchipped or having appropriate vet care.

It likely doesn't exist in a paper work way

"Most people insure their cars because it flags up on cameras"

What does this mean?

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 00:01

And yet ANOTHER XL Bully attack on a child.

A YOUNG girl has been rushed to hospital with serious injuries after being attacked by an XL Bully in Evesham yesterday (Monday, November 4).
The seven-year-old girl remains in a stable condition at Birmingham Children’s Hospital after being attacked inside a house on Laxton Crescent, Evesham around 1pm.
After the attack, West Mercia Police arrived on scene and seized three dogs at the address. Police have confirmed the dog who bit the girl – a registered XL Bully – has since been put down.
Superintendent Gareth Morgan said: “Sadly, a girl has suffered serious injuries after she was bitten by a dog inside a house in Evesham.
“The other dogs, neither of which are XL Bully’s, remain in our care while our enquiries continue.”
In response to the incident, West Mercia Police and both West Midlands Ambulance Service and a Midlands Air Ambulance from Strensham arrived on scene.

AmateurDad · 06/11/2024 00:04

doodleschnoodle · 04/11/2024 17:04

I'm a dog lover but there is absolutely no reason for these dogs to be in any domestic homes or for anyone to own one. There are plenty of family friendly dog breeds out there. There's a brute of one in a nearby town laughingly called 'Baby', snarling and barking whenever anyone walks past.

How does it bark with a muzzle on? 🤔

IsItFinallySeptemberYet · 06/11/2024 00:05

I think people are stupid to have ANY type/breed of dog around kids (never mind these monsters). They’re animals, we don’t know what they’re thinking or what they might do at any given moment. Totally irresponsible.
I think the parents of this poor girl should be jailed.

McSilkson · 06/11/2024 00:32

ScrambIed · 05/11/2024 23:25

You're welcome. I consider it my duty to spread the word about these beasts, until enough people force change and get them banned.

If they were always aggressive, people wouldn't get them (apart from the criminals). It is because they can be soft and soppy that makes them so dangerous as family pets.

It is because they can be soft and soppy that makes them so dangerous

Not unlike abusive men...

And for that matter, how many times has there been a massacre or serial killing and then all the neighbours of the perpetrator, local shopkeepers, etc., say, "He seemed like a nice, normal guy. A bit quiet, maybe."

Or what about that prize moron, "Grizzly Man", who ended up being eaten alive by one of the bears he delusionally believed he had bonded with.

People are notoriously poor judges of the risks posed by both men and beasts.

Lokielo · 06/11/2024 06:49

So this dog was registered and had been with the family for four years. The law doesn’t prevent deaths. Let’s hope the coroner issues a prevention of deaths report to the government and that starts an urgent review.

BabeRuthless · 06/11/2024 07:29

AmateurDad · 06/11/2024 00:00

"Most people insure their cars because it flags up on cameras"

What does this mean?

ANPR cameras. The police use them & they can run the licence plate & tell if the car has insurance etc

Cosmo676 · 06/11/2024 07:43

ticktickticktickBOOM · 05/11/2024 21:47

This XL bully situation is quickly becoming a very serious child protection issue.

When are the gov/social services going to step in and protect the UK's children???

I agree something needs to change and these dogs are definitely high risk to children, but not sure what SS are meant to do. Social Workers can only act within a legal framework.

Probsnot · 06/11/2024 07:58

BabeRuthless · 06/11/2024 07:29

ANPR cameras. The police use them & they can run the licence plate & tell if the car has insurance etc

Exactly this.
Checking a car has some form of insurance, mot, tax etc can be done remotely. In order to use the car then it has to appear in public roads where you have no idea where cameras might be (either static or with police traps)

Insurance is a bad example to be honest because anprs typically can't check that.

My general gist was most people even people using their car for drug running, end up taxing and mot ING it because it's something you're likely to get caught with.

A car tends to come with a massive paper trail and be registered in someone's name, exist in data bases as linked to that person with visable registration

A dog can be created in a spare room, and never be registered anywhere. Even if there was some form of microchip scanner in every single lamp post because of public outrage(how would it pick up dogs with zero chip?), they will be walked in fields etc

Simonlebonbon · 06/11/2024 08:18

I think it being a safeguarding issue for children is an excellent idea theoretically it's just SS can barely cope with human monsters owning children without getting involved with idiots choosing killing machines as family pets.

Say you bought a XLB puppy prior to the knowledge of what they'd become and allowed it around your child to have the child mauled, then that is devastating.

But if you buy one knowing their potential to kill your child, which at this point we all know is possible, then you're either really fucking stupid or highly negligent to your child.

If you allowed someone with a history of child abuse, even a child killer around your kids because you personally felt your child wasn't a risk because you knew better than everyone else, then you'd rightly have your child removed to the care of an adult who could protect your child from unnecessary and almost inevitable harm.
To me the scenarios may differ but the risk remains the same.
Children, all our children if these fuckers are walking out in public or escaping back gardens, are at risk.
It's time for a cull.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 06/11/2024 08:29

IsItFinallySeptemberYet · 06/11/2024 00:05

I think people are stupid to have ANY type/breed of dog around kids (never mind these monsters). They’re animals, we don’t know what they’re thinking or what they might do at any given moment. Totally irresponsible.
I think the parents of this poor girl should be jailed.

