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Missing from Camden - Sarah Cunningham

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mrshoho · 03/11/2024 19:16

Extremely worried for Sarah. Last sighting was the early hours of Saturday morning getting in to a black Vauxhall car in Camden. Please share.

Missing from Camden - Sarah Cunningham
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SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:10

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:09

@AshleighB9393 has already identified herself as a personal friend of Sarah. Please be kind, or if you can't, don't say anything. (If you had read the thread, you'd have known this.)

This is an anonymous internet forum where no-one knows who anyone is.

Anyway, I'm going to back out now but I still do not believe anyone should be copy and pasting from Reddit.

Let the police and the media update officially.

Christwosheds · 04/11/2024 10:12

What a tragic outcome. I am so sorry for all of you who knew Sarah. I have experienced a family member going missing and in my case there was also a tragic end, so I know how shocking and painful this is.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:14

@SwanRivers, your opinion is valid. However, what was not warranted was your kneejerk aggression and virtue signaling towards someone who may be experiencing an awful loss and tragedy and attempting to do the correct thing under horrible circumstances.

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:15

I'm sorry to hear that @Christwosheds

Imagine how much worse you might've felt if a random anonymous person on the internet, 'updated' everyone that they'd died before the body had even been officially identified?

This whole thread should go now I think.

Christwosheds · 04/11/2024 10:17

Thank you Swan

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:17

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:14

@SwanRivers, your opinion is valid. However, what was not warranted was your kneejerk aggression and virtue signaling towards someone who may be experiencing an awful loss and tragedy and attempting to do the correct thing under horrible circumstances.

NO.

It is NOT virtue signalling to want some respect for the family, instead of random internet copy and pasting.

Imagine if she was your daughter or sister and you read this before there was any official communication/identification?

YoghurtPotWashingMachine · 04/11/2024 10:18

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:15

I'm sorry to hear that @Christwosheds

Imagine how much worse you might've felt if a random anonymous person on the internet, 'updated' everyone that they'd died before the body had even been officially identified?

This whole thread should go now I think.

@SwanRivers How do you know there has been no formal identification? Your reaction was unwarranted. Let it go.

I'm sorry for your loss Ashleigh.

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:20

YoghurtPotWashingMachine · 04/11/2024 10:18

@SwanRivers How do you know there has been no formal identification? Your reaction was unwarranted. Let it go.

I'm sorry for your loss Ashleigh.

Look, until we know there HAS and the police have put it out on SM, let's keep Reddit posts and the likes OFF the thread.

This is surely common sense?

Plus even if her immediate family have been informed, that doesn't mean they ALL have.

They don't need to read it on SM.

YoghurtPotWashingMachine · 04/11/2024 10:21

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:20

Look, until we know there HAS and the police have put it out on SM, let's keep Reddit posts and the likes OFF the thread.

This is surely common sense?

Plus even if her immediate family have been informed, that doesn't mean they ALL have.

They don't need to read it on SM.

Just leave the thread policing to Mumsnet FFS.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:21

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:15

I'm sorry to hear that @Christwosheds

Imagine how much worse you might've felt if a random anonymous person on the internet, 'updated' everyone that they'd died before the body had even been officially identified?

This whole thread should go now I think.

Don't you think that if Sarah's friends have been informed and are able to provide an update, then it's highly unlikely that her family members are unaware?

Just own it, you jumped on one of her traumatised friends, before you had taken the time to read that the poster was in fact her friend, while attempting to be seen to "do the right thing", accusing someone of posting salacious info.

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 10:22

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 04/11/2024 08:53

Yes exactly. She is a friend of a friend and reading people’s faux nativity arm chair sleuthing is really making me cross. She’s a talented artist and deserves respect, not for idiots twats on MN to gossip over.

ANY missing person ''deserves respect''.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:23

@YoghurtPotWashingMachine "Just leave the thread policing to Mumsnet FFS."

Indeed.

DollyBrolly · 04/11/2024 10:24

@SwanRivers is absolutely right. There will be many, many people who know Sarah in real life, who will be following the discussions on these threads in case of any sightings. They won't all have posted. And the police don't contact every friend a person has to notify them if a body has been found / identified.
This is an absolutely horrific way for someone to discover that a friend / colleague has died, if indeed she has.

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:24

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:21

Don't you think that if Sarah's friends have been informed and are able to provide an update, then it's highly unlikely that her family members are unaware?

Just own it, you jumped on one of her traumatised friends, before you had taken the time to read that the poster was in fact her friend, while attempting to be seen to "do the right thing", accusing someone of posting salacious info.

Rubbish.

No-one knows who anyone is on this thread.

Even if her immediate family have been informed, they might not ALL have.

But hey, as long as MNetters get their unofficial update that's more important than the feelings of her family before a body has even been identified.

Disgusting.

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:26

DollyBrolly · 04/11/2024 10:24

@SwanRivers is absolutely right. There will be many, many people who know Sarah in real life, who will be following the discussions on these threads in case of any sightings. They won't all have posted. And the police don't contact every friend a person has to notify them if a body has been found / identified.
This is an absolutely horrific way for someone to discover that a friend / colleague has died, if indeed she has.

