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To hope that Donald Trump doesn’t win the election

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RosaMoline · 21/10/2024 16:05

….it’s getting closer.
I was hoping that Kamala would be a shoo-in for the presidency, but looking at the betting odds, I’m feeling quite pessimistic.
It’s incomprehensible to me that a convicted felon, racist, rapist, liar and misogynist who spurred on an insurrection - after everything that’s happened - is running for office again and may very well win.
It’s comforting to read though that fellow Brits DON’T support him.
Apart from Reform. Obviously.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50752-who-did-britons-want-to-win-the-2024-us-presidential-election

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Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:36

Birdscratch · 21/10/2024 20:33

his sleazy drug and sex parties are hardly admirable.

Do you understand how U.K. law works?

I don't understand your point?

Birdscratch · 21/10/2024 20:38

I don’t have the time to go into all the things you don’t understand but if we skip to L for libel …

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 20:41

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:32

@MelainesLaugh Obama was one of the worst presidents in modern history. And since we're attacking people's character, his fake marriage with Michelle where they try and brand themselves as the new Kennedy's and his sleazy drug and sex parties are hardly admirable.

I don't recall Obama turning the USA into a laughing stock the way Trump did. When your leader is a clown it's only natural to assume the country is a circus.

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:42

Birdscratch · 21/10/2024 20:38

I don’t have the time to go into all the things you don’t understand but if we skip to L for libel …

Perhaps I'll just innocently state that there are pictures of Obama with P Diddy.

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:43

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 20:41

I don't recall Obama turning the USA into a laughing stock the way Trump did. When your leader is a clown it's only natural to assume the country is a circus.

America is a laughing stock right now, the sitting president was forced to leave the race because of his mental capacity yet he remains in office.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/10/2024 20:45

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:29

What policy do you think damages women?

Repealing of Roe V Wade, denying miscarrying women medical care until they are at the point of death, no exceptions to the abortion ban for rape or incest.

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:48

thepariscrimefiles · 21/10/2024 20:45

Repealing of Roe V Wade, denying miscarrying women medical care until they are at the point of death, no exceptions to the abortion ban for rape or incest.

You clearly don't understand what the overturning of Roe V wade meant. Stop listening to crazy lefists.

biscuitandcake · 21/10/2024 20:52

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:43

America is a laughing stock right now, the sitting president was forced to leave the race because of his mental capacity yet he remains in office.

Joe Biden clearly lacks the mental capacity for a second term. It became incredibly obvious in the first debate even if there was some head in sand business before. Donald Trump also clearly lacks the mental capacity for a second term. Whatever else one might think of his character previously (I don't have a high opinion) he is now spending 30 minutes of a town hall just dancing, and rambling about golfers penis sizes. He has always had a rambly style of talking but this is different and it's crazy that people cant see all their criticism of Biden applies to Trump too. (unless your point is it's embarrassing that Biden was forced to leave the race, not that he needed to be forced to leave the race. He should have hung on so the rest of the world.could have marvelled at the fight of the dementia patients)

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 20:53

username35890 · 21/10/2024 16:17

Trump is a populist and they're doing very well in politics right now. The West is moving very far to the right. His Project 25 is terrifying and I'm sure there's talk of mass deportation.

I do not see his reelection as good news for women or the Middle East.

Project 25 isn’t “his” though is it?

thepariscrimefiles · 21/10/2024 20:53

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:43

America is a laughing stock right now, the sitting president was forced to leave the race because of his mental capacity yet he remains in office.

You do know that Donald Trump is a laughing stock across Europe apart from with a couple of dictators like Orban and Putin. Trump is Putin's bitch and Trump is so ridiculous he'll to anything to get the approval of a few tin pot dictators.

Also, tell us about the piss-tape. Is that why Trump will stop sending aid to Ukraine?

pointythings · 21/10/2024 20:56

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:48

You clearly don't understand what the overturning of Roe V wade meant. Stop listening to crazy lefists.

Well, it's killed women in several states. But you're probably OK with that.

User37482 · 21/10/2024 20:56

I loathe trump, equally I think a lot of the progressive elements of the democrats are giving people the heebi jeebies. There are places that are now trying to raise police funding after it turned out that defunding the police wasn’t a great idea. Policies on drug usage have gone badly (Oregon). I don’t think it’s so much that people adore trump I think it’s because the democrats and progressive policies are looking a bit shit. Theres pushback now on trans women in womens sports.

I feel sorry for americans tbh. I would never cast a ballot for Trump, but I’m not sure I’d be wanting to vote for Harris either.

User37482 · 21/10/2024 20:57

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:48

You clearly don't understand what the overturning of Roe V wade meant. Stop listening to crazy lefists.

Are you actully THE Candace Ownens?

BustingBaoBun · 21/10/2024 21:01

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 20:53

Project 25 isn’t “his” though is it?

