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Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

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dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:01

Reading it now its horrific. People saying we heard screams- and yet did nothing??? How does a person just think that no im not going to report this, most likely because they cant be bothered/ dont want to be involved. Scum of the earth the dad is. The stepmother ( and her sister!) going on and on about how they feel bad etc and dont do anything!

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dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:03

I myself am from a similar ethnic background, and you bet that in many from our community will just brush it off. It makes me angry that because its a child, they are allowed to be beaten

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Jingleballs2 · 01/11/2024 20:04

It baffles me how people can just go about their life in the same house a child, or anyone, is being beaten and abused

Wendysfriend · 01/11/2024 20:05

It's just shocking and heartbreaking reading those text messages. Absolute shame on them that poor child. There's no excuses to do nothing when you 100% know the child is been abused. Listening, watching a child being beaten black, and reading the Quran and texting !!!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/11/2024 20:06

I don't understand why the neighbours didn't flag up concerns.

But I also don't understand why parents are allowed to take children out of school and "home school" them without more mandatory wellbeing checks.

That poor child was failed horrifically by every single person around her. What a sad little life she led.

TheSnugHare · 01/11/2024 20:07

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TheBeesKnee · 01/11/2024 20:07

YANBU, this case has been haunting me. Poor Sara. Ordered to live with her dad then tortured for 2 years. She had absolutely no one looking out for her. She must have been so scared and lonely.

Her poor mum as well, I don't know how you'd even begin to deal with knowing you left your children to live through such horror.

bows101 · 01/11/2024 20:08

You are not alone 😞
It's not just their community, there's many British children who have faced the same and no one did anything.
So so sad people don't want to get involved - I just could not listen to a child being abused and carry on with my life.
I want to cry everytime I see her beautiful face.

dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:08

Wendysfriend · 01/11/2024 20:05

It's just shocking and heartbreaking reading those text messages. Absolute shame on them that poor child. There's no excuses to do nothing when you 100% know the child is been abused. Listening, watching a child being beaten black, and reading the Quran and texting !!!

Yeah i myself am muslim and 'putting on the quran' whilst a child is being abuse in the next room is horrific. It angers me how some people think quran is a get out of jail free card

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TheSnugHare · 01/11/2024 20:09

bows101 · 01/11/2024 20:08

You are not alone 😞
It's not just their community, there's many British children who have faced the same and no one did anything.
So so sad people don't want to get involved - I just could not listen to a child being abused and carry on with my life.
I want to cry everytime I see her beautiful face.

That’s due to mental health rather than culture more often than not

comedycentral · 01/11/2024 20:09

You hear similar things all the time on here: lots of posters reporting really concerning things they see and hear. In some cases, there is endless crying, shouting, and all sorts of things, and they just listen in for months before posting a hand-wringing post wondering if they are interfering or overreacting. I know it's hard to be that person, but as long as you have good intentions, then surely it's better than doing nothing.

dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:09

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Exactly what im angry about. Its all going to brushed underneath the rug by people from our culture because its normal and its okay because shes a girl

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dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:12

Also where are the siblings??

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BlueSilverCats · 01/11/2024 20:12

It's not that baffling if you read threads on here from concerned neighbours ( it can be about anything from drug use, DV, screaming, swearing etc) .

A billion posters will tell OP to mind her own business, stop being nosy, a snitch, a bitch, do not report, it only makes things worse , it's just a snapshot and so on.

TheSnugHare · 01/11/2024 20:13

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AmICrazyToEvenBother · 01/11/2024 20:14

A similar reason that the Rotheram (and other other) grooming rings were swept under the carpet. I suspect. People are sometimes scared of reporting crime that relates to ethnic minorities.

cloudsss · 01/11/2024 20:15

I agree with you but at the same time Star Hobson’s family and friends of her mother reported concerns 5 times to SS. You’d hope if neighbours had reported it would have saved Sara but it might not have.

BodenCardiganNot · 01/11/2024 20:15

@BlueSilverCats
Totally agree with you. 'Keep your beak out' is a regular reply to posters who ask what they should do in a situation where they are concerned about a child.

Dweetfidilove · 01/11/2024 20:16

TheSnugHare · 01/11/2024 20:09

That’s due to mental health rather than culture more often than not

It's due to wickedness. Mental health is usually not the reason people kill their children, otherwise more of us would be doing the same.

BodenCardiganNot · 01/11/2024 20:16

@TheSnugHare
What is due to 'mental health'?

itsmylife7 · 01/11/2024 20:16

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That's untrue so stop talking shite.

Dweetfidilove · 01/11/2024 20:17

BlueSilverCats · 01/11/2024 20:12

It's not that baffling if you read threads on here from concerned neighbours ( it can be about anything from drug use, DV, screaming, swearing etc) .

A billion posters will tell OP to mind her own business, stop being nosy, a snitch, a bitch, do not report, it only makes things worse , it's just a snapshot and so on.

Very true.

coxesorangepippin · 01/11/2024 20:18

Ethnically British people don’t have this kind of culture,

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Huh????!

Pigeonqueen · 01/11/2024 20:18

Yanbu. At all. I read those texts etc with the same anger.

SpoonHeader · 01/11/2024 20:18

Any family with step parent involvement means abuse is 100 times more likely. I am not necessarily blaming it all on step parents, those are the crime stats.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/11/2024 20:18

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/11/2024 20:06

I don't understand why the neighbours didn't flag up concerns.

But I also don't understand why parents are allowed to take children out of school and "home school" them without more mandatory wellbeing checks.

That poor child was failed horrifically by every single person around her. What a sad little life she led.

Have a look at some Home Ed posts and you'll see the rage that some parents feel at the thought that somebody from the council might want to check that their child is OK and actually being educated. It's as though they expect it to be obvious that they 'aren't that sort of parent' and an intention to protect children by contacting the parent is tantamount to deliberate harassment and abuse - even the fact that the previous school is legally obliged to notify the local authority of the decision to withdraw is seen by some as akin to the State still trying to steal their children.

Obviously, not all EHE parents by any stretch - but there are a considerable number and they are extremely vocal in it and would strongly resist any attempt to make monitoring anything other than something to be avoided at all costs.

Cases like this where the previous school can do nothing more because of that legal right to immediately withdraw for EHE are the flip side.