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Mum not coming on Halloween - irked?

454 replies

CleverAzureDreamer · 22/10/2024 16:28

My mum has just let me know she’s having her hair done on Thursday evening next week so she won’t be coming over to ours to go trick or treating and watch a spooky movie with the kids (8, 10, 12). I’m slightly irritated by this as I thought it would have been nice to have a family night dressed up and go round taking the kids trick or treating.
I’ve allowed older DS to bring a friend over to come with us so it won’t be so empty but I just found it a bit selfish for a Nan to not want to spend Halloween with the grandkids! AIBU?

OP posts:
leia24 · 22/10/2024 17:26

Doseofreality · 22/10/2024 16:57

Halloween is only interesting to 3 sets of people : -

  1. under 5 year olds
  2. students who see it as an excuse to get extra shitfaced
  3. Instahuns

Everyone else thinks it’s a load of shit.

It's also interesting to teenage girls as there are a lot of high school Halloween parties

MadMadamMum · 22/10/2024 17:26

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SophiaJ8 · 22/10/2024 17:27

leia24 · 22/10/2024 17:26

It's also interesting to teenage girls as there are a lot of high school Halloween parties

Parties, fine.

Going round doors… 😬 At 16 years old?!

harmonyhannah · 22/10/2024 17:27

I see or speak to my grandchildren almost every day. Have them for a day and night every weekend, do most of the school holiday childcare, spent every birthday with them, every Christmas, have never missed a school play or a sports day and most years go on a holiday with them. It would never occur to me in a zillion years that I "should" be spending Halloween with them. How strange?

Konfuzzled · 22/10/2024 17:27

Sounds like the actual issue is that you're put out at not getting free childcare for your 12yo and his friend.

lemonmeringueno3 · 22/10/2024 17:27

"Why on earth do you think you can dictate how she spends her time?"

Dictate? She invited her and is sad that she doesn't seem to want to come. She's anonymously asking for opinions. Where is she dictating anything?

OP, don't worry they'll all move on to whining about bonfire night soon.

And then it'll be Christmas - don't want to leave their house, don't want visitors, don't like their gift from MIL. It's regular as clockwork every year. Easter appears to be neutral but there'll be a smattering of 'GP gave them too much chocolate' I expect.

Zeld · 22/10/2024 17:28

If I tried to get my mum to the kids' Halloween party, she'd have a hairdressing appointment, a dental appointment and probably try to break her own ankle to get out of it.

It's literally never occurred to me to even ask her 😂

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 22/10/2024 17:28

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 22/10/2024 17:21

For all the English ignoramuses who know nothing about Halloween.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/ten-trick-or-treating-facts-for-impressive-bonfire-chats-1.1983165

Scotland and Ireland started tricking

"A few decades later a practice called 'guising' was in full swing in Scotland and Ireland. Short for 'disguising', children would go out from door to door dressed in costume and rather than pledging to pray, they would tell a joke, sing a song or perform another sort of "trick" in exchange for food or money.

The expression trick or treat has only been used at front doors for the last 10 to 15 years. Before that "Help the Halloween Party" seems to have been the most popular phrase to holler."

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Yes Halloween is not English, it's an Irish/Scottish cultural event and a million times more exciting for kids than that boring November 5th "penny for the guy" (burning the effigy of the catholic Guy Fawkes) English cultural event that is now dying out as its crap!!!!!

English kids wanting to do what Irish kids (me in the 80s, and my parents and their parents etc. before me) and Scottish kids have been doing for well over a century is not their fault that Halloween is bloody better than that Guy Fawkes tedium.

Edited

More ignoramuses: repeat.

Dahlia1234 · 22/10/2024 17:29

I love Halloween and I'm a Nan. If my DD wanted me to go help her with my DGC Trick or Treating and I was free, I would. HOWEVER, I would be incredibly irritated if she thought I was being unreasonable because I had a hair appointment instead! Is it possible you have crossed wires here, ie you thought it was going to be an annual thing and your mum just thought it was more a casual arrangement? You could always ask.
But no, she most definitely is NOT being unreasonable!

WearyAuldWumman · 22/10/2024 17:29

CleverAzureDreamer · 22/10/2024 16:34

She has come every year before. I don’t understand why adults can’t enjoy festivals like Halloween, Easter and even Christmas to a certain extent?

Because you get old and tired.

I'm 64. I enjoy getting guisers/trick-or-treaters at my door on Hallowe'en, but I wouldn't enjoy being coerced into spending the entire evening doing Hallowe'en activities.

JudgeJ · 22/10/2024 17:29

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/10/2024 16:55

Two 12-year-olds can't trick or treat in your neighborhood alone? Why not?

The OP is looking for excuses to be annoyed at her poor mother for not jumping high enough.

Dahlia1234 · 22/10/2024 17:30

lemonmeringueno3 · 22/10/2024 17:27

"Why on earth do you think you can dictate how she spends her time?"

Dictate? She invited her and is sad that she doesn't seem to want to come. She's anonymously asking for opinions. Where is she dictating anything?

OP, don't worry they'll all move on to whining about bonfire night soon.

