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LorettyTen · 25/10/2024 19:49

@HarkALark
Then it's surprising you replied to my comment at all.

SallyWD · 25/10/2024 19:49

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I'm not saying it's Tommy's fault but they share the same views. It's all about Muslims =grooming gangs, child abuse and terrorism. Asylum seekers are illegal frauds who are a threat to our women and children. These views have become so widespread. Certain groups in society are becoming dehumanised and othered with this language. Perfectly innocent and decent people are being attacked. Think about Nazi Germany and how Jews were dehumanised and blamed for all the problems in society. It's so dangerous. We have to fight against it.

newnamethanks · 25/10/2024 19:50

It's not YLs fault? It may not be his 'fault' in your view but it is certainly his intention.

GentleFinch · 25/10/2024 19:57

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Shakeoffyourchains · 25/10/2024 19:59

Babbadoobabbadock · 25/10/2024 18:39

Tommy ten names with his Irish passport ?

That's the one, the one who hates migrants but lives in Spain and was arrested in Canada for immigration offences.

The one who's a "stand up guy, telling it like it is" but has convictions for fraud, assault and harassment and knowingly associates with paedophiles.

It really is amazing what some people are willing to overlook just because someone the person says things that align with their prejudice isn't it?

Locutus2000 · 25/10/2024 20:03

Shakeoffyourchains · 25/10/2024 19:59

That's the one, the one who hates migrants but lives in Spain and was arrested in Canada for immigration offences.

The one who's a "stand up guy, telling it like it is" but has convictions for fraud, assault and harassment and knowingly associates with paedophiles.

It really is amazing what some people are willing to overlook just because someone the person says things that align with their prejudice isn't it?

It really is amazing what some people are willing to overlook just because someone the person says things that align with their prejudice isn't it?

God, just look at things across the pond.

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Todaywasbetter · 25/10/2024 20:22

Reform wrote to every Tory councillor in England offering them the chance to move to a more successful party. I think one of them did. Farage Yaxley 2 wealthy men who speak for the working class. jokes

suburberphobe · 25/10/2024 20:27

I often confuse Yaxley-Lennon and Tate.

Same shit. Different guys. Both scary. Misogynists. Far Right. Tate is a rapist.

NeelyOHara1 · 25/10/2024 20:30

I watched that documentary by Hope Not Hate on C4 and came to the conclusion that for TR/SYL and those like him at heart it's a money making exercise first and foremost with the added hope that they will be part of "an elite" and get to make even more money and throw their weight around as an added bonus. That they latch onto and taint any actual legitimate concerns just makes everything worse, not that they care.

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2024 20:43

Some one is funding YL, he probably doesn't even believe the hate he spews.
He probably has plenty of roubles squirreled away

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2024 20:48

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

Its possible to hate both paedos AND racists you know, its not a binary situation

GetTheFormDone · 25/10/2024 20:54

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

A race to the bottom of competing pond life. Wonderful.

Shakeoffyourchains · 25/10/2024 21:02

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

You mean like the ones he chummed around with in the EDL, or the ones whose trials he’s almost collapsed?

SallyWD · 25/10/2024 21:07

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

Right - so we don't go for peado rings and racist idiots?
What kind of logic is that? Oh don't arrest that man who just mugged an old lady because yesterday a different man killed an old lady. Don't go for the man who who raped a woman, another man just raped two women. Doesn't make sense, does it?

User37482 · 25/10/2024 21:07

SallyWD · 25/10/2024 19:49

I'm not saying it's Tommy's fault but they share the same views. It's all about Muslims =grooming gangs, child abuse and terrorism. Asylum seekers are illegal frauds who are a threat to our women and children. These views have become so widespread. Certain groups in society are becoming dehumanised and othered with this language. Perfectly innocent and decent people are being attacked. Think about Nazi Germany and how Jews were dehumanised and blamed for all the problems in society. It's so dangerous. We have to fight against it.

To be fair grooming gangs are still active according to Maggie Oliver, there are over 40,000 (islamists) people on terrorism watchlists. There are serious problems. Tommy Robinson being what he is doesn’t mean there aren’t problems.

I’m not white and I consider the grooming gangs to be one of the most heartbreaking things I have ever heard. I don’t like to see crimes against children being minimised in the pursuit of anti-racism. I don’t feel threatened by talk of grooming gangs because I’d dob any bastard in if I thought they were doing something like that.