A couple of years ago, a man in Baton Rouge, was jailed for homicide because his dog killed a little girl.

tallbirduk · 06/11/2024 08:38

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Alltheyearround · 06/11/2024 12:42

SerafinasGoose · 05/11/2024 20:05

I'd have been at the other end of the train - if there were any more coaches in that direction, that is. As for going through that door with that thing on the other side, forget it.

I won't catch the eye of one of these maniacs as they can interpret that as threatening. That door is far too insubstantial a partition for my liking.

I was on the beach when one of these things came by, turned its head and growled at me. One of those ferocious growls with fangs dripping saliva. I practically needed clean underwear.

They put the fear of God into me.

Same. I was crossing the road same time as one with a skinny ineffectual owner. I glanced at it, it stood stock still and gave me what I can only describe as a death stare. This was before the ban, no muzzle. Guy walked it straight into a half term packed park full of screaming kids running around. No way he could have controlled it if it had decided to attack.

Stuff of nightmares. Friend got one a few years ago and sad to say I won't be visiting hers any time soon (she lives a couple for hours away not round the corner). She has 2 primary school age boys. I was gobsmacked when I saw the photos on FB. Before anyone assumes a sterotype (though I know what the usual owners look like) she's a very intelligent woman with a law degree.

Roxy69 · 06/11/2024 13:05

Errors · 04/11/2024 15:50

And I wouldn’t trust any dog owner who is stupid enough to have one of these to keep the general public safe from them. They give me the creeps just looking at them

I agree, they are really asking for trouble. The dogs are bred to fight and seem unpredictable.

ZoeCM · 06/11/2024 14:36

eastegg · 05/11/2024 20:42

Oh we’ve got a few. I can hardly believe I’m living like this really. Do you remember when the panic about paedophiles was at its height and people talked about them being on every corner. I don’t worry about them, but these monsters who are actually, definitely on my local streets.

My eldest are too old to be walked to school, or anywhere really, and it’s weird that I worry about them much more than ever before, entirely because of these dogs.

To be frank, there is a paedophile on every corner. The reason Huw Edwards was given a suspended sentence is that there are too many of these men to fit in prison. It's ironic that the media was sneering at "hysteria" over paedophiles in the 00s when, all along, Jimmy Savile's behaviour was an open secret in the industry.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 06/11/2024 14:53

I wish every house that houses an XL type dog had a sign on the front door/gate by law.

I'm so worried my child will inadvertently wander into a mates house after footy in the park and come face to face with one.

Babycatsarenice · 06/11/2024 16:49

We've just seen one at the park off lead and turned around and went home seemed like everyone with a pram was doing the same. It's not fair at all

Babycatsarenice · 06/11/2024 16:55

Do you think we can do some kind of petition or activism about this.

SerafinasGoose · 06/11/2024 17:02

Babycatsarenice · 06/11/2024 16:49

We've just seen one at the park off lead and turned around and went home seemed like everyone with a pram was doing the same. It's not fair at all

It's certainly not. Wholly unreasonable that the public is having access to facilities restricted even further to accommodate these liabilities when recreational areas are at a premium as it is. Now parents are having to limit their children's social interactions to accommodate people's desire to own these mutts. Thankfully the message is getting through as to the danger they present, but that will be of no comfort in the event one of them does flip.

If it wasn't leashed and muzzled its owner was breaking the law. They do so with impunity because they know the police are not interested (even so, I'd still report it).

About an hour ago I was coming out of a healthcare centre with DS. It's in a part of our nearest city that I normally avoid because it doesn't feel very safe. There were three - how do I put this? - very stereotypical-looking owners grappling with one of these huge, muscular monsters right outside the entrance door. They could barely control it. I was almost at the door before I saw it and I immediately swung DS round the other way and took him out of the opposite exit.

We'd have had to pass within inches, let alone feet of the creature, as its keepers were hanging out right on top of the entrance. No way am I having those things near my child if I can help it.

I avoid them as I'd avoid someone walking a leashed tiger.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 06/11/2024 19:00

Coincidentally @SerafinasGoose, I too was in the dr's waiting room at 4.30pm whilst two big muscular dogs wrenched on their owners leads outside the window to get to each other. Neither muzzled.
I was glad I was indoors.

I feel like this problem is out of hand and only going to get worse as these dogs get bigger and more bored.

Errors · 06/11/2024 19:11

All these stories from you all about having to watch where you go and change your routes and leave parks because of these dogs are giving me the rage. It’s really not on.
Luckily, I haven’t seen any in my local area but I feel like it won’t be long before I do. The ban seems to have made them even more desirable!

BoudiccasBangles · 06/11/2024 19:39

Babycatsarenice · 06/11/2024 16:55

Do you think we can do some kind of petition or activism about this.

BullyWatch are very good.