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For sending only one of our daughters to private school

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FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 11:49

I have two daughters, and they are currently in years 6 and 8. Where we live schools are split into primary school (kindy to 6) and high school (7 to 12). dd1, who is in year 8, goes to a selective state school. She is doing really well there as she is pretty academic and thrives in that environment. There has been a lot of opportunities for her to extend her knowledge, in the subjects she is interested in. She is also in one of the top sets, which naturally gives her a smaller class size and extension work.

My year 6, dd2, does okay academically, but is not as inclined that way compared to her sister. I think she will get lost in the crowd should she attend the state school her sister attends. This option is always open for her as we live in the local catchment. dd2, however, is an exceptional musician and has obtained a diploma in both the cello and piano.

At the private school near where we live, dd2 has gotten a music scholarship which partially covers the school fees. My husband and I want to send dd2 there as they have a wonderful music program and smaller classes for everyone. We can afford to send both daughters to the private school if we wanted, but I genuinely feel like the state school suits dd1 better and the private school suits dd2.

We don't want to be unfair to dd1, and we are happy to pay for dd1's schooling too, but I think it should be more about finding a school that suits them. My husband is having some hesitations as we pay considerably more for dd2 as it costs money for her music lessons, competitions, and other musical opportunities she often have, but we are happy to pay for dd1 to learn as well, and she is doing a language lesson outside of school. I would also like to add that some of the science opportunities dd1 has at her state school won't be available at the private school.

OP posts:
widelegenes · 22/10/2024 14:39

Circumferences · 22/10/2024 13:56

Being musically gifted is great for when you want a nice hobby for the rest of your life, but I wouldn't fork out a fortune on sending a child to private school just because they like to play the piano. So yabu.
Her sibling will end up feeling second best, this is inevitable.

OP's daughter has obtained an extremely high standard in both piano and cello at a very young age. It is more than a hobby.

OhTediosity · 22/10/2024 14:43

FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 14:06

dd1 is gifted in her own way so I wouldn't say she is overshadowed by dd2. She has her fair share of achievements both at school subjects and science competitions. How do I invest time in dd1's interests?

Trips to museums, watching documentaries together, reading about her areas of interest so you can discuss them knowledgeably, choosing family holiday destinations for connections to her areas of interest, attending public lectures at universities…?

Ellie1015 · 22/10/2024 14:45

Yanbu. There are 3 options

  1. send each child to the school that meets their needs best.

  2. send dd2 to state school even though you can afford more suitable school that suits her better so both sisters are the same.

  3. also move dd1 to private school even though thriving and happy at current school so both sisters are the same.

In my mind option 1 will have least chance of causing resentment. As long as dd1 knows you feel her school is best for her, but if she would like to explore other private schools you will then i am sure she will be happy with her choice.

Lilo22 · 22/10/2024 14:46

I went to a smaller selective state grammar school after passing my 11+, my brother went to a large top private secondary school. We were both privately educated at primary school.
While academically the secondary schools gave similar exam results our experiences while there were wildly different. You cannot underestimate the difference in experience.
Luckily both my brother and I have had success in life but if backed into a corner I would say that it does sting that my brother had over £100k more invested in his education by our parents than I did. This is the kind of thing that isn’t a problem when life is going well, I can easily see how in a family this could create rifts in the future if life success was to turn out differently

Entertainmentcentral · 22/10/2024 14:50

It seems you're parenting responsively. Why not ask your older daughter how she feels?

User100000000000 · 22/10/2024 14:54

Sit DD1 down and ask her how she would feel about it if that would help your conscience. However YADNBU as you're giving both adds the education you feel suits them both best. You're not taking from one to give to the other.
What would be Unreasonable would be to not give DD2 that amazing scholarship opportunity just because you personally feel it's uneven. That would be awful