CoatRack · 25/10/2024 21:12

Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon!) is LITERALLY Hitler.

I am shaking right now, I tell you.

SallyWD · 25/10/2024 21:19

User37482 · 25/10/2024 21:07

To be fair grooming gangs are still active according to Maggie Oliver, there are over 40,000 (islamists) people on terrorism watchlists. There are serious problems. Tommy Robinson being what he is doesn’t mean there aren’t problems.

I’m not white and I consider the grooming gangs to be one of the most heartbreaking things I have ever heard. I don’t like to see crimes against children being minimised in the pursuit of anti-racism. I don’t feel threatened by talk of grooming gangs because I’d dob any bastard in if I thought they were doing something like that.

I don't think any of us would minimise the issue of grooming gangs. It's utterly despicable. What I dislike is the fact that many people are trying to claim it's primarily a Muslim problem. According to a Home Office report, the vast majority of grooming gangs are white. Why is this never reported by the Daily Mail or mentioned by Nigel Farage? Why do we see Tommy Robinson supporters smashing up mosques because of grooming gangs and because they are so concerned about women and children - yet they are completely silent when white men abuse women and children? This is what I object to. I read recently that per capita, there are actually more white pedophiles than Muslim pedophiles but Tommy Robinson would never dream of mentioning this. People don't realise they're being manipulated by the right wing media and agitators. They just blindly believe that Muslims are more likely to be paedophiles because Tommy says so.
All grooming gangs are disgusting but I don't like them being used as a tool to demonise all Muslims.

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2024 21:20

CoatRack · 25/10/2024 21:12

Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon!) is LITERALLY Hitler.

I am shaking right now, I tell you.

I am not sure you understand what the word "literally" means

roaringmouse · 25/10/2024 22:15

username1478 · 25/10/2024 19:21

There are a lot of far right people on MN, bizarrely.

What is it that people mean by the inclusion of the word 'far' in this context? Far in relation to what? The centre? If yes, where and what is the centre in the UK currently?

Using the word 'far' is often just a way of 'othering' people whose views are disagreeable. It's just another version of ad hominem attack and a way to bypass the need to scrutinise what's actually being said.

Let's not forget that Nazis were the nationalist socialists - and a real example of far left fascism. Look only as far as the Soviet Union and the CCP for more recent examples.

Far left fascism is more common throughout the world and has killed more than 25 million people in the last century.

All by way of saying let's not be too comfortable with the far left either!

username1478 · 25/10/2024 22:23

roaringmouse · 25/10/2024 22:15

What is it that people mean by the inclusion of the word 'far' in this context? Far in relation to what? The centre? If yes, where and what is the centre in the UK currently?

Using the word 'far' is often just a way of 'othering' people whose views are disagreeable. It's just another version of ad hominem attack and a way to bypass the need to scrutinise what's actually being said.

Let's not forget that Nazis were the nationalist socialists - and a real example of far left fascism. Look only as far as the Soviet Union and the CCP for more recent examples.

Far left fascism is more common throughout the world and has killed more than 25 million people in the last century.

All by way of saying let's not be too comfortable with the far left either!

Are you trying to convince me that the Nazi's were far left? That's made my day.

A definition of the far right is available online, although you're right some far right policies are creeping into mainstream politics.

Examples of far right ideology is calling for the UK to be devoid of immigrants or asylum seekers, like the thug who stabbed the asylum seeker or the thugs who tried to burn asylum seekers alive.

I don't think either the far left eg Stalin or the far right, eg Hitler is good.

dermalermalurd · 25/10/2024 22:40

millymollymoomoo · 25/10/2024 18:20

He’s actually quite reasoned if you listen to what he says rather than the hype spouted about him by the left.

Twotier policing and justice as always

He's a knuckle dragging, self-piteous, limited little moron.

Ringpeace · 25/10/2024 22:42

Oh sweet Christ, the dullards are here claiming the Nazis were "far left".

Last night there was someone on here wanting sympathy because her "vocally anti-immigration" husband was "hassled" by Antifa.

Fucking Hell, is there a factory churning out these idiots?

dermalermalurd · 25/10/2024 22:44

Taishan · 25/10/2024 20:47

There are far worse walking our streets, than Tommy Robinson.
Let him be.
Go for the pedo rings.

Whataboutery at its finest. It's not one or the other, we can scrape racist scum like Yaxley Lennon off our streets as well as child abusers.

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