"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

I don't care one little bit about the trauma of people having dangerous breeds euthanised, when you compare it to the trauma of losing your child to a mauling by such beasts. It's a tiny price to pay. There are other breeds of dog that are far safer. They can replace their dog with one of those. You can't replace a child.

I am anti-gun, but I can understand having one in the US, to help save me from all the pitbulls.

That’s so awful :(

Arsehole 😡

@TheDogsBalls In your vain attempt to prove your intelligence, you've succeeded in letting us know that you're actually very hard of thinking. You clearly have no idea how dogs work, and I sincerely hope your killing machine is culled before it can cause irreparable damage.

As most fields in rural areas aren't 'XLBully type' proof having it unmuzzled is highly negligent @TheDogsBalls

The XL Bully that went for my dogs crashed through a fence at the side of a gate that holds steers safely.
Agricultural fencing/walls/hedgerows are not dog proof. They are designed to keep enclosed sheep, horses or cattle, not dogs.

Actual ''Dog secure fields'' have strong weld mesh barriers to a great height and are no larger than an acre paddock in my experience.

@TheDogsBalls , have you seen the footage of Nicole Morey being mauled to death by her bully? Her arm was ripped right off, and then she died.

I haven't watched the Ian Price death by bully out of respect for him, as a non-owner, he did not deserve what happened to him. I suggest you do though, along with your engineer husband, and I hope you both reconsider your choices.

@TheDogsBalls I have every sympathy with your point of view. We had 3 Staffordshire Bull terriers from rescue, none of them pedigree and various sizes. The last had a similar genetic background to your dog but was much smaller. We took in our dogs because they were older and unwanted and stood little chance of the home they deserved, they were all much loved with us for the remainder of their lives. We might well have taken an XL type before the ban as we would have no reason not to. There are varying views on the XL situation but what isn’t acceptable is the constant abuse directed to those who own them. From what I see on the rescue site that we used the few XLs they had as the ban approached went to very good homes indeed, with careful owners.
The dog in the current case where the 10 year old died seems to be one where the dog was kept on the required regime but could not have been lawfully acquired. I do wonder if the dog hadn’t been passed on due to problems in its previous home.
I remember well when Rottweilers were the demon dog, we were told they were genetically and psychologically deranged. Now they seem to be treated as the same as other dogs. Please stop this abuse of those who own them, most of the owners are perfectly normal dog loving people.

You appear to be minimising the risk of XL Bullies

If it was the case it was just your risk to bear, and you had no dc or the animal was not around the public and could not escape your house or garden then at least it's just your risk, you may be unlucky or lucky with that animal.

The issue is we do not want that extra risk, we have seen the videos of mauling. Many ending in death or severe harm

I'm slightly concerned that TheDogsBalls dog 'won't tolerate' a muzzle and whatever his reaction to it was meant they gave up with the idea.

I hope multiple different types, styles and sizes of muzzle were tried. And hours making positive associations with it. I hope it's not a case of dog snapping/ growling and the owner too scared to push.

I will not stop speaking out against this abomination of a breed, and if you think that is abuse or bullying, fine. They are high-risk dogs, and the rest of us don't want to see them or be anywhere near them, so if demonising these dogs and their owners is what it takes to be rid of them sooner rather than later, I am here to do just that. Anyone who owns one is absolutely stupid.
There is no such thing as a careful bully-breed owner. You are either lucky or not. Tick tock, tick tock.

Let's be clear - the only people being abused are the children vulnerable to attack and everybody else intelligent enough to not own an XL bully.

They're not darling and they're not gorgeous. Another deluded fool.

Totally. They are hideous, and that's not even taking into account the danger they pose. Pure beast ugliness.

The owners of every dog that kills should be down for manslaughter.

That poor child.

""Four-year-old Mia DeRouen was watching television with her mother Tuesday in their Houma apartment when the family pit bull attacked, police said.
The dog, which was later gunned down by police, was a 2-year-old pit bull named Niko who hadn't previously shown signs of aggression, police said. There is no evidence the dog had been abused or trained to fight.
DeRouen and her mother, Megan Touchet, 27, were each mauled by the 130-pound dog, sustaining injuries to their upper torsos, necks and faces. Touchet was attacked while trying to rescue the girl, police said.

