Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

[Mayaamelia]

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

I would bet money on the Cane Corso being the next problem dog.
Sadly there will always be a replacement breed for people that want aggressive status symbols.

This genuinely gives me the chills. I don't think I'd be able to smile and nod if someone were telling me this.

"We can't just kill them though"

What's good for the goose....

Is good for The Gander... ?

'She leaves the kids alone with them all the time while she's off cooking or going for a pee'😡

That is asking for it, no matter what breed the dog is.

My dogs are taken to another part of the house when we have children visit. I never leave adults alone with the dogs other than close family.

And the dogs

Are you serious? You think cats and dogs are more sentient than cattle and birds? Have a look at Crows and Pigs.. Corvids have been judged to be far more ‘intelligent’ than dogs, and pigs have the emotional capability of at least a 3 year old child. Beyond that Cows and calves can be just as loving and playful as dogs, we don’t like to acknowledge that though.. because they are eaten.

I didn't smile and nod

I told her the facts about killer kimbo,the facts that they can and do kill and they are dangerous

She got snotty and told me I was wrong-the media is 'scaremongering' and 'winding people up' apparently

I said we'd have to agree to disagree and I hope one doesn't turn on her/the kids (which I hope they dont)

She put in a complaint about me (the first in 8 years of working at my place) and I've not seen her since

Every single time I read of another killing someone,I check for her/the kids names

So far so good,but it's just a matter of time-we have had men (always skinny,weedy men) with them outside our place,unmuzzled and never in control

Part of my job is going outside with your food,and I'm laughed at for point blank refusing to walk past one (And I love dogs)

They scare the crap out of me-they are muscle wrapped in fur and those eyes-they have no soul

This loon has 3!

3 bombs that could go off at anytime

If that's true then what the hell are people eating them for ?

You know what, come to think it, I found a little baby crow once, and it was so bright in the eyes and social and curious

It’s not ‘if’ it’s true.. it is true, go and do your own research into the intelligence/emotional capabilities of different farm animals. I eat meat now and again, but I do not delude myself that the animal I ate was not sentient or suffering.

I have a murder of crows who visit me for food, I give them food, they bring me gifts that they think I’d like. Anyways getting off topic now.

They really aren't. We just tell ourselves that because we eat cows.

Exactly. At least cats and dogs are usually affording a kind death without fear and pain. I am not vegetarian so not being a hypocrite or anything. Let’s be honest, if you eat meat, you don’t get the moral high ground. I think dangerous breeds should humanely and kindly be put to sleep. If they “snap”, their final moments won’t be kind or humane if they’re surrounded by screaming and being shot at by the police.

We can't just kill them though

Yes we can.

Why can they be left to randomly kill people and stop them from enjoying walks?

It's like being in some weird video game, you never know what's going to jump out at you. A monster and its intellectually challenged owner, or a gang of knife wielding thugs on bikes.

Sick of having my life compromised by dickheads.

We can't just kill them though

Yes we can.

Of course we can

Turkey is mass culling. People are weirdly sentimental about animals. If the owner is responsible and able to train and keep the animals and people safe, all good. If animals are dangerous, poorly trained or unsuitable for homing then they should be culled. How many thousands of dogs are stuck in shelters? I cannot understand how animal lives are exalted to the point that people are arguing about saving them. Farm animals are sentiment. Dogs are sentiment. Animals are sentiment. But if they pose a threat to humans, they don't come first. Farm animals are sentiment and deserving of compassion. Dogs that are allowed to attack, or are trained, or neglected or not safe around people need dealing with. Don't even get me started on ignorant people who let their dogs scare livestock and cause them to miscarry out of shock.

Absolutely, I adore my GSD, have had them all my life and wouldn't have another breed, but I respect that they're strong and willful (according to the breed standard!).

Bred to shout and make things go away though, rather than fight to the death like pitbulls. Every German Shepherd I've had would bark madly if someone knocked on the door, but if I open the door, they're a new best friend.

