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To have shouted at a stranger at the pool?

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Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:08

I’m still mulling this over so needed some opinions from you wise owls. The fact I’m still thinking about it makes me think I probably did the wrong thing 😖

scenario: busy pool today with Dd8 and her friend, we had just into a family cubicle to change after a nice swim. Changing rooms were busy and in high demand which is normal for weekend family swim time. We’d been in there for a couple of mins (so just at the stage I’m half dressed with dripping wet hair and the girls are wrapped up in towels slowly starting to dry off). The door to the cubicle gets banged on really loudly so I ignored it assuming someone had the wrong cubicle. However when it happened again really loudly I said “it’s occupied, won’t be too long” and the person on the other side started shouting about a jacket and rattling the door. The knocking and rattling of
the door continued and got louder and this girls started to get upset so I opened it a crack to say I think you’ve got the wrong cubicle, and a very red faced angry woman started shouting at me saying I’d taken her cubicle and stolen her daughter’s jacket 🤷‍♀️I had to speak loudly as she was literally just ranting and I said I think you have the wrong cubicle, it’s me and 2 girls and we are changing so please step away and you are welcome to come in when we are done but there’s nothing it in apart from our stuff.
She then put her hand on the door and continued to shout about a jacket, saying she needed to come in and check as I had clearly moved her clothes out of it and stolen the cubicle and jacket. I finally lost my temper and shouted back (I know that was wrong but it was awful, the girls were upset and she had her hand on the door so I couldn’t shut and lock it) and she started really yelling at me. I didn’t know what to do so asked loudly if security was around (lots of wide eyed parents standing who did nothing but not a lifeguard in sight as they were poolside and no security as they of course would normally have no reason to patrol a kids changing area)
She then screamed that I was racist and she was calling security on me for theft 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️and walked off, so I went back in to reassure the girls, having locked the door.
Next thing I know a lifeguard of about 17 who looked confused knocked on the door and said a lady had come to complain that her daughter’s expensive jacket had been stolen and I had been racist towards her. I felt really upset (I think just shock) and managed to wobble out the above story and that I was finishing getting the girls ready and we would come out and she could check it for this jacket (that clearly wasn’t in there). Then a security guard arrived so it was chaotic at this point, it all got repeated and she said she would try and find the women. She came back after a few minutes to say she’d spoken to her and told her she should have been polite and waited for us to exit before going in to check if the coat was in there, but that she had denied raising her voice and said that I had been deliberately goading and obstructive and racist. I got quite upset and said I certainly wasn’t racist or goading and while I did stop her entering the cubicle it was only because the girls were naked and we had just started getting changed. She sort of shrugged and nodded and walked off and I gathered up my things and we left. I feel awful for having lost my temper and shouted at her and for security, which scared the girls more, but I simply lost my rag after repeated attempts to ask her to wait while
we finished changing, and then she was so aggressive. I’ve had to explain to the girls what racist means and how It was nothing to do with race, but I’m mortified my DD and her friend saw me raise my voice and shout at her to move away from the civil cubicle. WWYHD in that situation? My gut tells me I handled it badly but it was all so sudden and intense and I think my fear turned into anger ☹️

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Dery · 27/10/2024 23:11

Doesn’t sound to me like you did anything wrong. The other woman turned it into a horrible scene, not you.

Moveoverdarlin · 27/10/2024 23:11

I don’t think you did anything wrong at all. Sounds like a frightening situation.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/10/2024 23:11

That woman seemed absolutely horrid. What a nutjob.

Londonrach1 · 27/10/2024 23:12

You didn't sound to have done anything wrong. Woman sounds awful. Hope you ok

Ponoka7 · 27/10/2024 23:12

You did nothing wrong. I'd have taken it to a much more embarrassing level.

YourTwinklyDeer · 27/10/2024 23:14

I would have struggled to kept my cool in that situation.

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:15

Really? Thank you so much. I am beating myself up for shouting in front of the girls
which I never do and it scared them more at the time ☹️

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Lavender14 · 27/10/2024 23:15

I think ultimately you did what you had to do to protect two children in a vulnerable position from a stranger. I fully understand the woman being worried about her dds jacket but there were many other ways she could have approached that and tbh I'd have found that really intimidating if I was stuck in a cubicle with ds in that position unable to close the door. At that point adrenaline probably kicked in a bit.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/10/2024 23:15

Lunatic. Did she find out what happened to her jacket?

