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MusicLife80 · 14/10/2024 21:21

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/10/2024 18:17

Just watching the news, the (so called father), says he " legally" punished her, wtaf!!!.
Heartbreaking

Patriarchal mysogyny, in his warped fucking mind he prob thought he was in the right. Fucking bastard needs to die.

Notagain24 · 14/10/2024 21:22

Justwanttocheck · 14/10/2024 18:22

Where was her biological mother ?

The courts gave custody to the father, and he restricted access. I hope there's a review of the judgements by the judge who handed her over to live with her father, which enabled this abuse to happen in this disgusting family.

Cozzadelsol · 14/10/2024 21:23

CabraCadabra · 14/10/2024 21:09

Most children who are abused and killed are in school/nursery. This isn't a home schooling issue.

I have many friends who are completely dedicated home schoolers, but there are some devious bastards who will use home schooling as a cover for keeping their child away from the 'prying eyes' of abuse. I know in my circle, they would have no problem in being monitored in regards to the well-being of their children

Perimenopausalpenny · 14/10/2024 21:25

It just makes my heart break and me feel sick in equal measure. I get so affected by what these youngsters have to go through before ultimately they are killed. So many of these stories. Wtaf is wrong with these people?!

Pomegranatecarnage · 14/10/2024 21:26

Justwanttocheck · 14/10/2024 18:22

Where was her biological mother ?

Her father got custody.

Notagain24 · 14/10/2024 21:29

pompey38 · 14/10/2024 20:27

Most probably in Poland, she lost custody of her kids in favour of the father , so she must be pretty bad herself, all people/institutions as bad as each other

This is a disgusting thing to say about Sara's mother - the court decided to give custody, god knows what picture the father painted of himself and the loving and supportive community which would support him, we know they made a huge mistake. To imply that Sara's mum was as bad as him is appalling - and i suspect potentially defamatory.

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 21:30

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/10/2024 18:17

Just watching the news, the (so called father), says he " legally" punished her, wtaf!!!.
Heartbreaking

Yes, I picked up on that too. Unbelievable! His call to the police was recorded with him saying he "legally" punished her because she was "naughty" but he didn't mean to kill her, he just "lost it". Now he's pleading Not Guilty (and blaming his wife). How the heck does that work then - confess and then plead NG? And how "naughty" could a young child ever be that the response is to beat them to death? It's beyond repugnant. 😔

Over40Overdating · 14/10/2024 21:32

@Notagain24 I hope that judge never has a moments peace again in their life, to be perfectly honest. Giving custody of a female child to a domestic abuser with a hatred of her mother. How else would it ever have ended. I hope the guilt crushes them.

Cozzadelsol · 14/10/2024 21:35

Thebellofstclements · 14/10/2024 19:12

According to the article he also said he would return to Britain to face the death penalty, so I wonder if he was aware of the legal differences between the UK and Pakistan. Which are considerable.

He knows the difference. He is just one devious, evil bastard, who knows he will get a pittance of a sentence in the UK and also be housed in a comfy prison where he'll probably be in a special wing for these types

Wishitsnows · 14/10/2024 21:36

Absolutely horrific, that poor young girl and her poor mum. Family Court would no doubt give this evil family custody of another child if found not guilty. I hope for the poor children that survive being forced to see abusive men can sue when they get to 18. Not that this will help her. Lessons will not be learned

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 21:39

TashaTudor · 14/10/2024 18:51

I needed access to my medical records recently and it's recorded on there that I was raped and sexually abused by my father for years. I was forced to see him every weekend for a further 2 years after it was noted, missed every Monday off school and unable to walk. I was 9 years old and it's taken a lot of therapy knowing it was on my medical record and nobody cared. Unfortunately I don't think things will ever change.

Rest in peace beautiful girl

God, that's appalling - I can't even imagine the level of anger you must feel at that complacency; that your safe-guarding wasn't prioritised over everything else. I'm so sorry. 😔

andthat · 14/10/2024 21:40

TashaTudor · 14/10/2024 18:51

I needed access to my medical records recently and it's recorded on there that I was raped and sexually abused by my father for years. I was forced to see him every weekend for a further 2 years after it was noted, missed every Monday off school and unable to walk. I was 9 years old and it's taken a lot of therapy knowing it was on my medical record and nobody cared. Unfortunately I don't think things will ever change.

Rest in peace beautiful girl

I am so so sorry for your horrific experience. Unimaginably heartbreaking. ❤️

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 14/10/2024 21:41

RogueFemale · 14/10/2024 20:59

@YourFunMember "that poor little darling was abused by those fucking ANIMALS shatters my heart."

Do not call them animals as an insult. Animals are far, far superior to these three worthless humans.

