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Don't argue with the traffic warden on your school run

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Bag4Lyfey · 25/10/2024 08:52

It made me laugh yesterday as 3 of the Mums driving stupidly big cars received parking tickets outside the school dates. They work on the safety lines that are outside schools and they only live a 7 minute walk from school and also don't work (I know of them). They came out and tried to argue their way out of the tickets saying "what? A parking ticket for dropping my kid off at school?"

I think it serves them right. I've parked on a single yellow near the school in a mega rush so I'm no angel but if you do that you accept that there is a chance you will get a ticket and can't complain if you get one can you!!?

Just made me laugh it was the 4x4 cars from the professional yummy mummies who all got them and then wanted to argue, talk about entitlement! Plus if you have a big car then surely a parking ticket is affordable?! That's part of the illusion of wealth is that you don't care!

Needless to say the areas are clear today so they've learned their lesson, for now at least! X

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Healingsfall · 25/10/2024 23:54

BarbaraHoward · 25/10/2024 23:46

He isn't paying. They are paying.

Yes if he leaves or dies their circumstances will change but that's true for me too with my full time job in a professional career. Until that happens, they have joint finances.

I'm not jealous of SAHMs , I made an active choice to continue working when we could have afforded for me to stop when DCs came along. But painting them as being beholden to their husbands is very unfair and does generations of women a disservice IMO.

I'm talking about women in these big cars looking down their noses at those they perceive as beneath them whilst relying on him paying. Not women who are jointly working along with their husband's who are humble enough to not turn their nose up at people.

Tbh the more money I earn the more bag lady I look 😄 I drive a 15 year old car, its reliable and I'm just not into cars so it gets me from a to b. I can afford a brand new fancy car all by myself with no help from a man, but not interested, so its bizarre and funny when certain women look down their nose whilst driving their big cars on the money their husband's are earning.

BarbaraHoward · 25/10/2024 23:58

BalletCat · 25/10/2024 23:49

Sorry but I don't see a wife using her husband's money to pay for something as her paying for it

It's. Her. Money. Too.

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:01

BarbaraHoward · 25/10/2024 23:58

It's. Her. Money. Too.

On his conditions whilst they are together.

BarbaraHoward · 26/10/2024 00:03

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:01

On his conditions whilst they are together.

They're married. That's the condition.

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:06

BarbaraHoward · 26/10/2024 00:03

They're married. That's the condition.

Then if they split, he still has his wages and she has what? She wouldn't even have the car anymore. This is why so many women are stuck in really shit relationships.

BarbaraHoward · 26/10/2024 00:08

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:06

Then if they split, he still has his wages and she has what? She wouldn't even have the car anymore. This is why so many women are stuck in really shit relationships.

They haven't split though, they're married. All the money belongs to both of them.

And if they did split, the car in her name that had been paid for with marital assets? Would likely remain her own.

lavendarwillow · 26/10/2024 00:13

I cannot understand the amount of parents I see who park as close to the school as possible. My local primary is a no through road so parents are having to turn around too and it's absolute chaos. Why not park further away? So many children crossing the road, little kids slip their parent's hands and have no road safety awareness. Why you would want to risk running a child over, it's madness.

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:13

BarbaraHoward · 26/10/2024 00:08

They haven't split though, they're married. All the money belongs to both of them.

And if they did split, the car in her name that had been paid for with marital assets? Would likely remain her own.

And this is supposedly being a move in the right direction in terms of the women's movements over the past few generations as said in previous comments

justasking111 · 26/10/2024 01:10

lavendarwillow · 26/10/2024 00:13

I cannot understand the amount of parents I see who park as close to the school as possible. My local primary is a no through road so parents are having to turn around too and it's absolute chaos. Why not park further away? So many children crossing the road, little kids slip their parent's hands and have no road safety awareness. Why you would want to risk running a child over, it's madness.

It is frightening. Children are involved in accidents around the school gates sometimes very seriously.

What car someone drives is irrelevant, all vehicles can kill

LlynTegid · 26/10/2024 07:04

I'd we really did something even as modest as I proposed a few pages back, no doubt some would see it as a war on the motorist and claim their human rights were being violated.

