The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

[prestatynprlck]

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

You should move to Vienna OP, a place where social housing is as commonplace as Tory whingers on MN. Then you wouldn't feel so deprived and upset that you may not get a handout to buy a house. There are many people in this country who'd be thrilled to be in your place with a secure tenancy. They can't find anywhere affordable, partly due to the majority of social housing having been sold to private buyers. Many of these formerly council-owned homes are now rented out at extortionate rents so that the renters cover the now owners mortgage. Do you think this is a good system for social cohesion? It is not.

How are people eating on £9 a week? ….. oh, google gov.uk explains

What you'll get
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support
You’ll be given:
somewhere to live
£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals)
You will not be given:
the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live
any money
Extra money for mothers and young children
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Your situationExtra payment per week
Pregnant mother
£5.25
Baby under 1 year old
£9.50
Child aged 1 to 3
£5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Applying for the maternity grant
You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum.
You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support.
If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.

Can you just swop with your mum (not sure if thats allowed). Gives her a downsize and you a property can raise a family in.

My mum lives in a three bedroomed council house and has asked to downsize and she has been told no.

This is because all the fuckers in one-bedroom flats that she could downsized to have bought them at giveaway prices.

(How big was that flat you were planning to buy, OP? )

YAB beyond U @prestatynprlck.
Have a word with yourself.

they get as above £8.86 per week if their b & b is paid - for phone credit, toiletries, travel, clothes…

£49.18 - on a payment card - if they need to feed themselves too.

no one can feed themselves on £9 per week.

it’s all still very basic.

You've benefitted from council housing which probably clouds your view a bit. I am a private tenant & have been for 12 years - I contacted the council recently & was told for a home in my area there are over 8000 people waiting. For one council area. Because I am 'adequately housed' I am no priority & therefore stuck spending ££££ on a private let and hoping that my daughter can get through the next 6 years at school before I need to move/am evicted. The issue is the the majority of housing stock was sold off so there are very very limited homes available. I can't save for a deposit as my home is expensive to rent, I'm trapped here as my daughter is settled at school & I do like the area but it is outwith my reach to ever buy. I would honestly be on cloud 9 if I could have a council flat but I've more chance of winning the lottery. I wish I had benefitted from the right to buy scheme previously, but I hate that there's no housing left for people like me now. I'm glad they're stopping it.

Where are you living? Where in the UK can a single person on 30k get a council flat all to themselves. Where I live people in your circumstances are either sharing a private rental, in a HMO, or living with parents, or maybe stretched to buying after staying with parents to save or if very lucky to have had family help.

It’s not enough, is it.

They should get more, for having got here, right?

Do you seriously not understand this concept?

Yes you can, you get to use it when you reach a certain age

Proof for this ridiculous statement?

No they don't. Stop making up rubbish.

If there is no housing available then people don't get housed, simple as that. People have been on waiting lists for years. They don't have to house people in a specific borough either unless there is some kind of medical need to be in that area. I have literally been through the entire process myself.

Councils can assist you in finding a private rent. That is not the same thing as a "council flat." That is just renting privately. And they will not pay benefits over the LHA. The council does not pay housing benefit any more either except in certain specific circumstances like pensioners, housing is all claimed through Universal Credit.

Honestly OP, I know it doesn't feel like it because the housing situation in this country is fucked - but you are in a fortunate position. You wouldn't even qualify for social housing in most areas.

I've been renting from a private landlord at market rates for 15 years!!

I’m confused how this relates to your lifetime ISA? Why can’t you use it?

I'm interested in how a single person with a job and degree became a council tenant?

Anyone can apply for social housing usually, it's not just for those with kids. How quickly you are housed depends on the demand in your area and how great they assess your needs for it.

You just don’t know what’s really happening.

That assumes the value goes up

You've proven already that you don't by thinking that council flats are rented through private landlords!

Council housing is an asset which is publicly-owned and has a value. If someone is allowed to buy the asset at a discount to its true value then the public (all of us) are not worse off.

Who do you think funds the discount?

Well i joined the list when i was 19 and continued living at home until i was 25 when i was finally offered a flat. I was a student and working part time when i got it .

You're complaining you can't get a half price flat??

Families with three kids can’t get social housing where I live. You’re unbelievably fortunate.

To be honest, you're not giving the impression that you know either, if any of your previous comments are anything to go by.