"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

there is no hysteria

its absolutely shocking and horrifying to read that a child or an adult has been attacked and mauled to death by a dog regardless the breed

but the breeds that are being reported on again and again for these absolutely shocking and horrifying attacks that end in death are just a few breeds and the xl bullies is one of these breeds

Anyone that's been bitten by a dog, even once, knows how painful it is and that's an ordinary, perhaps even accidental if you're trying to split up two dogs for example.

The unbelievable drawn out agony that Ian Price ensured is akin to medieval torture. No one deserves that and it makes me feel ill to think about it, as it should all of us.

These dogs are lethal weapons and like guns, you should need a licence (and a man good reason) to own one. They are NOT pets much like guns are not toys.

No intelligent person would want to own one as a pet. They should be nowhere near the public or other animals.

Most people want them culled. The only people that don't are wrong in the head. These type of dogs were banned over 30 years ago for good reason so there shouldn't be a need to cull them but because of the shitty scummy people that bred the bastards, they do. We need the gov to play hardball and get rid. For good.

No one should be afraid to take their child to the park or walk their little dog down the street.

It seems the rights of XL bully/pit owners seem to be trumping the rights of everyone else.

Grab the collar and shove a sharp branch up the arse, hard, fast and deep. According to an old rescue fellow, it should shock them enough to let go even for just a moment so the victim can get away. We are not allowed to carry weapons in this country, but there’s nothing wrong with carrying a branch. As a last resort I’d be doing it to save a human..

"Looking at you like this." Like it wants to kill and eat you, you mean.

That's a usual dog.

If an xl bully even notices enough to turn around when you do that, it's going to rip your throat out.

I doubt it would though. Once they get going they are 100% locked on to their 'prey'. Only death or near death will work.

Remember that Monty Python holy grail movie with the black knight? Not as funny in real life.

I think it would take considerable sang froid to sexually assault a dog mid attack.

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I very much doubt that would even stop it.

The last one I dealt with was tazered multiple times and didn’t give a single fuck. Not one.

Sexually assault? What the fuck? I’m talking about trying to get a dog off killing a child.

Yeah you may be right, but when you’re in a park, walking down a lane, street or whatever. You can’t beat them off, multiple grown men cannot, but there will hopefully be branches about.. it may work, it may not. The dog may turn on you, or may not, but if it’s savaging your child, it’s a risk I would take.

You misunderstand me.
I wasn't suggesting that doing that to a dog, in the heat of the moment, was a bad thing.

I'm just saying that it would take a fair amount of sang froid to actually do it.

I see, apologies. I took offence at the ‘Sexual’ remark. There is very little that can be done when these dogs attack, I just wanted to give an option if there was nothing else.

No probs, my friend.

My last thought on this. If absolutely nothing would stop an attack apart from choking does this mean it would tolerate being set on fire by a blow torch during a frenzied attack on a child? That seems unbelievable but I accept I know nothing about them. I wouldn't care if all dogs classified as dangerous were muzzled but it appears a lot of owners ignore this rule when it's so simple. Why?

All these people who keep saying they know sweet darling XL bullies honestly make me think back to the OP who's dog (can't remember the breed, doesn't really matter) suddenly became highly aggressive and had attacked. It turned out that dog had a brain tumor and did need to be euthanised.

XL bullies aren't exempt from injury or illness that will radically change their behaviour, all dogs die of something. Before many of them die they have a period of illness.

The people who think under no circumstances would their XL bully attack must also think their XL bullies are invincible too.

The difference between someone's shih tzu or labrador and the XL bullies is that the XL bully has the psi in its bite to cause catastrophic damage.

Why would any one who considers themselves a responsible dog owner, putting their dogs health and safety first, and considering the safety of people around them not also consider this fact, that this could be their dog in the situation of being ill, and being so uncomfortable that they lash out with grievous or fatal consequences.

After having nightmares about this last night, I've just gone downstairs to the loos in a very busy London train station and there was a teenage boy (guessing 15yo) with a grey XL bully, unmuzzled, on a short lead waiting outside - little kids and loads of commuters back and forth. Wtaf?!

Report whenever you see one unmuzzled. Did anyone manage to find a petition? I can't see one but there must be surely!

Well it’s just not really all that relevant since horses and cows don’t roam the streets and parks of the UK and people aren’t forced to have encounters with them.

People who are injured by horses and cows will be those who have actively chosen to accept that risk – either by crossing a field of cows, mucking out horses or working as a farmer or rider.

Horses – for example – are also massive animals who often injure people caring for them without any intent. For instance by accidentally kicking or falling on them.

It’s just not a very useful comparison.

Don’t be silly, just the other day I was walking down the street with my children and a cow came crashing through my neighbours door, jumped the gate and latched on to my child with its teeth.

Why o why o why do people keep having these dogs with children? I’ll never understand it

Parents should be charged for manslaughter and neglect- the fact this was able to happen is proof enough.

Waiting for someone to pop in with "it's not the dog, it's the owner". The most horrible owner won't make a killer out of a chihuahua

Jesus. 11 rounds of bullets?

Guess a can of hairspray isn't going to cut it.

What's happening here? A disagreement resolved amicably with no long winded slagging off to derail the thread? This is not the Mumsnet I have come to expect.

In the UK, there are on average 9000 dog-attack victims admitted to hospital every year. The breed is not usually recorded however given that XL Bullies are responsible for over 70% of all fatal dog attacks, I think it's fair to extrapolate that they are also responsible for a significant proportion of those 9000.

Agree I think it's partly both.
I imagine other breeds of dogs could be dangerous or aggressive if mistreated, neglected (by this I mean not given adequate exercise, stimulation, suitable environment etc rather than starving) abused by their owners, or even trained to be defensive/aggressive. However depending on size they might be easier to apprehend or overpower.

And some dogs of a certain temperament are likely to be calmer, and more obedient and compliant if treated well, given appropriate exercise, in the right environment and trained to be socialised.

But as pp hae said you can't out-train certain behaviours that are in-built into the breed. and the sheer size, jaw strength and muscle of them means that however conscientious someone was with training or exercising them, if they do attack they are extremely unlikely to be able to control or stop them.