dulciede · 22/10/2024 14:56

The private/state schooling issue is a red herring here.
The standard of your 10 year old DD2's musical talent is so prodigious (unless something is being lost in translation) that it is a significant investment of family resources - both time and financially. It sounds like you have plenty of money and can afford to ensure the same amount of money is available for DD1 if/when she needs it in the future.
The bigger issue is the investment of parental time that DD2 gets because of her huge talent, and the knock-on effect on DD1. (And of course, issues for the prodigy themselves can often arise as they get older.)
Your DD1 doesn't have the kind of prodigal talent DD2 has - or she'd be working at degree level already. But our worth isn't linked to our talent, and this is something important for both your girls to learn.
In your shoes, I'd be spending as much time as possible with DD1 just connecting... go to the cinema/theatre to catch shows that DD2 is too young for, going for coffee and to visit a bookstore, going to museums and galleries. I'd also take DD1 to visit the private school on a separate trip to DD2, and ask the school to focus on DD1 and her abilities while she's there. Separately, I'd be trying to ensure that DD2 has as much time as possible to just be a kid, and that the pressure on her WRT to music is as low as possible.

Fiestytiger · 22/10/2024 14:59

Regardless of cost send them where they are suited. Your elder daughter may be happy where she is so may not want to move anyway. Mine go to different schools as they have different needs. If I’d had to pay I would have made the same decision.

Cantbelievethatimafoolagain · 22/10/2024 15:02

My older sibling went to a private secondary school which they started from year 6, not year 7. They're very very clever and our primary school just wasn't good enough. My parents couldn't afford the fees at first but then made it work. I was supposed to go to a grammar school but didn't get in. I never minded going to a normal school and my sibling going private. Private school would have been wasted on me. With my cousins, one went to grammar and the other went to private. I think it's more common than people realise. I don't think it's unfair. We are all different.

MissUltraViolet · 22/10/2024 15:04

Question is - would DD1 have chosen the private school had the choice been given to her back when she was in year 6? It was never going to be a straightforward choice for her to make now she’s in her second year of secondary, has settled in and made friends.

I would definitely try come up with ways to make it all fairer, both financially and how much time you dedicate to each child’s interests, hobbies etc.

Ozanj · 22/10/2024 15:05

Cantbelievethatimafoolagain · 22/10/2024 15:02

My older sibling went to a private secondary school which they started from year 6, not year 7. They're very very clever and our primary school just wasn't good enough. My parents couldn't afford the fees at first but then made it work. I was supposed to go to a grammar school but didn't get in. I never minded going to a normal school and my sibling going private. Private school would have been wasted on me. With my cousins, one went to grammar and the other went to private. I think it's more common than people realise. I don't think it's unfair. We are all different.

You say this now because you never experienced private school. But it’s the kids who don’t do well academically who benefit most from going to private school. Eg several of my neices have built thriving businesses straight out of school because they managed to get early seed funding and business support from their friends’ parents. You can’t miss what you don’t know.

CrikeyMajikey · 22/10/2024 15:09

I had a similar situation, DC1 in selective state secondary and DC2 in private because private was able to provide DC2 the environment and support they needed at that time. My thoughts are you do what is best for child. However, DC1 was asked termly if they wanted to switch to private but they never did. DC2 joined DC1 in selective state secondary in Yr8. The cost & amount spent on DC2 never bothered or worried me until DC1 went to Uni. Am I prepared to let DC1 leave Uni with £50,000 in debt when I paid far more than that on DC2’s education for 4 years? This situation really doesn’t sit well with me and so I am paying DC1’s UnI costs. No doubt I will pay for DC2’s too.

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 15:11

Cluelessasacucumber · 22/10/2024 13:44

I was the grammar school girl in this situation whilst my less academic sister went to private. I think you've gone about this in the right way but I thought it may be helpful to share my perspective.

I didn't resent my sister going to private, it was the right decision for us both. But I did resent the mindset of this decision and the knock on impacts for me. I felt that my parents did, and still do, see my sister as "needier" whereas they think of me as capable, therefore she gets more support. I am naturally more independent and academic but I also internalised this perception, so I wouldn't approach them for help because I feel I'm not supposed to, or will be refused. My parents have always been keen to stress how much they've given us both in life, and how many opportunities we've had compared to them growing up - this is true, and I'm grateful but it wasn't always equitable.

In practice, how this paned out during the school years is there was a hobby I didnt get to do and I never got to go on any overseas school trips. I honestly can't even remember if I asked, or if I just assumed because of other "we cant afford that" conversations, but I know the option wasn't there for me and I felt quite angry about that. I was also pressured to get a job as an older teen which was a struggle on top of trying to maintain grammar school expected grades and extra curricular (mostly volunteering) which I was told was needed to get ahead, so I felt a constant sense of not meeting the expected standard which still sits with me.