Completelyjo · 26/10/2024 08:12

BalletCat · 25/10/2024 23:49

Sorry but I don't see a wife using her husband's money to pay for something as her paying for it

Well plenty of people would argue that they don’t see separate finances as a marriage but rather room mates.

You’re entitled to your life and others are entitled to yours, it doesn’t mean yours is right.

Completelyjo · 26/10/2024 08:15

Healingsfall · 26/10/2024 00:06

Then if they split, he still has his wages and she has what? She wouldn't even have the car anymore. This is why so many women are stuck in really shit relationships.

No that’s not how it works.
If they split then all their assets would be split equally as a starting point because the law doesn’t view it as his house or his car.

Pussycat22 · 26/10/2024 08:26

sharpclawedkitten, big daft cars !!!!!😆

Pussycat22 · 26/10/2024 08:27

PersephonePotts well they'll have plenty to discuss!!

GoldenPheasant · 26/10/2024 09:12

I live in a road near a school where there used to be free parking, and it was a bit of a free-for-all around school times. Then the council took a local vote and made it residential permit parking. I voted against, mostly because I thought the benefits of free parking for us and our guests outweighed the minor inconvenience of school times. The change has certainly improved the school situation, especially since the traffic wardens worked out the best times for issuing tickets. However, now the residents who voted for it are furious when they or their visitors get ticketed. I have to admit to having limited sympathy.

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 10:59

Healingsfall · 25/10/2024 23:40

It's always conditional if he's paying. Yes they "own" stuff, but only if the status quo stays as he wishes. I'm an independent woman, as in everything in my house is mine and my house is mine and no one can take that away from me. I used to rely on a man when I was younger, but one thing I've learnt is never allow a man to own something he can take away from you. Never again. So yes they "own" their cars, but it's conditional.

Perhaps you don't live in the UK. Here is a couple are married then all assets cars, house, pensions, savings are owned by both people. In the event of a separation those assets are shared equally. In the case of a woman not working the assets are even shared in her favour some of the time.

It is ridiculous to suggest that a parent who is not employed out of the home is not financially contributing to it. Without their labour the costs of running the house will increase and not every job outside the home pays enough to cover those costs.

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 11:12

BalletCat · 25/10/2024 23:41

It's fine if women don't want to work, it's the assumption that those of us that earn our own money are jealous of women who have it given to them that is irritating. Someone driving a massive car they didn't earn or buy for themself is not to be envied in my opinion.

The accusations of jealousy, not just in this thread but in most threads on Mumsnet are just a way of shutting women down, just pull the jealous card out to shut them up because you don't like what they're saying. I find it reductive that people seem to think all of womens disagreements or judgements are due to jealousy.

None of us are jealous of the women driving massive cars, parking them badly and having a go at parking wardens when they could just walk instead. We find their behaviour selfish and annoying as it has a negative impact on the rest of the school. To claim we are only judging them out of jealousy is silly.

There is not a single person person on this thread who has said that these women have the right to park where they like. There has been a unanimous agreement that parking like a dick outside a school makes you a dick.

But the OP didn't really want to make a post just about parking like a dick. Because everyone agrees parking like a dick makes you a dick. So it (not so) surreptitiously, became a post designed to belittle and slag off women who choose (or who have found themselves) living a different lifestyle. And then posters like you expanded on this theme.

You may not be jealous, but then I'd question why you felt the need to mention any of these things. Is a man with a short back and sides, driving a plumbers van parking like a dick outside a school less of a dick than a woman with a swishy pony-tail in a Land Rover? What motivated all of the "yummy-mummy" chat? I believe you when you say it's not jealousy. So own the emotion that drove your comments.

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 11:20

Also have a little think about why it's ok for women to perform domestic labour outside of their home for pay but they do it inside their home they are receiving "free" money from their husbands.

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 11:38

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 11:20

Also have a little think about why it's ok for women to perform domestic labour outside of their home for pay but they do it inside their home they are receiving "free" money from their husbands.

You can look at it as the husband either paying her for her domestic work or the fact that when you perform work for someone else it is a service but when you perform it for yourself it's not a service it's just running your own life.