DeRouen died at Terrebonne General Medical Center. She would have turned 5 on April 3. Touchet was treated and released.

Sudden attacks are a hallmark of pit bulls, said Colleen Lynn, founder and president of DogsBite.org, a nonprofit group that raises awareness about dangerous dogs, focusing particularly on pit bulls.

"Unlike other dog breeds, pit bulls will attack without warning signals. It will always look like the attack is sudden. One minute it's on your lap, the next minute it's attacking you. It's unusual for most dog breeds to attack their owners, but pit bulls have a history of that in spades," she said.

Niko was likely an American Bully, a breed specifically designed for its weight and aggression, Lynn said.

"When these dogs bite, it's a hold-and-shake bite style. When they start an attack, it's virtually impossible to get them to stop," she said.

It took 12 shots to kill the dog, which remained aggressive after officers arrived, Houma Police Chief Todd Duplantis said.

"This was a very large dog. A monster," Duplantis said in a Wednesday afternoon news conference held at police headquarters. At 130 pounds, the dog was about four times larger than DeRouen.

This XLPit is related to many in UK, as the UK ones are massively inbred with a coefficient of inbreeding of 40%

Most pedigree dogs aim for a Coefficient of inbreeding of less than 5%

Yes, I know. I am actually in many of the US anti-pitbull Fb groups and see about these attacks all the time, and how it takes a round of bullets to kill these mauling machines. I was being somewhat flippant with my gun comment.

These poor children. And Ian Price, and all the humans who did not choose to be in the presence of hell hounds yet had their lives ended because other people are too stupid to understand genetics.

The ban is absurd because apparently these animals are dangerous enough to muzzle in public but in private, this is not required. It never could be but of course the home is where now there is greatest danger, particularly to children.

The parents know the law and have that knowledge- they should be prosecuted for child neglect and manslaughrer if death is a result. They aren’t fit parents really, and these deaths are preventable.

The one I know well actually is a really sweet dog. You can call me what you like, it says more about you than it does me. Hurling insults at me because I have stated I know an XL bully who I have always found to be lovely makes you look like an arrogant idiot.

If you read the rest of my post, you will see that I agree they should be banned going forwards.

But you are just going to pick the bits of people’s posts you want because you’re that kind of unintelligent fool.

It's nothing to do with news stories. The statistics are clear - more than half of deaths by dog attack are by XL bullies, with rottweilers second.

A list of known cases, including breeds, has been compiled on Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

However this doesn't tell the full story and the list isn't complete - not because someone is trying to hide deaths by labradoodles, lol, but because the personal details of the victims aren't always in the public domain. The official statistics from the ONS from 2001 to 30th September 2023 when the latest report was issued are horrifying. In any previous year, the maximum number of people killed by dogs in the UK was 6, up to 30th September 2023 it was a whopping SIXTEEN. This has got to stop.
Statista has a good representation but the original data is also accessible on the ONS website (through a downloadable Excel spreadsheet):
www.statista.com/statistics/1412413/deaths-caused-by-dog-attacks-england-and-wales/

Tick tock. They can all be as lovely as they like, for 99% of the time. Then boom, they snap, and you are mincemeat. So yes, that makes you unintelligent to think being "sweet" means it isn't capable of mauling you to death.
I bet Nicole Morey thought her dog was sweet too. Fool. Dead fool.

Late to the party, but I think it's a bit rich to accuse someone of "hurling insults" only to call them "brain dead human" in the next breath 😂

That dog you know may be "sweet" but is statistically much more likely to suddenly snap and maul someone to death than any other large breed, including whichever one yours is. And because of that significant statistical possibility I agree with @ScrambIed that it should be humanely put down before it does.

As recent cases have shown, banning them going forward doesn't go far enough.

What does 'really sweet' even mean? It's an ok animal until it hurts or kills someone

The problem is that an individual XL Bully can be lovely 99% of the time, but if they do snap and attack someone, it’s about the damage they can do. Another dog breed might be more likely to attack statistically but can’t do as much damage, so isn’t as dangerous.

This is a 10 yo, not a baby. My 10 yo is stronger than I am, albeit smaller. Some 10 yo’s are as tall as their parents. Their movements don’t usually resemble a small animal as babies and toddlers do. If the dog can kill a 10 yo it’s inherently extremely dangerous!