I really struggled financially at uni, which was of course partly down to my choice of course and location (although I dont think I fully understood that decision at 18). My parents did help me but nothing like the financial equivalent of my sisters schooling. Im in my 30s and unlikely to pay off my student debt anytime soon. My sister chose a subsidised course at a much cheaper location, so she had much lower costs, but she would never have got a place on the course without private school and considerable investment in tutors. The gifts my parents gave her have meant she was essentially able to pay off uni and buy a property in her 20s.

This is of course my personal circumstances but the point I want to make is these decisions can be far reaching. I think most importantly you need to keep the conversation with your older daughter OPEN. It shouldn't be a done deal just because she didn't want to move schools at 14. You need to keep talking to her and understanding what her needs are (even if she seems to be doing well) as she grows.

This is my experience too

Cerealkiller4U · 22/10/2024 15:11

I think this will cause huge issues if I’m honest

its the type of thing I’ve seen in therapy sessions (online) when one child feels more loved than the other.

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 15:13

CrikeyMajikey · 22/10/2024 15:09

I had a similar situation, DC1 in selective state secondary and DC2 in private because private was able to provide DC2 the environment and support they needed at that time. My thoughts are you do what is best for child. However, DC1 was asked termly if they wanted to switch to private but they never did. DC2 joined DC1 in selective state secondary in Yr8. The cost & amount spent on DC2 never bothered or worried me until DC1 went to Uni. Am I prepared to let DC1 leave Uni with £50,000 in debt when I paid far more than that on DC2’s education for 4 years? This situation really doesn’t sit well with me and so I am paying DC1’s UnI costs. No doubt I will pay for DC2’s too.

You seem very perceptive. I wish my parents had seen the irony in this and perhaps, as a gesture, paid my uni fees to level the playing field somewhat.

Anywherebuthere · 22/10/2024 15:18

Your reasons are totally justifiable.

But my worry would be about when they are older. Will one feel hard done by compared to the other?

It might seem trivial now but resentment can drive a wedge between siblings. Other than this it makes sense to place them both where they will thrive even if that's in different schools.

LBFseBrom · 22/10/2024 15:20

You are not at all unreasonable. You can do other things for your eldest daughter.

I'm sure they will both do very well.

Frith2013 · 22/10/2024 15:28

I'm confused about the top sets being smaller in size. The tops sets when I was at school were 30+ with only 6-10 children in sets 5 and 6.

Same for my older son.

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 22/10/2024 15:42

LimeCookie · 22/10/2024 12:03

I would have 1-1 time with you eldest. Write it all out, the pros of each school specific to her. Go on a tour of the private school with just your eldest, so she has time to take it all in and come to an independent decision. When she’s an adult, I think it will be good for her to look back and know her parents really did try to make sure the best decision is made. I didn’t go to private so I don’t know the ins and outs, but thinking about when she finishes school, will she have wider opportunities if she had been to the private school? Are there other opportunities more suited to her, that you could offer her, alongside state school?

Edited

This is a great approach

JohnCravensNewsround · 22/10/2024 15:47

Fair is not always equal in the moment.
You say that DD1 is more academic. You may end up supporting her through undergrad and masters.
We supported our children in their ambitions. One went through uni, the other went to work at 18, and we helped by paying for lessons and a first car.
Life is long so don't tie yourself in knots about parity being related to costs, it's not

WhitneyBaby · 22/10/2024 15:52

I'm confused about the top sets being smaller in size. The tops sets when I was at school were 30+ with only 6-10 children in sets 5 and 6
Same for my older son

In what country?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/10/2024 15:54

@FlakySwan

To be honest both my sister and I feel strongly even now that we were sent to the wrong school because we weren't sent to a school that really suited the eldest but didn't suit us, so fair play to you YANBU.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/10/2024 15:56

Were*

Savingthehedgehogs · 22/10/2024 16:00

I’m not sure we can apply the same principle if you are not in the U.K as education can vary hugely at international schools.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 22/10/2024 16:03

No, it's fine. Spending money doesn't always equal love and support, it's important what individual children need.
I went to a state school while my sibling went to a private school which suited her better. I ended up with a better education.