AIBU to hope 'Tommy Robinson' finally faces some consequences?

[Locutus2000]

Arrested ahead of the London march.

Key instigator of the riots the other month.

The hint is in the title - National Socialists. The ideology was racist socialism. But I appreciate that Nazis are more commonly associated with what we now refer to as far right, because ultimately all fascism is totalitarian. The Nazis leftism didn't last for very long. It was the bait that they used to drive Germany into their clutches, but importantly, they were leftists when they were aggregating their power.

So clear from that little diatribe that you are so much more intelligent than anyone else on this thread.....

Yup, Zionist, Jew supporter Tommy is Hitler..Jew hating Hitler..make it make sense.

I only need to be more intelligent than you.

Which I clearly am.

Take a seat.

Moron's Tiny Mob is a skidmark on the underpants of humanity. Odious little man.

But you know your history. You know that the Third Reich was entirely fascist in character. A couple of months after their inception, Hitler brought in the Enabling Act and kicked out the lefties, Jews and trade unionists from the civil service and outlawed them.

Fascism always has been a far right ideology that fundamentally believes in a natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites whereas Communism is ruled by the people.

Tommy Lennon doesn't give a flying fuck about abused children, he uses them for his grift.🙄

I think that was pretty obvious when he piled on the bullied 15 year old Jamal Hijazi. The poor boy was tormented by racist bullies and Robinson added to his distress. He hasn't stopped harassing him. To claim he cares about children is ludicrous when he relentlessly torments a traumatised child.

This, and feel the same.

I think you are giving him a little too much credit to say he was the instigator of the riots in summer. He was to some amount, and certainly those who share some of his views massively influenced things, but I don’t think he holds that much power to have instigated national riots on that scale in a small time frame by himself, whatever he or the media want you to think.

I expect he’ll have another custodial sentence after his next court appearance, but all that will do is further his agenda and ‘prove’ his alleged persecution to his followers.

But do you honestly believe that communism is ruled by the people? It's about power under the guise of equality. Recommend the Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn.

I don’t know if anyone answered you but there’s different expectations under the Terrorism Act. So he’s not been arrested and charged under that act purely because he failed to provide his PIN, but because he was already under investigation under the act and failing to surrender his PIN is an offence, if you see what I mean.

That's certainly their philosophy.

Pretending to be "leftist" to get into power doesn't make you a leftist, having socialist in your party title doesn't make it socialist, and having democratic in your country's name doesn't make it democratic. Actions make reality, not words.

Power and/or money hungry people, like SYL know how manipulate people and will lie to achieve their aims. That's why it's important to watch what they do, not what they say. SYL, for example, claims to hate child groomers, yet was happy to associate and defend convicted paedophiles when it suited his plans.

The fact that many of his supporters don't know this, overlook it or attempt to justify it shows they've no interest in rational discussion or logic. They're driven purely by emotion and that's what makes them so dangerous; as we saw with the unrest earlier this year.

roaringmouse · Yesterday 22:15

Far left fascism is more common throughout the world and has killed more than 25 million people in the last century.

The Nazis killed more Russians and Soviets than that in 4 short years. And that's not counting 6 million Jews and six million others, in the death camps.

That's not to say that Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were good guys, of course. It's not a scorecard of eveil.

roaringmouse · Yesterday 22:15

and a way to bypass the need to scrutinise what's actually being said.
Let's not forget that Nazis were the nationalist socialists - and a real example of far left fascism.

Oh please! Not that ridiculous old canard again! You do realise that they just included the word socialist, to get support away from the left in Germany? In a period of mass unemployment and hunger. They were about as socialist as Donald Trump.

Do you also believe that East Germany was a democratic republic? Or that North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic?

I mean, they must be, right? It's in their names and everything.

I've not voted because it isn't clear what is being asked.

sashh · Today 04:20

I've not voted because it isn't clear what is being asked.

Surely it's entirely unambiguous? I'm not sure that it can be explained in simpler terms:

to hope 'Tommy Robinson' finally faces some consequences?

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Arrested ahead of the London march.
Key instigator of the riots the other month.

Consequences in general? For the riots? For the London march he can't attend? For previous behaviour?

What consequences? A fine? Time in prison?

why because we dont agree with your views l dont see him as a thug in my opinion he speaks the truth every weekend Palestinian marches shouting from the river to the sea and we all know what that means but they can scream what they want so why cant Tommy say what he feels

Anyone who founded the EDL and was an NF supporter is not a good person

I only wish the justice system was in better shape so that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon can face justice for his crimes soon.

See it’s just if you look at the headlines it specifically says charged under the terrorism act over the phone pin?

Consequences in general? For the riots? For the London march he can't attend? For previous behaviour?

What consequences? A fine? Time in prison?

Yes.

It's what that mobile phone pin is hiding that the police are interested in. He's been inciting people to all sorts, right wing terror is no different to other sorts of terrorist acts.

If he's got nothing to hide, then he should hand his phone over like a good citizen & get on with his day. But he won't will he, because he's shitting himself over the contents of his phone.