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Those who believe MN is more leftists, what makes you think so?

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ItTook8WibesToKnow7WasEnough · 31/10/2024 16:08

Because to me MN has always come off much more right / conservative.

So, if you can point out what makes it so leftist.

OP posts:
EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 17:52

I don’t think I’ve seen Clavinova post without multiple Labour posters going for it

That has been going on since what? Partygate or earlier. Idk how she doesn’t lose it but hats off to her for that

I don’t think that quote below applies

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 17:53

GreatNorthBun · 01/11/2024 15:29

It's interesting now there's a thanks button - you definitely get a different picture than before. Sometimes I'll find myself accidentally (I don't seek bunfights) disagreeing with everyone on a thread - either because we're talking at cross purposes or I've stumbled across an ideological echo chamber - and it can feel like everyone on MN thinks in just one way.

But those threads are where you get loads and loads of thanks notifications.The lurkers support me in thanks notifications 😂.

So it's more like once a thread starts to go very strongly one way and people are getting aerated, most more moderate people just don't engage, so it snaps into one ideological position quite rigidly. It feels like a consensus but it's not quite the same.

This is very true.

Zonder · 01/11/2024 17:53

To be fair, Clav does come out with some "interesting" posts that do inspire people to respond with facts.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 17:55

I think , if she wants to, Clavinova is more than capable of speaking for herself.

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 17:58

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 17:55

I think , if she wants to, Clavinova is more than capable of speaking for herself.

Of course she can. She can deal with multiple posters mocking etc in a way most would lose it at

I think some can't see it though as shown by replies and that quote.

Moonshiners · 01/11/2024 17:58

What a strange comment. I know hundreds of people and lead a very active work and social life with people from a huge variety of backgrounds. I've lived in about five different cities worked in many different jobs and nobody has openly ever been anti abortion. Ive just had aook and current studies show that only about 6% of the population are anti-abortion. It's a pretty rare thing to believe in. Where is 87% of people are pro abortion. You're very much in the minority.

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 18:00

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 17:58

Of course she can. She can deal with multiple posters mocking etc in a way most would lose it at

I think some can't see it though as shown by replies and that quote.

Honestly she deserves a medal.

SoporificLettuce · 01/11/2024 18:06

LoveSandbanks · 31/10/2024 18:41

How is being left anti Christian?

for that matter, where does it talk about terminating a pregnancy in the Bible?

Jesus said feed the poor, surely left leaning is more Christian?

As a Christian, my experience of many other contributors on MN is that they tend to be very negative, mocking, sneering etc. towards Christianity.

However, MNHQ have recently added a Christian Mumsnetters board, which I welcome as a ‘safe space’ for Christians to chat about issues in which we are interested.

On the abortion issue MN is absolutely prochoice, both in terms of the majority of contributors and MNHQ. Prolife contributions must be very carefully written to avoid being deleted by MNHQ moderators.

So given both of the above I would say that contributors on MN definitely tend to be anti Christian and prochoice, therefore left wing.

MNHQ is not anti Christian but is definitely prochoice.

CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 18:14

@SoporificLettuce
"So given both of the above I would say that contributors on MN definitely tend to be anti Christian and prochoice, therefore left wing"

I absolutely disagree with your assertion that being anti Christian (I think you might actually mean either anti religion, or atheist, which are very different things) or pro choice is the preserve of the Left.

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 18:44

Aduvetday · 01/11/2024 13:53

It’s left leaning. There is a group of prolific posters. They are open about being pensioners/benefits claimants. This have all day to post and take over threads. They do so, sneering at people. Even if they’ve never voted Tory in their lives! Anyone with a bit of money or successful job is often called a Tory bot. People’s genuine concerns mocked. Sneering language to anyone who comes across as working class and has other political concerns which don’t fit the left narrative. Everyone knows it goes on and if you don’t maybe you are part of the Starmer fan club.

You don't do irony, clearly.

pointythings · 01/11/2024 18:45

CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 18:14

@SoporificLettuce
"So given both of the above I would say that contributors on MN definitely tend to be anti Christian and prochoice, therefore left wing"

I absolutely disagree with your assertion that being anti Christian (I think you might actually mean either anti religion, or atheist, which are very different things) or pro choice is the preserve of the Left.

I agree. Branding people as 'anti Christian' for not agreeing with some manifestations of Christianity is a gross simplification and a manifestation of the victim mentality some people have.

