"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

My dog is vocal , without being yappy , which is actually really very helpful to read how he’s feeling.
If he is uncomfortable for whatever reason he growls .
We then know we need to get out of that situation / remove ourselves/ stop .
That is very rare because we don’t put him in uncomfortable situations.
He also grumbles a lot + does a lot of cat like noises 😂 and sighs , huffs which is ok just to let me know he’s had enough when I am grooming him .
He is also small and very manageable size wise , although he’s sturdy enough and not a fragile breed .

Only, xl bullies don't represent women in this. They represent men.

Its not a clean comparison, I grant you.

But XL bullies disproprotionately kill far more than any other breed.

To compare them to women when female killers actually are rare, is mental.

Honestly, these dogs terrify me. My husband is a paramedic and sometimes he goes to houses where there are big dogs. (Also being honest, the overlap between the places he goes to and ownership of unsuitable dogs is higher than average).

He will get the owner to put the dog away but it just takes one slip 😢

So glad your dogs were ok and so sorry you were injured. Any video I've seen of an attack the owners are less than useless. The dogs always seem to escape their collars and harnesses. They're relentless once they lock on. I'm on a Reddit thread about pitbulls and there are so many pets, especially cats, but lots of people being killed by them. It's horrendous.

That's awful. That dog has no love or affection in its eyes. It's constantly looking around and on the alert. It looks like it's on a hair trigger. I look after my friend's Labrador and you can see the doggy love in his eyes, body language and expressions. There's a connection there and I feel safe around him. That XL thing makes me shudder.

I wonder if there is some kind of petition to get them culled.

They should be put to sleep, and their dog as well.

Rest in peace dear child.

If you put 100 people in a room for an hour, they almost certainly wouldn't bite and kill each other.

If you put 100 labradors in a room, they most likely wouldn't bite and kill each other.

If you put 100 XL bullies in a room together, they'd kill each other.

It's that simple.

One of the excuses I've heard is "poodles and Labradors are just as dangerous, but the media doesn't report on it because it's not what middle England wants to hear". But there are so many news stories where it's reported that a human has been killed by a dog whose breed is currently unspecified... and then, a few days later, it emerges that it was an XL bully. How can the media be biased against XL bullies if the breed isn't even known when the story goes to press?

Whoever called them ‘predatory’ has hit the nail on the head for me. Whenever I see one it just reminds me of this…it’s the eyes…I truly believe they see us as prey.

It's almost ALWAYS an XL Bully or XL pit bull cross involved.

My friend was bitten by a Whippet recently when stepping in to stop a fight between two female Whippets who had previously got along {7 years they had lived peacefully together}

Friend intervened and was bitten on her bare arm - it was just four small puncture wounds {she needed antibiotics}

Another friend intervened in a dog fight {Between males , a Labrador and a Daschund} again, a bare arm was bitten - but not the ''shark bite'' type lacerations one sees from Pit bulls and XL Bullies.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12504859/American-Bully-XL-banned-plastic-surgeon-demands.html#:~:text=probably%20costing%20the-,',quite%20easily%2C'%20he%20added.

Again, regarding that Instagram account. That dog is merely tolerating those around it. It's constantly looking into the distance and on alert or staring at the woman taking photos as if sizing her up. It's barely interacting with those little girls, just tolerating them for the time being. It doesn't show any emotion or connection. It seems to have a cold intelligence and would rather be somewhere else. I'm tempted to follow that account just to see how long the status quo lasts before it goes berserk.

I could not agree more.

Please all XL bully owners try to understand when people read repeated instances of children & adults & other dogs either being severly injured or killed by this breed its only natural for them to feel outraged. The least you can do is never ever allow them out without a muzzle & keep them on a lead. If your dog took an unexpected turn & killed either a member of your family or a child playing in a park you would have to live with it on your conscience for the rest of your life along with being responsible for your dog being taken away & put to sleep. Please just do the right thing & muzzle up.

I have to regularly walk my children through a park to walk them to school. I live in fear of coming across one of those dogs, knowing the damage they could do to a small child. The current ban didn’t go far enough.

That woman is exactly the type of person to own a bully dog. Filters, fillers and thick as mince. She doesn’t deserve to have children to put them at risk in that way.

I’ve done a quick search online to see if there is already a petition but couldn’t find one. However, disappointingly there are loads of petitions against the current ‘ban’ (if you could call it that) and shockingly, one of the had over 600k signatures.

It’s so true, they are almost always owned by a specific type of person 😔
People who are likely to “go around” the ban and not register their “dog”.
You can’t be normal, as a parent if you choose to have one of those monsters near your children.

I would report to SS if I saw one of those with very young children it should be against the law.

To all the people calling for a cull, you need to wake up, I bet you can't even identify an XL bully, because the government couldn't - what they did was send out a bunch of measurements, and if your dog fit them you could choose to exempt and stick to the rules imposed. We did. Nobody is culling my dog, which might be an XL Bully or not. DNA tests are not admissable.

We rescued a 'staffy x' 3 years ago. When I took him to the vets after eventually gaining the right from his disgustingly, cruel abusive owner, I asked what she thought his breed was. She said she thought he was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier crossed with an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier. She identified him by her knowledge and his 'mascara'.

When the DEFRA measurements came out we chose to exempt him, and only because we wanted to safeguard him (he fit the height measurements). He was already chipped and neutered and so we only had to pay for liability insurance and he would need to be muzzled and tethered in public. Fortunately, we don't have to tether and muzzle him because we have available private fields for him to run and be free.

I've been to university twice and my DH is an engineer. We own our own business. We are not stupid or irresponsible. We've all been done over by the lax rules about dog ownership that the government(s) enforce or don't. This ban was meant to mean tough sentences for the people who decided to ignore the rules and it doesn't seem to be the case.

Whilst I'm a firm believer that it isn't breed and it is the way the dog is handled, I know many will disagree, but it doesn't negate the fact that people aren't being sentenced sufficiently for their our of control dogs, even though rules were put in place.

Nobody is going to cull my dog, and I'd unregister from the exemption, pay £££s and go to court if needed to prove he isn't a threat.

Please can someone explain more about the ban on owning an XL bully & what it means to current owners. Is it for example against the law across the whole of the UK to take them out without a muzzle? Rules & consequences etc

No, that dog doesn't look remotely stressed, not even in the slightest! It looks relaxed & at ease. It's not even showing any stress markers at the sparklers which is pretty unusual.

I agree we're at a point where I don't know what should be done about XL's but still - that dog in all the videos has no flags (also has ears & a tail. I'd be curious to know how many that have killed still have both)

You had a certain time to register for exemption...Beginning of this year?

After exemption the dog needs to be neutered, microchipped and it must be tethered and muzzled in public. You need public liability insurance.

This is England only. Scotland made a move after us, but I don't know their rules.

Consequences equal dog being confiscated and PTS, and prison/fines.

what a bizarre comment too.

but @AutumnLeaves24 has form for that. Are they honestly jealous you started a thread lol