People make beautiful things and sell them on Etsy, obviously no one's going to pay you to make something for yourself though even though it took the same amount of time and material costs.

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 11:52

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 11:12

There is not a single person person on this thread who has said that these women have the right to park where they like. There has been a unanimous agreement that parking like a dick outside a school makes you a dick.

But the OP didn't really want to make a post just about parking like a dick. Because everyone agrees parking like a dick makes you a dick. So it (not so) surreptitiously, became a post designed to belittle and slag off women who choose (or who have found themselves) living a different lifestyle. And then posters like you expanded on this theme.

You may not be jealous, but then I'd question why you felt the need to mention any of these things. Is a man with a short back and sides, driving a plumbers van parking like a dick outside a school less of a dick than a woman with a swishy pony-tail in a Land Rover? What motivated all of the "yummy-mummy" chat? I believe you when you say it's not jealousy. So own the emotion that drove your comments.

Annoyance is the motivating emotion, as mentioned previously it is very common behaviour here and it's bloody irritating.

A man driving a plumbers van parking like a dick is also an issue, but I don't see that at the school gates ever. I have never been inconvenienced by a plumber so have no reason to complain. However I see many ridiculous SUVs fighting over the road and the space outside the village school every single day and they're all so blindingly shiny it's clear they haven't been anywhere a field. Which makes it clear it is an unnecessary status symbol which serves no real purpose it just makes it harder for anyone else to get around them or find space for their own, average sized cars. This is a stereotype that is seen at most schools in middle class areas, it's overwhelmingly the yummy mummy types hence the many posters also complaining about them.

I have a truck for the farm and a small car for driving round town because trying to fit a truck into most places in town is a nightmare. When I park my small car in a parking space with an empty space either side, I return to find a land rover each side and they are that bloody huge I can't open my doors. So I have to leave my baby parked with the brake on next to the car, reverse a few feet then get her in. It's unsafe and I hate doing it but have no choice, because these idiots think they have more right to the shared public space than the rest of us and it's bloody annoying! I wish they would all fuck off and buy a normal sized car!

We have farmer friends, they drive 4x4s covered in mud which are clearly needed and used for their purpose which is fine. But when half the village is clogged up by shiny Chelsea tractors that have no purpose other than to signal wealth and get in everyones way, it is incredibly annoying, especially when they are making things more dangerous for our children. Especially especially because they park like assholes more than anyone else because they have some sense of entitlement because they can afford a big car.

Trust me it's not the women I have a problem with, it's their behaviour. If it was a certain demographic of man that made my life this difficult every day I'd be complaining about them instead, but it's not.

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 11:59

Completelyjo · 26/10/2024 08:12

Well plenty of people would argue that they don’t see separate finances as a marriage but rather room mates.

You’re entitled to your life and others are entitled to yours, it doesn’t mean yours is right.

Edited

That's fine I never said my approach to finances is the only way, I just don't buy into the "women are jealous of women with rich husbandscand big cars and manicures" trope that's being trotted out to anyone who complains about the women driving the ridiculous 4x4s.

I don't care how much money they have, and neither do the rest of us who find their behaviour annoying! I certainly don't feel inferior to them when they didn't go out and earn it for themselves.

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 12:52

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 11:52

Annoyance is the motivating emotion, as mentioned previously it is very common behaviour here and it's bloody irritating.

A man driving a plumbers van parking like a dick is also an issue, but I don't see that at the school gates ever. I have never been inconvenienced by a plumber so have no reason to complain. However I see many ridiculous SUVs fighting over the road and the space outside the village school every single day and they're all so blindingly shiny it's clear they haven't been anywhere a field. Which makes it clear it is an unnecessary status symbol which serves no real purpose it just makes it harder for anyone else to get around them or find space for their own, average sized cars. This is a stereotype that is seen at most schools in middle class areas, it's overwhelmingly the yummy mummy types hence the many posters also complaining about them.