I'm an atheist. I'm completely in favour of people having the freedom to choose and live their faith. I just want that faith to keep its nose out of my life, hence I want laws that are made based on secular tenets, and I want religion and government properly separated. No Bishops in the HoL, no invoking any religious ideas when debating new laws. The laws of a nation should be there for everyone, not just the majority group of the faithful. And yes, that means I 100% oppose ALL religiously founded regimes, no matter what the faith in question.

It is also not the case that being pro choice is the preserve of the left. Plenty of right wing people on MN support the right to choose. People are complicated.

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 18:47

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 18:00

Honestly she deserves a medal.

Cutting and pasting is not that difficult.

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 18:48

iamtheblcksheep · 01/11/2024 15:14

For me it’s the constant barrage of abuse anybody gets for suggesting someone works more hours if they are struggling for money.

Because there are usually a bunch of reasons the 'someone' can not do so.

pointythings · 01/11/2024 18:52

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 18:47

Cutting and pasting is not that difficult.

Well, quite. It would be different if Clav ever said what SHE actually thinks of the issues under discussion, but all we get is a screed of cut and paste, much of it over a decade old and not very relevant. That's hardly heroic.

In terms of 'work more hours' as a solution - that's privilege talking, operating on the assumption that it's possible or even easy for everyone to do.

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 18:53

Not sure what you mean. She deserves a medal for all the times she has been rounded on and not lost it.

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 18:57

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 18:53

Not sure what you mean. She deserves a medal for all the times she has been rounded on and not lost it.

To be fair, when the going gets tough Clav usually says she has to go out!🙂

Mumsnet doesn't really like us naming and discussing posters when they are not present, so I'll say nothing further.

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 19:00

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 18:53

Not sure what you mean. She deserves a medal for all the times she has been rounded on and not lost it.

Yep. This the amount of people taking swipes, if people can't see that and post that quote or whatever, is it because they are part of it, maybe

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 19:02

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 18:57

To be fair, when the going gets tough Clav usually says she has to go out!🙂

Mumsnet doesn't really like us naming and discussing posters when they are not present, so I'll say nothing further.

Oh does she, ok fair enough 😀

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 19:13

Regarding the OP - Mumsnet seems to be like the BBC. Rightwing people think it's too left leaning, and leftwing people think it's too right leaning. Independent analysis shows it's pretty neutral overall.

SpoonHeader · 01/11/2024 19:17

BjornTheFellHanded · 01/11/2024 14:10

The traditional left/right political divide, with its rigid categorizations and binary labels, feels increasingly ill-suited to the complexities of our modern world. This framework, born from historical class struggles and ideologies, simply cannot encapsulate the intricate web of social, economic, and environmental issues we face today. Such a simplistic division forces individuals to align with predefined “sides” that often fail to address the nuanced, multifaceted nature of most issues. In reality, people’s perspectives are usually far more complex, varied, and contradictory than a binary political spectrum can represent. By framing every issue as a left- or right-leaning matter, we strip away the potential for thoughtful, individual analysis and end up with a framework that inhibits rather than enhances dialogue and problem-solving.

Moreover, the insistence on framing problems within a left/right debate breeds division, pitting people against one another based on arbitrary labels instead of encouraging collaboration. This polarisation can make it nearly impossible for individuals to engage meaningfully with diverse perspectives, as they are pressured to take “sides” rather than approach each issue on its own merits. Many people, when thinking and talking outside of political labels, would likely find they share common ground on individual issues, but the left/right binary obscures this potential for unity. If we moved beyond this outdated framework and approached issues independently of any political spectrum, there would be more room for dialogue, constructive debate, and solutions that better reflect the complexity and diversity of human thought and experience.

This.

AndThereSheGoes · 01/11/2024 19:36

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 19:02

Oh does she, ok fair enough 😀

She will debate all comers though. The going is always tough. I guess she might actually have to go out at some point but I don't think it's because a load of gobshites are having a go.

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 19:41

AndThereSheGoes · 01/11/2024 19:36

She will debate all comers though. The going is always tough. I guess she might actually have to go out at some point but I don't think it's because a load of gobshites are having a go.

Yes agree with you. I guess we all have to go out at some point!

CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 19:42

Wasn't there once a Brexit supporting poster who always had to go and decorate a cake at tricky moments?

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 19:56

CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 19:42

Wasn't there once a Brexit supporting poster who always had to go and decorate a cake at tricky moments?

Given how those threads go I don't blame them

Locutus2000 · 01/11/2024 20:16

AndThereSheGoes · 01/11/2024 19:36

She will debate all comers though. The going is always tough. I guess she might actually have to go out at some point but I don't think it's because a load of gobshites are having a go.

Whataboutery is not debate.

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