Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

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Reading it now its horrific. People saying we heard screams- and yet did nothing??? How does a person just think that no im not going to report this, most likely because they cant be bothered/ dont want to be involved. Scum of the earth the dad is. The stepmother ( and her sister!) going on and on about how they feel bad etc and dont do anything!

Ive read about that stat and it’s from America in the 80s and has been debunked so I’m surprised it’s still being touted on courses. The stepmum is awful here but she knew it was wrong and tried in a half hearted way to raise the alarm. The dad was the evil psychopath but we’re saying the woman is to blame?

Oh I don't throw the term around lightly, I only use it when someone is actually racist.

I didn't report your earlier posts for racism, but others obviously did and MNHQ obviously agreed, because the posts were deleted.

Hopefully MNHQ will ban you if you keep doing it. I really can't be arsed with racists any more.

Having an unrelated male increases the risk of abuse exponentially also. So it is more common when it is a step father. However, it is not the presence of the step parent in the home necessarily, it might be that the original partner was an abuser and that’s why the relationship between biological parents broke down etc etc. It may be that the step parent is less likely to report as it’s not their biological child, but it’s not a matter of the step parent being the abuser. Statistically it is always far more likely to be the man, whether they are the biological parent, step parent, or partner, so this is another layer. Obviously some women do abuse but it is much more
commonly men.

Are you for real? Your posts on this thread reek of racism. I've just reported one and I see that others have already been deleted.

Where I'm from (Germany) homeschooling is illegal. If kids are kept at home for homeschooling, the police will come and escort them to school.

You might think that's extreme, but the advantage is that children can't "vanish" in the same way Sara did.

This was in reply to @TheSnugHare

The abuse was allowed to continue by the step mother because it wasn't her child. The step mother's sister did nothing because it wasn't her niece. If the biological mother was in the household I don't think this would have happened.

The visa rules mean that wouldn’t be allowed now thank god.

I can't see how they wouldn't have known as she had multiple injuries from a sustained period of abuse. To me, it seems very unlikely that they didn't atleast have an inkling that she was being abused.

I made three reports about a child that lived next door to me, I did not hear her crying but the house was in almost constant darkness, the back yard was piled high with bin bags of rotting rubbish, I would see the little girl trying to look out of a window dressed only in her underwear in the winter and then being roughly dragged back out of view by her dad and the blind pulled right down. while i never saw or heard any violence it all just felt wrong and I am convinced that reporting it was the right thing to do.

@Sugarspiceandeverythingnice so its me that gives being muslim a bad name, and not urfan sharif? Sickening. I know that its not all, as obviously i dont hit my own kids, but its often and its normalised.

Race and culture is a red herring I think the main difference in the UK is that some religions still try and keep woman segregated and repressed. So they are perhaps starting to on even more of a back foot.

Unfortunately it's simply male violence against women.
Having said that I read about a girl who was abused and she went to the police and taken to a community leader who took her to her parents.

At the time it was said, why are we accepting lower standards for women.

I wouldn't be surprised if levels of abuse are sadly the same or more but due to closer community bonds and links it's harder for those women to speak out.

Tried to raise the alarm? Are you mad?

She was messaging her sister in a gossipy way. Not in a raise the alarm way. Just as if she was having a shit day and wanted to vent.

She is as much to blame as the others here. There were bite marks on the body that didn’t match either of the other two and the step mum refused to give a teeth impression. Disgusting.

@Dweetfidilove but asian background women arent going to report the abuse, especially those who are 1st gen immigrants

there’s been plenty of cases where the biological mum tolerated and covered up abuse from biological dad - Ellie Butler for instance

Of course it does. But using cultures can be a helpful flag.

Ive reported one child from my school suddenly being taken out of school. She’s from Africa. There is no forwarding school or information. Her dad is lovely. She’s only 9. However, knowing her culture I’ve raised it. I’m probably wrong. Glad if I am. But there is a small chance I may be right. Should I be shut up for being racist?

A step parent in the home is considered the highest risk factor for child abuse and the what seems to be a never ending stream of these awful cases seems to bear this out

Sadly there was yet another case of abuse today where a boy friend killed his girlfriends daughter he wasn't the father .

Higher risk factor than drug addiction, alcoholism etc?

My child’s school is a UNICEF Rights Respecting School. They do teach children about their rights. I’m not sure if would have helped poor Sara Sharif though. She wasn’t responsible for protecting her own rights; she needed other people to protect her.

Pakistan

If I was racist then I would have been banned. If a comment or poster gets a lot of reports, the comment gets removed and the poster gets banned
My posts have been taken the wrong way and misinterpreted. people have responded as if I think that violence from British people does not happen. I acknowledged in another comment that it does.
I think it’s more likely that one of my comments were removed because of that. Because it was taken the wrong way and reported a number of times.
It is a fact that violence is ingrained in other ethnicities and religions, which makes abuse more common and likely. British people use violence for other reasons.
Calling me a racist doesn’t help anyone. People are afraid to intervene incase they are called a racist. I’m not afraid of what a random person says to me. I know what is more important.
I think that you trying to provoke me. I don’t have the time or energy for that either

it only shows you the fallacy of their usage of that religion

There is something missed that can help these children and for some reason people get very cross if it's mentioned. It appears to me as if they don't want these children saved when they get angry.

If step parents are a safeguarding risk then men with multiple wives isn't helpful to children is it?

If multiple generations do not breed outside their own extended families, they can become over generations quite violent apparently.

He was her father not step father.