I have a truck for the farm and a small car for driving round town because trying to fit a truck into most places in town is a nightmare. When I park my small car in a parking space with an empty space either side, I return to find a land rover each side and they are that bloody huge I can't open my doors. So I have to leave my baby parked with the brake on next to the car, reverse a few feet then get her in. It's unsafe and I hate doing it but have no choice, because these idiots think they have more right to the shared public space than the rest of us and it's bloody annoying! I wish they would all fuck off and buy a normal sized car!

We have farmer friends, they drive 4x4s covered in mud which are clearly needed and used for their purpose which is fine. But when half the village is clogged up by shiny Chelsea tractors that have no purpose other than to signal wealth and get in everyones way, it is incredibly annoying, especially when they are making things more dangerous for our children. Especially especially because they park like assholes more than anyone else because they have some sense of entitlement because they can afford a big car.

Trust me it's not the women I have a problem with, it's their behaviour. If it was a certain demographic of man that made my life this difficult every day I'd be complaining about them instead, but it's not.

But you contradict your message that you don't have a problem with the women when you use belittling nick names for them and openly accuse them of spending money that doesn't belong to them. If you have a problem with larger vehicles being sold to people who have no use for them then focus on that issue - start a new thread, speak to your local MP. The minute you focus on the people and not the problem you move a step away from actually fixing the problem.

And buying a pair of earrings very occasionally is really not the same in either cost or ethical consideration as taking full responsibility for the every day care, education and socialisation of your children and the upkeep of a home in which several people live. Outsourcing the care of your children is not equal to outsourcing the production of jewellery.

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 13:39

PureBoggin · 26/10/2024 12:52

But you contradict your message that you don't have a problem with the women when you use belittling nick names for them and openly accuse them of spending money that doesn't belong to them. If you have a problem with larger vehicles being sold to people who have no use for them then focus on that issue - start a new thread, speak to your local MP. The minute you focus on the people and not the problem you move a step away from actually fixing the problem.

And buying a pair of earrings very occasionally is really not the same in either cost or ethical consideration as taking full responsibility for the every day care, education and socialisation of your children and the upkeep of a home in which several people live. Outsourcing the care of your children is not equal to outsourcing the production of jewellery.

A certain set of annoying behaviours is perpetrated by a certain type of person in many areas for the UK, that is why the stereotype exists in the first place. It's really not that deep.

You won't convince me that marrying well and then looking after a home is the same level of achievement as obtaining a degree, a masters, professional registered status and then building a career on those things and buying your own land rover. If you feel that way that's fine, but you won't convince me and I don't really understand why it matters to you if I agree with you or not.

Completelyjo · 26/10/2024 13:46

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 11:59

That's fine I never said my approach to finances is the only way, I just don't buy into the "women are jealous of women with rich husbandscand big cars and manicures" trope that's being trotted out to anyone who complains about the women driving the ridiculous 4x4s.

I don't care how much money they have, and neither do the rest of us who find their behaviour annoying! I certainly don't feel inferior to them when they didn't go out and earn it for themselves.

It’s not trotted out to everyone who complains about 4x4s but it points to jealousy when you choose to bring up “spending their husbands money” now it’s worth less because they didn’t earn it etc. it’s very odd to raise all those things if the money isn’t relevant and you don’t have an issue with it.

It’s also off to now claim it’s not the women you have an issue with but the behaviour but why have several posts ranting about how often they get manicures, or lunch, or what they wear, or what their hobbies are or how vacuous and boring all these women are?

Your posts are just judgmental and nasty.

If it was just about parking then you wouldn’t have raise all those things.

BalletCat · 26/10/2024 13:52

Completelyjo · 26/10/2024 13:46

It’s not trotted out to everyone who complains about 4x4s but it points to jealousy when you choose to bring up “spending their husbands money” now it’s worth less because they didn’t earn it etc. it’s very odd to raise all those things if the money isn’t relevant and you don’t have an issue with it.

It’s also off to now claim it’s not the women you have an issue with but the behaviour but why have several posts ranting about how often they get manicures, or lunch, or what they wear, or what their hobbies are or how vacuous and boring all these women are?

Your posts are just judgmental and nasty.

If it was just about parking then you wouldn’t have raise all those things.

Entitled behaviour displayed by people in 4x4s is more often than not perpetrated by a certain type of person at the school gates. That's it. It's really not that deep.