The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

[prestatynprlck]

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

Exactly.
Social housing isn't meant to give people an asset. Just a roof over their head.
Also land is finite. How they houses be built indefinitely? The maths ain't mathing.

@prestatynprlck i was on a salary around the same as yours and brought a house on a not dissimilar price range, while i was privately renting. i think your actually not in a bad position and sounds like a pity party, as something you wanted to do is being taken away. I don’t agree with RTB while housing stocks aren’t being maintained.

Grandads not wrong ….. it’s happening across UK.

you prob can’t get him care when he needs it as social care too busy … call your local social & ask what’s changed in past 5 years …

We bought a v expensive ex council flat in London around 18 years ago.

When we got the deeds we saw that the person we bought it from had bought from the council directly at a very cheap price, far below market rate. She bought another property and rented out her newly-bought council flat at maximum rate (she crammed 3 individual tenants into a 2 bed flat). She didn't even want to live in it! Then ppl she rented to left it in a right state.

She sold it as soon as she was able and made £100,000s profit. I presume she bought even more property after that.

If property is being sold off below market rate then you're basically inviting individuals to profiteer at the public's expense, even more so in expensive areas.

Right to buy absolutely has to go. The state subsidising people buying a house has decimated social housing and is a huge part of the housing crisis. As a taxpayer I absolutely do not want to subsidise your house purchase.

They're politicians, aren't they?!

How would you be subsidising my house purchase?

FFS
So much ignorance on this thread.
They definitely need to sort the education system out!

Saving to buy is like dieting. Need motivation and be willing to sacrifice some “enjoyment”

Like many other people, why not you?

how does a single woman, with no children, on £30,000 even qualify for council housing? Families are being (if they're 'lucky' ) housed in shared housing.

let alone RTB ay 50%???

Good enough for Angela Rayner though? It is hypercritical.

It wouldn’t be if you bought it either. Right to buy should have been abolished by the last Labour government - or better still never have been started in the first place.

because the council are selling off assets for 50% less than the market value. They will then need to replenish the housing stock at full value, cost covered by the public purse.

Exactly. You’d think a graduate would be able to work that out for themselves.

What’s crazy … my friends sister, 27 yrs old. Becomes pregnant, she has job which doesn’t pay well. Baby dad not in picture, she was in house share. She needs a “council flat”, in Kensington …. A proper mum and baby flat. The council pays for her be in a private landlord, lovely flat — completely unaffordable except for maybe a banker. She’s laughing - look at my council flat!!!!! She got a better flat than her older sister who has really good job, could never afford preg sister flat.
She can stay forever, in millionaire flat. On benefits.
Council must keep her “in Borough” … the economics of that are crazy. I understand the keeping her in borough. But could house 6 families for same rent few miles away in another council.

system doesn’t make economic sense.

I agree the Labour Party are hypocrites - they always have been. Claim they’re for the working classes but all as corrupt and feeding from the trough as any other party. Look at Starmer and his £100k freebies - anyone with an ounce of integrity would’ve turned that down just because of the sheer crookedness of it. But no. Didn’t even cross his mind…

Baffling.

But you yourself are a hypocrite op. And that’s the problem. People want taxpayer support to get a leg up, but then they’re ’I’m alright Jack’ and pull up the drawbridge. Every right to buy is another chip off the social housing stock. Some things need to be for the greater good and not sold off and privatised, even if it’s costly. We need a basic safety net for everyone.

Then you don’t buy the average house. You buy a smaller house. I bought my own place when I earned £27k. It was a one bed flat as that’s all I could afford.

My friend's sister's husband's neice is living in a mansion opposite Hyde Park. She has a kid, twelve cats, three budgies and a boa constrictor. All paid for by benefits. She got a free Mercedes too because she pretends she can't walk.

Madness.

YABU, OP and I live in social housing. We should not be able to buy these properties. When I pass away I would like mine to go to somebody in need, just like it went to me when I was homeless with a baby. I'm very grateful to have my property.

Well she won't be able to stay "on benefits" forever when her child grows up, will she.

YABVU. Count your blessings.

Do you think they will ask her to leave when child is 18? 25? Out of education? Do they do that? … evict long term tenants? Is there any incentive for her to get off benefits ?

I’ll keep an eye on situation and let you know.

I'm sure many more of us could afford to buy properties if the price of them was slashed in half, but such is life. I'm struggling to understand why people lucky enough to be in a council property should be able to benefit from this windfall at society's expense when everyone else has to pay market price.

Lots of people move back in with their mums to save for a deposit, by the way.

Yabu about not wanting rtb to be scrapped. A lot of people have profited massively from the scheme. But Yanbu about labelling Labour hypocrites. They always have been. It’s a case of do what I say, not as I do.

RTB is seriously outdated and should have been abolished decades ago. It’s a shame for you OP that something you were expecting/hoping for isn’t going to happen, but legislation changes.

Angela Rayner (who I don’t particularly like) and her situation is really neither here nor there.