To ask if you believe in time slips?

[midnightmeows]

I'm on the fence about woo things, however I do like reading stories.

There are lots of stories about time slip experiences, with the most well known being Bold Street, Liverpool. The stories I find interesting are when more than one person (from the 'present' time) sees the 'past' at the same time. In that case it can't be a hallucination - they're either both colluding liars or they really did see 'something'.

Has anyone had any such experiences? I suppose if such a thing exists, we could 'slip' an hour or a day into the past and not even realise.

cracks in the fabric of reality

I wouldn't say I believe in time slips but I wouldnt stake my life on them not being real, just think its unlikely.
I do absolutely agree with this statement though. Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little.

Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little.

Amen to that! So arrogant to assume because THEY don't believe something/have never seen it or experienced it, that it can't possibly exist! 🙄

And on that note, my bed beckons!

Goodnight all!

Zero good evidence, sure. But how many people throughout histroey have claimed to experience some sort of encounter with God? I'd dare say millions or hundreds of millions. Claims of experiences of time travel on the other hand are extremely rare. So evidence for a deity already hugely outweighs evidence of time slips, simply based on the number of accounts.

I don't accept the teleological argument, cosmological argument or various other similar arguments as good evidence for God, but there's a degree of logic to them.

You could also, I suppose, out forward evidence of the historical Jesus as evidence of God's existence.

Again, I'm not remotely persuaded by any of these, but I think poo-pooing the existence of God while believing in time slips (which have even less evidence) is unreasonable.

I assumed that they were joining it up with the fact that people in China have genuinely eaten dogs historically and also there have been many, many cases in the UK of immigrants stealing ducks, swans etc off the river to cook. Especially Chinese restaurants (genuinely happened in my small town when I was a teen) and no doubt similar has happened in the US. So its not a huge stretch to believe Trump's claims from there. Usually rumours need some fertile ground with a bit of half-truth to get going.

just because people believe in the sky fairy, they also used to belive the earth was the centre of the universe back in the day so number of people believing does not make it any more true

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

My issue with time slips is that it often presupposes that the future is set in stone. I believe that we have free will and that whether I eat an apple or not depends on whether I decide to eat it.

I'm never totally convinced when people say they believe in fate, because they still usually try and make rational decisions, which would be pointless if everything was already set. May as well drink drive, smoke, cross the road without looking, etc, if everything is already fixed and your actions have no influence.

A very sensible friend was walking her dog in the misty dawn and saw a man schooling his horse in a circle - except the man was dressed in old fashioned riding gear -she looked again, and he and the horse had disappeared completely.

No where they could have gone to and the field showed no hoof marks.

Most likely a hallucination.

Do you know what? I'm a complete non believer in anything even vaguely woo.
I'm an atheist. Don't believe there's stuff we don't know. Think all the alternative healing crystals reiki stuff is shyte. As is home-fucking-opathy.

But....

I have a mega brainy friend. Cambridge graduate. Did astrophysics when Stephen Hawking still knocked around doing a few lectures.

And one day she starts talking to me about the Bold Street time slips. (I'm from Liverpool.)

Says she's really interested I time slips and looks into them for fun. Says they could be possible if... [something about Einstein and calculations about space and time and elements of physics we don't know yet.... not sure it was after wine and I'm not a brainbox]

But of all the people to endorse a woo thing I never expected her! She seemed deadly serious there is clever science that says it's theoretically possible.

So actually, I'm a bit 'don't know' about this.

Like it or not, and million people claiming to have experienced something extraordinary is more evidence that one person having claimed to experience something extraordinary.

It is very odd that you are completely dismissing one fantastical claim based on the paucity of evidence but seem quite willing to entertain one with far less evidence.

She's the most ''stable'' {no pun intended} person ever with a responsible job.

She's not prone to flights of fancy or seeing things that aren't there.

It's not a normal thing to see - she thought ''that's strange, I've not seen anyone schooling a horse here before.

(Lighthearted!) Look at this typical commuter tapping away on his smartphone on the early morning train to London. But, it's footage of the then-new Advanced Passenger Train, shot in 1982 ...

Probably a Casio calculator.

Calculator 1982

Your brain can do funny things
And I do not believe in those shows on TV that purport to suggest there are supernatural presences. TV Bait

No

Then why aren’t there news reports from the 50s or early twentieth century of an individual wearing strange clothing suddenly appearing there then disappearing? If they could see people, why couldn’t the people also see them?

Yes, but statistically I think a hallucination is more likely than a time travel event, even if still relatively unlikely.

There are also reported incidents of people turning water into wine tbf.

Almost certainly, but when I watched it for the first time I saw it as a phone, and then did a double-take😃

But people's eyes play tricks on them, even more so in cases of poor visibility (you describe misty conditions). This is a really common and explainable phenomenon that I dare say most people have experienced on multiple occasions.

I have a relative who regularly sees people from the Victorian era, out and about. Their eyesight has significantly deteriorated with age and, due to their diminished ability to see things and their brain attempting to adjust to that, they experience visual hallucinations. It's pretty much the same reason people "see things" in other circumstances where their vision is impaired for whatever reason.

Those have been proven to be a load of nonsense.
Derren Brown has done a lot of work to show how fake 'psychics' work.

Cold readings.

Derek Akorah and another medium were shown to have researched stuff for these shows.

One person whose stories are interesting {to me} is Danny Robbins with his ''Uncanny'' podcasts.

It was a ground mist- where the lower part of the horse's legs were obscured , not completely misty.

I wish I'd been with her to have witnessed it.

It was otherwise quite bright.

She walks early before work.