Edited

Thank you.

It's disgusting how these things spread because people seem more interested in their own feelings about a complete stranger, than the feelings of her actual family.

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 10:30

ChimneySweepLiverpool · 04/11/2024 10:03

It looks as though her friends have updated but I'm really hoping it's not real as it's not showing on the news websites yet

Surely , surely they wouldn't be ''updating'' on Reddit if they were a friend, would they?

Hope they are misinformed, as you say, no formal announcement has been made.

buffyajp · 04/11/2024 10:35

DollyBrolly · 04/11/2024 10:24

@SwanRivers is absolutely right. There will be many, many people who know Sarah in real life, who will be following the discussions on these threads in case of any sightings. They won't all have posted. And the police don't contact every friend a person has to notify them if a body has been found / identified.
This is an absolutely horrific way for someone to discover that a friend / colleague has died, if indeed she has.

Edited

She absolutely is not right. The person concerned has been verified as a friend just not to her. It is not for her or you to thread police. Or grief hijack which is far more despicable behaviour. To all Sarah’s friends I am so sorry for your loss and please ignore the trolls.

Vax · 04/11/2024 10:35

What a tragic update. Lots of love to all her friends and family Flowers

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:38

buffyajp · 04/11/2024 10:35

She absolutely is not right. The person concerned has been verified as a friend just not to her. It is not for her or you to thread police. Or grief hijack which is far more despicable behaviour. To all Sarah’s friends I am so sorry for your loss and please ignore the trolls.

'Verified' by whom???

Even if they came on here with a passport proving who they are, what gives them the right to post that terribly explicit post on this thread, risking the Sarah's actual FAMILY reading it, before they may have been officially informed?

Honestly, the sense of entitlement here being put above the family's feelings and needs is absolutely disgusting.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:40

The person who shared the update on reddit is the person who, as a friend of Sarah's, has been posting relentlessly from the start (first post?) about her disappearance and for her safe return.

The poster on here who shared that info identified herself early on as a personal friend of Sarah's and also a friend of the reddit poster.

They have chosen to share the outcome, and as such, and being privy to the information, will also likely be privy to the knowledge of who already has been informed.

That is their information to share if they wish, and they should not be berated or attacked for doing so.

My late husband's passing unavoidably became known to some people who knew him well and cared for him via social media, purely because I did not have the strength to inform everyone who knew us personally myself. I've no doubt that this was a terrible shock, however, I and they understood how this came about, and did not hold it against anyone.

DollyBrolly · 04/11/2024 10:41

buffyajp · 04/11/2024 10:35

She absolutely is not right. The person concerned has been verified as a friend just not to her. It is not for her or you to thread police. Or grief hijack which is far more despicable behaviour. To all Sarah’s friends I am so sorry for your loss and please ignore the trolls.

Sorry, are you part of MNHQ and have verified that this person is a friend of Sarah's?
If Sarah has indeed passed away, then my wholehearted sympathies go out to her friends and family, including Ashleigh and anyone else reading the thread, who may know her. I'm not "grief hijacking" - I haven't even expressed any grief as I don't even know whether there is anything to grieve about!
As for "policing the thread", I'm not. I have reported Ashleigh's comment for MNHQ to do the job of "policing", but I'm allowed to express my opinion that, in a situation where a person you know has died, finding out about it through an anonymous post on an online forum would be really upsetting.
If MNHQ have done some behind the scenes work and verified the identities of any of the posters on here, then they're welcome to come on and say so. It won't change my opinion that it was an inappropriate update on an online forum where you don't know who may be reading.

StickyStones · 04/11/2024 10:42

Just let it go @SwanRivers. Your anger and disgust is not what this thread needs.

To Sarah's family and friends; I'm so sorry to hear this tragic update.

SwanRivers · 04/11/2024 10:43

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 04/11/2024 10:40

The person who shared the update on reddit is the person who, as a friend of Sarah's, has been posting relentlessly from the start (first post?) about her disappearance and for her safe return.

The poster on here who shared that info identified herself early on as a personal friend of Sarah's and also a friend of the reddit poster.

They have chosen to share the outcome, and as such, and being privy to the information, will also likely be privy to the knowledge of who already has been informed.

That is their information to share if they wish, and they should not be berated or attacked for doing so.

My late husband's passing unavoidably became known to some people who knew him well and cared for him via social media, purely because I did not have the strength to inform everyone who knew us personally myself. I've no doubt that this was a terrible shock, however, I and they understood how this came about, and did not hold it against anyone.

That is their information to share if they wish, and they should not be berated or attacked for doing so.

No it really really isn't.

Let the body be identified, let the family be officially informed, let the police update and let the official news channels broadcast.

That's the DECENT way to do it when someone has died in tragic circumstances.

No-one here is more important than this woman's family.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 04/11/2024 10:45

This made me curious about how safe London is as I’m overseas. Seems like a lot of people go missing and are found in the Thames or the river. That’s strange to me because even though we have a much smaller population, it’s very unusual bodies are found in the river.

StickyStones · 04/11/2024 10:46

well you clearly think your opinion is more important than anyone else's @SwanRivers

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