And then it'll be Christmas - don't want to leave their house, don't want visitors, don't like their gift from MIL. It's regular as clockwork every year. Easter appears to be neutral but there'll be a smattering of 'GP gave them too much chocolate' I expect.

She literally said she thinks her mum is being selfish....🙄

IAKnowyou · 22/10/2024 17:30

@herecomesautumn well it's pretty self explanatory.
It seems the majority of replies on here elude to adults thinking there is simply no point in celebrating Halloween.
Or grandparents saying "I am a grandparent and I couldn't think of anything more boring"
(Than spending time with their grandchildren)
Is it really so awful to spend time with your children/grandchildren doing something THEY enjoy, even if it's not your ideal idea of fun?? It's a couple hours at most and they enjoy it so much !

MolkosTeenageAngst · 22/10/2024 17:30

lemonmeringueno3 · 22/10/2024 17:18

Gosh just seen that you are considered 'wildly unreasonable' by some.

For making Halloween into an occasion and wanting to include your mum, then posting anonymously about feeling sad that she can't come.

I don't know what comes after 'wildly unreasonable' or what behaviour might be labelled such. Maybe forgetting your carrier bags at the supermarket or sending your children to school without their PE kit.

Feeling sad would be fine, OP says she feels irritated and has called her mum selfish, that’s very different. Also has drip fed that she actually wanted her mum to go off and take the eldest child and friend around separately to OP and the younger ones so they weren’t even going to be all together anyway!

PhoebeFeels · 22/10/2024 17:30

What total American imported nonsense. I'm one of those that does not answer the door.

ginasevern · 22/10/2024 17:31

OP, are you actually the 12 year old in this scenario?

WearyAuldWumman · 22/10/2024 17:31

purplebeansprouts · 22/10/2024 16:39

Yeah the 12 year old at least should stop it's embarrassing

Older kids do it round my way - it's fun. Each to their own, I guess. Plus, guising has a long tradition in Scotland, pre-dating the American format of trick or treat.

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 22/10/2024 17:31

I just found it a bit selfish for a Nan to not want to spend Halloween with the grandkids

Translation: I want her to mind the 12 year olds and she’s actually doing something for herself instead

JudgeJ · 22/10/2024 17:31

purplebeansprouts · 22/10/2024 16:59

Presumably OP lives in a dangerous neighbourhood

It's all those gangsta grannies terrorising the area at Halloween!

Whaaaaaat · 22/10/2024 17:33

It also depends on your 12 year old and their friend if they need supervision from Nan. Are they likely to be going around egging properties like some teens do? Or is it that your area is unsafe? Why can’t they visit your immediate neighbours alone? Either way that’s going to make it hard for your mum. She probably doesn’t fancy the propspect of doing that now they are 12.

Figgygal · 22/10/2024 17:33

CleverAzureDreamer · 22/10/2024 17:01

The kids enjoy spending time with her. Last year we made cupcakes with her before treat or treating (which she suggested). It’s not as though she’s a cold Nan. I just thought it’s nice to spend time together with family and friends but clearly I’m in the minority.

Yeah you thought it would be nice but it's OK for her to think otherwise.
Not sure why your 12 yo isn't allowed to go on their own either.......I'd let mine but he wants to go with his little brother as its their tradition

WearyAuldWumman · 22/10/2024 17:35

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 22/10/2024 17:06

You are English that's why (5th November and burning the catholic Guy Fawkes effigy has always been a much bigger deal there).

Halloween is an Irish/Scottish cultural event, nothing to do with yanks.

Not even the newer interjection 'trick or treat' (superimposed on guising) is from the US as it's from Canada, and its Canada who got guising from the Scots.

Round our way, the kids do now say "Trick or treat!" but I do always ask the kids if they're going to sing a song or tell a joke before giving them their sweeties. Usually, it's a joke these days but we sometimes get a Hallowe'en song.

Sadly, we no longer get "Knock, knock we are the Guiiiiiisers!"

ImNoSuperman · 22/10/2024 17:35

CleverAzureDreamer · 22/10/2024 16:49

DS wanted to go with his friend alone but I can’t allow that now because my mum won’t be able to supervise them. I’m not allowing him to go with just the friend alone at night without either me or mum so he’ll come with us.

Why not? If it's not safe in your area for 12 year olds to trick or treat at 6pm it's not surprising your mum doesn't want to go.

At 12/13 my cousin and I were taking our younger siblings/cousins Trick or Treating. No adults.

The next generation have mostly out grown it now but the older ones, who still enjoyed dressing up at 12+, have always taken the younger siblings/cousins. Only got one under 10 now, the 19 year olds would still take him if he asked.

Redglitter · 22/10/2024 17:35

CleverAzureDreamer · 22/10/2024 16:31

@Widowtoo It’s family time? Last year we had fun.

Clearly she didn't have as much fun as you did

Christmastinsel78 · 22/10/2024 17:36

I bet your mum can't think of anything worse than trudging around the streets following to 12 year olds trick or treating. I bet she booked her hair appointment on purpose for that date and time!