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:16

Re: what happened with her jacket I’ve no idea, it certainly wasn’t in the cubicle when we went into it, and we left rapidly as you can imagine

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DragonGypsyDoris · 27/10/2024 23:19

A bit off topic, but taking someone else's child into a cubicle to change with you is just weird. Children of that age can change themselves (unless additional needs obvs). I don't want my child to be naked with another adult, even if a mother.

pearldiamond · 27/10/2024 23:20

You did nothing wrong .

The girls won't be traumatised for life. In fact, it's a good thing they saw you sticking up for yourself when you were half naked!!

Hate people who pull the race card - makes them look like irrational idiots.

TheHighPriestess1 · 27/10/2024 23:21

DragonGypsyDoris · 27/10/2024 23:19

A bit off topic, but taking someone else's child into a cubicle to change with you is just weird. Children of that age can change themselves (unless additional needs obvs). I don't want my child to be naked with another adult, even if a mother.

its a bit weird that you even think that way

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/10/2024 23:21

DragonGypsyDoris · 27/10/2024 23:19

A bit off topic, but taking someone else's child into a cubicle to change with you is just weird. Children of that age can change themselves (unless additional needs obvs). I don't want my child to be naked with another adult, even if a mother.

She's not going to leave the child alone in the dressing room to fend for herself. Yes, it is off topic. She's looking for reassurance after being attacked by a madwoman.

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:22

DragonGypsyDoris · 27/10/2024 23:19

A bit off topic, but taking someone else's child into a cubicle to change with you is just weird. Children of that age can change themselves (unless additional needs obvs). I don't want my child to be naked with another adult, even if a mother.

Respectfully I disagree, it’s a general changing village so men and women all walking around and some not part of a family and I wouldn’t want my daughter’s friend alone in a different cubicle. She also happens to have some motor difficulties so struggles to get dressed after swimming when you’re a bit wet and everything feels rushed so she always changes with us and I just turn the other way when she gets dressed and only help if asked to. Her mum is fine with this so definitely no weirdness there.

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Sweepsthepillowclean · 27/10/2024 23:23

You did absolutely nothing wrong OP x

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:23

pearldiamond · 27/10/2024 23:20

You did nothing wrong .

The girls won't be traumatised for life. In fact, it's a good thing they saw you sticking up for yourself when you were half naked!!

Hate people who pull the race card - makes them look like irrational idiots.

Thank you 🤍I must say it was hard doing it all half dressed 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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SwingTheMonkey · 27/10/2024 23:23

You didn’t do anything wrong.

But how do 8 year olds not know what racism means? We’re a white family from the South West but my kids know what racism means.

Kendodd · 27/10/2024 23:25

Your swimming pool has security guards?

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:26

SwingTheMonkey · 27/10/2024 23:23

You didn’t do anything wrong.

But how do 8 year olds not know what racism means? We’re a white family from the South West but my kids know what racism means.

I’m not sure 🤷‍♀️they’ve heard the term in school as part of awareness raising along with other discriminating terms, but haven’t seen it used in real life as an accusation and given I wasn’t being racist they were confused by why she kept telling me I am, hence the chat about racism in its different forms on way home.

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blahblahblahhhhh · 27/10/2024 23:26

This made me think of going swimming (6 weeks postpartum) with my 8 year old DD. It was the first time I’d left newborn and had 1-1 time with 8yo.

we were showering off after swimming and I had her conditioning her (very long and knotty) hair. A woman got in my face, (while we showered!) threatened me and shouted at me as she wanted my shower for her kids. If she had said kids are freezing/waiting etc politely I’d have gladly shared with my 8yo but she was so horrible I just wanted to cry. I refused to move and she continued shouting at me.

they had been rough and loud in the pool, swearing and kids not v well supervised. She couldn’t understand why we needed to wash hair after the pool, called us tramps and said we must be too poor to shower at home. My little 8yo looking on and all I could say was no! When she tried to get into shower I was in and told me to move.

I bloody wish I had reacted like you OP and shouted/told her off. I am glad I stood my ground but I just felt utter panic and wanted the ground to swallow me up.

the girls will have learned not to let people be rude and invade their space when they are in a vulnerable position and that it’s okay to stand up for themselves!!

Fullmooncomfort · 27/10/2024 23:27

Kendodd · 27/10/2024 23:25

Your swimming pool has security guards?

It’s part of a huge leisure centre and there are security guards in it as it’s so large so yes 🤷‍♀️

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Amybelle88 · 27/10/2024 23:28

You handled it extremely well - much calmer than I would have been!

Please stop giving yourself shit - you've done nothing wrong xx