Another fatal dog attack

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So saddened by the news a 10 year old girl has been killed by what sounds to be an XL Bully.

I'm shocked that any family would keep one after so many attacks. There are worse things than kindly being PTS.

It seems like the same line every time "loving family dog, never done anything like this".

How many do there have to be before people realise any XL Bully has it in them. It's not their fault, they're not bad dogs, it's just genetic the same way a dachshund barks or a spaniel's tail wags the dog.

Also, if you want a cuddly dog, get a bloody Labrador or a Retriever. The soppiest dogs I know are greyhounds.

Their accommodation is irrelevant.

There are loads of these dogs still around and most of the stupid owners don't care that they aren't muzzled. They are terrifying looking animals and it is so tedious to hear the 'no such thing as a bad dog' rubbish. There are dogs who are generically more aggressive than others and if one of these decides it wants to hurt you, it's so bloody big it can.

Is it? Funny that this happens at the end of half term when the dog's been cooped up in a small space with the child for a week - seemingly for the first time if it's "newly acquired".

Their accommodation isn't irrelevant.
It's a massive, dangerous dog in an incredibly small space with a child. There's. No safe place, no way of giving the dog and the child space away from each other, and a dog who can't move around freely.
That will certainly increase the chances of frustration and exposure.

If you have kids and own one of these dogs, you are a terrible parent.

A static caravan is no smaller than a flat, and they clearly had a large outdoor space. This is about the dog and it's owners, not their home.

Their accommodation is irrelevant.

I disagree. A very enclosed area, almost certainly without space for the dog to be properly separated from the child. And potentially (not sure in this case), no secure outside space for the dog either.
Regardless of breed, a large dog in a small space isn't great for the dog.

Yes I think so. At least you will have done something. You are obviously worried it isnt safe and so are a lot of other folk by the sound of it. Please report it.

They illegally acquired a banned dog and it killed a child. Anything other than a manslaughter charge is an injustice.

@yarnbarn if it had been someone else's daughter would their guilt have been enough punishment? Why should it be any different for allowing one of that hideous dogs to attack their 10 year old?

I'd call the police as well. The law is that the dog needs to be on a lead in public, and that the lead needs to be held securely by someone over the age of 16.

I don't think leaving them tied up in the street is allowed. It's not under your control.

My cousin has one (all paperwork correct etc) and he and his partner are having a baby next year. I am genuinely terrified for them.

@KoalaCalledKevin thank you for the info! So they can’t be left unattended like she leaves it?

A static caravan is no smaller than a flat

A small flat. And I think having an XL bully in a flat is also stupid.

That poor dog. Imagine being shouted at like that. Absolutely no need. If she treats it like that she’ll end up being attacked by it.

I have a large dog who is really strong and fast. I am really scared of XL bullies.

Yes, thank you.

I don't care if times are hard and there's a cost of living crisis. If you have a small home you shouldn't buy a big dog.

The 23y old woman in Ireland who had her arm ripped off by her own bull breed dogs (at least one was an xl bulky, the other 2 were mixed but also restrcited) and then killed lived in a large, multi storey house in large grounds. Didn't make a difference https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gg6zql03eo.amp

No one should have these and other similar bull breed dogs or cane corsos as pets, never mind in cramped conditions with a child. Why would anyone have a pet that is capable of killing adult humans, and regularly do. Just unfathomable how peiple can be so stupid.

That's awful. I see so many in the NE.

I saw a very obvious xl being walked by a man across an Asda car park with kids in tow. It was straining at the lead and unmuzzled. I wanted to report but wasn't sure how to. I'm assuming 101?

The point is these parents and owners of that dangerous animal did not accept the fact that it was a potential killer

I believe this is the crux of the problem.

Intellectually stunted people refusing to revise their own beliefs until they have obtained first-hand evidence to the contrary.

This is an interview with the owner of different dogs who went on to kill someone: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25740032/rapper-xl-bullies-breed-wiped-out-killed-gran/

That owner had 2 XL adults and 6 of their puppies living with his 12 year old son, up until the 2 adults killed his mother in law. He chose not to heed the warnings because he had not personally witnessed any violence.

I presume the owners are her parents?

I think they've already started serving their sentence? What do you think could be worse than their child dying?

I cannot believe the dog was recently acquired by parents, knowing what we do, but if it was a dog they knew (owned by grandparents maybe?) it's slightly more understandable.

i don't think they should all be killed, that's a slippery slope. What next, German shepards? Jack Russels, your cat?

A static caravan is considerably smaller than a flat.
But people really shouldn't have large dogs in flats either .

Well if they start breading German shepards, Jack Russell and cats to look and act like they're on steroids maybe

I saw a very obvious xl being walked by a man across an Asda car park with kids in tow. It was straining at the lead and unmuzzled. I wanted to report but wasn't sure how to. I'm assuming 101?

I'd assume 101 as well, but I wouldn't hold out hope for anything happening. I mean, realistically it's an unidentified man who wouldn't still be there even if the police came immediately.

'The family, who have not been named, live in a static caravan in a compound '

I'd hazard a guess and say that it wasn't a family pet as the family are making out, but bought as a guest dog or at least to look fierce and 'hard' to any unwanted visitors.