I think it's 68 people from his previous administration crafted it

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 21:03

RevelryMum · 21/10/2024 16:29

Well now you have Elon musk giving away a million a day to a random person who signs his petition in the swing states and trump is being well advised he is doing the rounds in a lot of podcasts so I'm really not hopeful . I really worry about the world if he is elected again .

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Where were you when Zuckerberg was campaigning for the Democrats in 2020? Or it it just Elon that’s not allowed to have an opinion now that he’s not voting for them anymore?

Its hilarious that Elon has everyone talking about the petition - well played, free advertising.

Were you worried about the Obama presidency during all the wars and incessant funding of wars?

SpunkyKoala · 21/10/2024 21:05

I voted YABU because politics in the US is so far removed from the political atmosphere of the UK that you really need to spend time in all the states to get a feel for the culture. It really is that different. Donald trump is hideous but the fervency of religion, political affiliations, national pride and belief in the American Constitution ensures that he captures a lot of groups of society who arent represented by less radical candidates and their politics.

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 21:06

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 20:41

I don't recall Obama turning the USA into a laughing stock the way Trump did. When your leader is a clown it's only natural to assume the country is a circus.

He had the highest employment rate in years. I expect that’s why a lot of Americans would like to vote for him. People like being able to earn money and not have their taxes wasted.

StartupRepair · 21/10/2024 21:10

If Trump gets in Putin will be emboldened to move into countries like Estonia and Finland. Trump will ignore NATO's obligations and Europe will be completely destabilized.

biscuitandcake · 21/10/2024 21:11

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 21:03

Where were you when Zuckerberg was campaigning for the Democrats in 2020? Or it it just Elon that’s not allowed to have an opinion now that he’s not voting for them anymore?

Its hilarious that Elon has everyone talking about the petition - well played, free advertising.

Were you worried about the Obama presidency during all the wars and incessant funding of wars?

Most of the people posting aren't American. We don't necessarily have any strong partisan committment to "the libs" and weren't necessarily strong cheerleaders for any of those people you list. There has been concern about Facebook for a long time. It's old news now since it isn't really much of an influencer in the US/UK. Lots of people here have criticised things like the American left's position on gender issues (some might agree wihh them, not a hive mind). But none of that means that Donald Trump being elected would be a good thing. Telling everyone they just don't like him because they are all crazy leftists/hypocritical Dems just makes you look stupid and unable to think outside your own bubble.

XChrome · 21/10/2024 21:13

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/10/2024 16:24

As opposed to a woman who got her initial position ( by her own admission) by sexual favours to her boss. Who has never been elected to any office ( withdrew from her primary when it was obvious that she was going to get the smallest share of the vote). Who didn’t visit the border when she was supposed to be in charge of it?

we won’t mention the earpiece, though.

These claims are outright Trumper lies.

There’s just one problem. The vice president was never in charge of the border. That job belongs to Alejandro Mayorkas, the secretary of homeland security, and to Xavier Becerra, the secretary of health and human services.

https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/10/11/harris-mexico-border-first-visit-fact-check/75573023007/

Well before she dated Brown, Harris was making her own way as a prosecutor, and she succeeded in her career because she was good at it, not because she dated a particular guy for a few months. She started working in the Alameda County district attorney’s office in 1990. By the late 1990s, she was recruited by the San Francisco district attorney to work in his office as an assistant DA. And she replaced the man who recruited her because she won an election campaign against him in 2002, not because an ex-boyfriend or anyone else appointed her.
Not that that matters to right-wingers who are convinced that any woman or person of color who gets ahead can’t possibly have done so through their own merit.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/kamala-harris-mother-dating-sexism-racism-republicans-vp-brown-williams.html

I suggest you pipe down before you embarrass yourself further with this racist, misogynistic drivel.

Vice President Kamala Harris vists Guatemala For Talks on Economy and Migration

Kamala Harris and the border: The myth and the facts

No, Kamala Harris is not a “border czar.” But that doesn’t matter to Republicans.

https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc

username35890 · 21/10/2024 21:14

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 20:53

Project 25 isn’t “his” though is it?

You're right, he didn't write it. However many of Trump's closest policy advisers and those likely to take high-ranking positions in his administration are heavily involved in the project.

PandoraSox · 21/10/2024 21:18

Candaceowens · 21/10/2024 20:42

Perhaps I'll just innocently state that there are pictures of Obama with P Diddy.

What does that prove?

BustingBaoBun · 21/10/2024 21:18

Or it it just Elon that’s not allowed to have an opinion now that he’s not voting for them anymore?

Well it's not just an opinion is it?

He is illegally buying support for trump by giving away one million dollars a day in swing States

PublicEnemyNo2 · 21/10/2024 21:22

CoatRack · 21/10/2024 18:40

No, tell us more about how evil he is.

He's LITERALLY Hitler isn't he! 🤣🤣

he was likened to not only Hitler but Mussolini and Stalin in a dem leaning publication recently. Crazy.

Like the smarmy intolerance on this thread.

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