Absolutely and like the Judge in The Gabriel Fernandez case said.
”You want say that the conduct was animalistic but that would be wrong because animals take care of and protect their young”. He then went on to tell a story about a mother cat who rescued her kittens from a burning house.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 14/10/2024 21:44

why is she in a full face of makeup? very inappropriate and creepy for her to have adult makeup like that so young. disgusting freaks

Falseshamrok · 14/10/2024 21:48

That poor child. Poor poor girl.

nobody to blame but they fucking scum that did that to her.

Dutchesss · 14/10/2024 21:49

My heart hurts for what Sara had to endure and also for all the children out there who are suffering behind closed doors.
Evil exists in humans and I don't know how we can stop it. 😢

PumpkinSpicePie · 14/10/2024 21:49

Dontlletmedownbruce · 14/10/2024 20:36

@IdrisElbow I couldn't agree more re home schooling. The fact that someone opts out of mainstream society is a red flag in itself. On a practical note, no one with that many young kids at home would have the capacity to spend time doing school work with a child that age.

@TashaTudor your post made me gasp in horror. I really wish you the best.

The Turpin family in the US were another famous case of home schooling hiding abuse.

TashaTudor · 14/10/2024 21:50

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 21:39

God, that's appalling - I can't even imagine the level of anger you must feel at that complacency; that your safe-guarding wasn't prioritised over everything else. I'm so sorry. 😔

It literally stopped my breath, I figured it was known about by family and I felt let down by school although I did go to a few different schools but for it to be written down by a doctor and still nothing was done and the way it just says date - (I was 9) continued sexual abuse and rape by father. Date - chest infection. Etc like it was nothing. There's also so many hospital visits, police records, attempt murder of my mum, alcohol poisoning as a toddler, it was only when he refused to take me home one weekend and it ended up in court with him wanting full custody that a court welfare officer stopped all contact. He still stalked me for a few years, posting notes saying he watches me go to school etc he even saw me in a school play when he wasn't meant to have any contact. I am angry because I feel like I haven't had the life I was meant to have and approaching 40 I feel like it's too late to live the life I want (I don't even know what I want!)

Penguinmouse · 14/10/2024 21:50

The most awful story. I hope they rot.

RogueFemale · 14/10/2024 21:50

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 14/10/2024 21:41

Absolutely and like the Judge in The Gabriel Fernandez case said.
”You want say that the conduct was animalistic but that would be wrong because animals take care of and protect their young”. He then went on to tell a story about a mother cat who rescued her kittens from a burning house.

Yes, absolutely agree. Most, if not all, mammals and birds are incredibly protective of their babies.

Mcginty57 · 14/10/2024 21:56

I just can't understand how someone could inflict such abuse on a child never mind there own child. It always seems to be common there's a step parent involved as well. Poor little girl.

Dutchesss · 14/10/2024 21:59

TashaTudor · 14/10/2024 21:50

It literally stopped my breath, I figured it was known about by family and I felt let down by school although I did go to a few different schools but for it to be written down by a doctor and still nothing was done and the way it just says date - (I was 9) continued sexual abuse and rape by father. Date - chest infection. Etc like it was nothing. There's also so many hospital visits, police records, attempt murder of my mum, alcohol poisoning as a toddler, it was only when he refused to take me home one weekend and it ended up in court with him wanting full custody that a court welfare officer stopped all contact. He still stalked me for a few years, posting notes saying he watches me go to school etc he even saw me in a school play when he wasn't meant to have any contact. I am angry because I feel like I haven't had the life I was meant to have and approaching 40 I feel like it's too late to live the life I want (I don't even know what I want!)

That's horrendous. And not even that long ago. I'm sorry you went through that and that the people in a position to help you didn't help.
You have been robbed of the childhood you deserved. Though it will never be too late to live the life you want. Your life is yours now. ❤️

Fizbosshoes · 14/10/2024 22:03

I cried when I heard on the radio, what the dad said on the 999 call but it was worse than anything I could have imagined when reading the article.
The idea of a grown man beating up a 10 year old child - to the point they died- because they had been "naughty" was sickening enough, but the abuse is a whole new level.
RIP Sara
But also how traumatic for the other children who must have witnessed it (or potentially been abused themselves) and then taken away immediately to live abroad. How will they get through that psychologically?

But also was she separated from friends or not allowed to see them. If one of my DC best friends was suddenly and abruptly taken out of school I imagine they would still want to see them. I guess they probably did exclude friends for fear of abuse being discovered or disclosed.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 14/10/2024 22:05

Well, how would you make her?

Hold her down and force her jaw open.

PumpkinSpicePie · 14/10/2024 22:06

CabraCadabra · 14/10/2024 21:09

Most children who are abused and killed are in school/nursery. This isn't a home schooling issue.

Often happens in school summer holidays or lockdown though. It's easier for people to hide abuse when they are not at school. That's why they took Sara out of school. Can you imagine her attending school and doing PE with all those injuries? I can't.