"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

Given the current legislation the XL Bully type should be extinct in the next 10 years or so, they are large and will not be a long lived breed. If they were to be culled now the irresponsible owners would simply move to something else, say Cane Corso x Belgian Malinois and the whole cycle would start again. I think there is some merit in being alert to safeguarding referrals where children are living with banned breeds.
Defra say there are over 55,000 of the dogs registered so the risks associated with them. Cannot be said to apply without exception, especially as it is a type rather than a breed . My present dogs are a toy poodle and a toy poodle cross but I am a dog lover and this insulting abuse against ALL XL owners seems very wrong to me.

Not sweet then, is it!
And if you too have a large breed that is capable of mauling someone to death, perhaps you are indeed the problem.

And in those ten years, how many innocent humans will be mauled, to death or otherwise? I fail to comprehend how a dog is worth that risk. There are other breeds that don't carry risk of death or serious disfigurement. No one should be entitled to inflict their stupidity on the rest of us and risk our safety.

Exactly, this is the point

I have said this before but I think the government should pay owners in exchange for these dogs to be culled. Most owners seem on the lower income scale and £10,000 for example would be a huge sum to them. I think a lot of supposedly loving owners could be persuaded for cold hard cash. It would be money well spent.

Interesting idea @MintsPi and I agree there may need to be some sort of carrot involved however how do we stop something like that being exploited? Almost certainly people would obtain dogs with the soul intention of handing them over for cash.

I am sorry but I have no sympathy for XL owners.

Criticism is happening because now, people who dont even own these mutts are being harmed

All my sympathy lies with those killed by these beasts.

Useless breed that isn't even nice to look at.

Yes but how would you stop people breeding to get one for the cash?

Touched a nerve?

Cane Corso and Belgian Malinois types can get euthed too. I am for a short list of approved breeds, and that's it - let's do away with all this horrible new breeds that people are breeding to look menacing whilst doing their drug deals, and fix this problem, now. Not in ten years time. Many people will be dead due to dog attacks in that period, if the current death and mauling rate carries on, which it will.

They are illegal to breed now. So any new ones should be euthed immediately, and the breeders put in jail.

I'm a vegan! And I also own a staffie x pocket bully. I made the choice to go vegan myself. My dog cannot tell me if she would like to be vegan. Therefore, rather than force my beliefs onto her, I have made the ethical choice to feed her an omnivorous diet, as she is naturally an omnivore.

As a fellow vegan, I hope you realise that animals still die to produce our food, just at a lower rate than if we were meat-eaters.

And by calling XL bullies 'beasts' and 'Shitbulls', I question your empathy to animals.

And what of those animals you are sacrificing to the altar of your dog? Why is one dog's life more important than all those animals who will die to feed it during the course of its decade or so of living?
You can get plant-based dog food. You have not made an ethical choice, please don't delude yourself further.

Being vegan is about doing the least harm possible, within reason. That some animals may die whilst harvesting my spinach and chickpeas is the best I can hope for, compared to the definite deaths larger animals face feeding your dog.

@ScrambIed Do you take medicines by any chance?

I don't, and haven't in all the 30+ years I've been vegan, luckily, but if I needed to "where necessary", of course I would, and as I am getting older, I do expect that time to come, sooner or later. That's acceptable by the Vegan Society, and by me. We aren't expected to die for this cause!
I don't intend to derail this thread further on this topic, was merely replying to the dog bollocks "vegan" who was spouting shite.

Doubt it but could do with some is my guess.

Almost all attacks even well before the ban were inside homes or on private property.

I remember about 10 years ago a tiny girl (maybe 4 or 5) was attacked and killed by a dog while she lay in bed, because she was off school, ill. If she's lying in bed I doubt she was antagonising the dog or posing any sort of threat. Iirc the mother had got the dog from a rescue a few weeks before, and apprehended it by stabbing it (but too late to save the girl)
A few years ago a young boy (maybe 10 or 11) was attacked and killed in a caravan.
Even the latest fatality mentioned in this thread, is inside the home so potentially all the requirements regarding owning the XL dog might have been met, but it doesn't stop them having the nature to attack and kill.

And all that sentence does (for me) is demonstrate that it's 'not the dog, it's the owner', is bullshit.

Presumably, they were a regular family, with a dog as a pet, that they loved, etc
Never mind that the family dog was like having a smouldering Molotov cocktail in the house, of course.
But, I digress.

That's good, although the £10k cash idea could be good one, you just have to watch for underground behaviour which does the opposite of what you want

More people will do illegal things with a cash incentive of that size

I have a Great Dane. Not known for attacking people, but arguably his size and breed state he could.

I don’t know why people are getting so riled that I said I know a sweet XL bully. I agree that they need to be banned. I have nowhere said that I don’t think it’s capable of killing someone.
At this moment in time, he’s as sweet as the nice spaniel I know. He’s certainly as well behaved and gentle. Could he turn? Of course he could.
But I can see why some XL bully owners are so upset by the bad press, because in their minds, they might have a sweet dog that they don’t believe would harm anyone. But they might.

Anyway, I’m bowing out with my demon (daft as a brush) Great Dane. It’s a customer of mine who owns the XL bully. I shall continue to think he’s a sweet dog.

No, I just cannot cope with people who don’t read the context in which a comment is made.

Agree agree agree

My child walks through a park on the way to school and I'm increasingly worried about the dogs they may encounter.

Well the law would have to be that the £x would only be for XLs over x years old, and any puppies will be taken and no reimbursement offered. There should not be any more being born now, as the current ones should all be neutered.

I think they'll all go for it for £5k! And we'd save the NHS millions in reconstructive surgery if we just do away with the bully breeds immediately.

Many moons ago, my cousin had a Staffie, and it got into a scrap with another dog.
She completely freaked out and didn't know what to do, so phoned her husband asking what she should do.

His advice was to get the broom, put it down the back of the dog's collar, and slowly twist it until he let go.
It did work.

I'm not sure I'd have the mental strength to do that to a Staffie, let alone a bloody XL bully.

A man in Baton Rouge was charged with negligent homicide after his pitbull/XL bully killed a 7 year old girl.