This is such a contentious subject, however, as a dog owner of many different breeds over many decades and with welfare experience, I would say this:

My Newfoundland can SMELL water and legs it to the source as ITS IN HER DNA. She is also a stubborn pig when she gets a scent. ITS IN HER DNA.
My Newfoundland will be extremely concerned if I cry, or make a strange sound. ITS IN HER DNA.

My Golden Retriever, was a big soft melt, but he was destructive of tea towels because retrieving and being sweet IS IN HIS DNA.

My Cocker spaniel was pts as he was a resource guarder who bit anyone who came near him for a million different reasons (when I was a teenager) with no warning or predictability. RESOURCE GUARDING is a common problem in some badly bred spaniels.

My Pugs x 3 we're all the sweetest dogs around people but as a companion dog, ITS IN THEIR DNA. They are notoriously greedy again, it's in their DNA.

My Labrador is the sweetest most biddable puppy I have had yet and highly intelligent/can remember a command after only a few mentions. She likes to fetch and retrieve, again IT's IN HER DNA. She is extremely greedy, again, IN HER DNA. She loves water, again, in her DNA.

My foster LGD (Kangal x rough collie from Greece) was an escape artist who as a puppy could scale a 10ft fence, and wanted to live outside - as a LGD, IT IS IN HIS DNA.

Every single breed has traits. Unfortunately for XL bullies, their DNA involves a fighting/aggressive genetic. Yes, there will be some who are soft as clarts, it once they become status symbols in the wrong hands, they are a lethal weapon.
For this reason along with their size, they are simply not safe in the hands of anybody who can't control them in public. It should be illegal for children to be responsible for them and also every owner should have to pass a test on canine behaviour and breed traits. Furthermore, the inland revenue need to get their arses into gear and investigate every person advertising litters of puppies online. These people are making millions in cash, tax free, with no care who they sell their pups to and no fear of prosecution.

The irony is, that despite the majority of people being against these dogs, we actually WANT the owners to be right, that your precious fur baby of a killing machine 'would never hurt anyone'. People getting arsey and defending the breed, I hope your all proven right that these dogs aren't going to hurt or kill anyone unfortunately I won't be surprised when I hear of yet another attack by a XL bully

I love dogs and have them but probably won't have more. There are too many and even I as an owner feel uncomfortable with the sheer number of dogs being kept. I realise I am part of the problem.
XL bullies are dangerous, it doesn't matter how soft the dog appears they can switch very quickly. The link to the article about the lineage is heartbreaking and honestly traumatising. Sadly I would support even tougher action being taken.

Sorry, but for you to even OWN an XL bully whilst you have children is extremely irresponsible. You say you wouldn't leave your kids with any dog alone, which says you fear for their safety. So why then would you even consider having an XL in your house, even with yourself in the room?
Can't you see that doesn't make sense?

You will NOT be able to save your kids from the ferocious jaws of one of those dogs, even if there's a number of adults in the room with you desperately trying to pull the dog off if it attacks.
You might as well liken your reasoning to saying you'd be prepared to allow your kids to swim in shark infested waters amongst adults.
Do you think the adults could protect the kids from the shark?
Or do you think the shark would win?
It's a no brainer really.

Yes it was in England the ears were uneven and looked like they had been hacked with blunt shears honestly I felt sympathy but this dog was FUCKING HUGE (no clue of the breed) myself and the staff were watching in horror as they described the dog as the (almost) 2 year old best friend I expected to read about them in the papers within a month (thankfully not)

I'd fancy my chances against a shark better tbh. Those dogs are demented.

I do not leave my children alone with my dog & that isn’t because he’s an XL that’s because I wouldn’t leave them alone in a room with any dog full stop.

What a way to live! - why, just why? Get rid of the blasted thing and let your children live a peaceful relaxed life.

Of course these dreadful dogs can be killed - there is no other way to keep people safe. It is about survival.

On the whole though we're more likely to be attacked by a person