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To ask if you believe in time slips?

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midnightmeows · 12/10/2024 20:00

I'm on the fence about woo things, however I do like reading stories.

There are lots of stories about time slip experiences, with the most well known being Bold Street, Liverpool. The stories I find interesting are when more than one person (from the 'present' time) sees the 'past' at the same time. In that case it can't be a hallucination - they're either both colluding liars or they really did see 'something'.

Has anyone had any such experiences? I suppose if such a thing exists, we could 'slip' an hour or a day into the past and not even realise.

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Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 22:31

Bogginsthe3rd · 12/10/2024 22:25

To help you .. you heard wrong. No matter can travel faster than the speed of light. Nothing (other than the fabric of space time) can travel faster than the speed of light. If you were to travel much closer to the speed of light than your twin and return to your twin, you would have aged much slower than your twin. So in a way that's time travel but only slowing time rather than going back in time (which is not possible according to current understanding).
You are right in that we are looking at the light that travelled from stars and if the star was (for example) 1000 light years away, you are seeing that star as it was 1000 years ago.

Tachyons
Tachyons are hypothetical particles proposed in theoretical physics that would always travel faster than light. They have not been observed, and their existence remains speculative. Tachyons are characterized by having an imaginary mass, leading to unique implications for their behavior in spacetime. Notably, if tachyons exist, they could potentially allow for information transfer faster than light, raising profound questions about causality and the nature of time.

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 22:33

While the speed of light remains a pivotal limit in contemporary physics, various theoretical constructs, including tachyons, quantum entanglement, warp drives, and wormholes, offer tantalizing possibilities for faster-than-light travel.

Offtheroof · 12/10/2024 22:34

MasterBeth · 12/10/2024 20:11

Yet you seem to think you know something about some bollocks called "time slips", though.

I always find it interesting why some non believers get so defensive about these kinds of subjects. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Why does it make you feel threatened? Not trying to be mean, just a genuine question. If it was all just "bollocks", why would it bother you enough to feel the need to make a snarky comment? Might be something to have a look at.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 22:34

Time is a strange concept. Why do we have memories? Why can cameras do the impossible i.e. capture time? These things lead me to believe there is somehow more to manipulate which we haven't discovered or maybe never will be able to. I heard if you travel faster than the speed of light time goes backwards. Not sure if it's true. I know that we are looking at some stars in the sky that appear as they looked x number of years ago. It's fascinating and beyond my comprehension.

Yes @TakemedowntoPotatoCity Some stars out there (that we look at in the night sky,) have died/blown up/gone supernova hundreds of years ago. But they're so far away that the light sent from them when they were still active/alive is still hurtling towards us. So they appear to still be active/alive.

Fascinating stuff. As you say time/the idea of time travel is mind-blowing.

And then there's the weird ageing at different rates if you went into space for some years, and travelled a lot. (And others stayed on earth.) EG; if you travelled millions of miles into space - and came back after 10 years - at 100s of 1000s of miles an hour (if that was possible yet:) when you returned, 50 years would have passed on earth. (But only 10 years would have passed for you!)

I really do feel sorry for people who refuse to believe some things, and who poo-poo everything. Some even doubt science fact that is spoken by physicists and scientists. No open-mindedness at all. Bit sad really. I'd hate to live like that.

Moonlightdust · 12/10/2024 22:35

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 21:45

Shock Ooooooooooooh!

This puts me in mind of when DH and I were out in the car some 12-13 years ago. We had a rather distinctive looking car - like a bright green Mazda MX - and we were driving down the duel carriageway to the town centre of the town we lived in then.

We both spotted (simultaneously) the exact same car as ours, same colour and everything, coming in the opposite direction on the duel carriageway. And the 2 people in it (from the bit of a distance we were away) looked exactly like us!

We both looked at each other briefly for a second and then laughed. Basically we both said 'that's us going home in 2 hours after we've been to town!' Seemed so much like a weird time slip, where we saw ourselves - 2 hours later - coming back from where we were going.

That’s a good one! If not a time slip a fabulous coincidence! 😃

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 22:38

Moonlightdust · 12/10/2024 22:35

That’s a good one! If not a time slip a fabulous coincidence! 😃

Yeah it was weird! Smile

ProvincialLady2024 · 12/10/2024 22:40

I'm open minded.

I'd love to a time slip experience of my house in its first two decades (1908-1928).

Waboofoo · 12/10/2024 22:51

It is possible that I experienced an audio timeslip when staying at old fisherman’s cottage in a village by the sea . My family were filming a video tour in total silence. There was no one else around.

When we returned home an old man’s voice was talking over the video in a strong regional accent- the words were incomprehensible to our modern ears. It sounded like olde language and he was numbling. We could make out odd words. We all listened to it and couldn’t explain it. Really freaky!

HorsesDuvets · 12/10/2024 22:54

No. Because I'm not absolutely batshit crazy.

WyrdyGrob · 12/10/2024 22:55

I remember that story about time travellers and the crucifixion. I’m sure it was in one of the old Nebula Award anthologies or something.

the travelers had had memories implanted so they could speak Aramaic and other pre-trip adaptations like their skin toughened so one of them could walk barefoot?

RubyRooRed · 12/10/2024 22:56

No
What a load of rubbish

Pusheen467 · 12/10/2024 23:12

I his thread is great but my brain hurts.

Sethera · 12/10/2024 23:14

I've never experienced one but I enjoy reading about them. I have an open mind as to whether they are genuine events or have other explanations. Deja vu has a scientific explanation; there might be a reason behind time-slips that science hasn't discovered yet; it could even be a more interesting reason than time travel.

BeardofHagrid · 12/10/2024 23:19

I used to experience this weird thing when I was really unwell with my period in the middle of the night and couldn’t sleep. I would look at the clock, close my eyes and try to sleep and it felt like hours were passing. Turn to look at the clock again and three minutes had passed. It was a horrible sensation!

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:22

I really do feel sorry for people who refuse to believe some things, and who poo-poo everything. Some even doubt science fact that is spoken by physicists and scientists. No open-mindedness at all. Bit sad really. I'd hate to live like that.
I don't think anything is impossible but believe that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and the strongest evidence for the Bold Street time slips appears to be a lady called Julie recently claiming to be the subject of one of the stories that has been doing the rounds on the internet for a couple of decades. We do not so much as have the full name of anyone else from the various stories, nor a first-hand account from any of them.

It looks like Julie claims to have experienced several time slips. I am willing to accept that it is possible that she is genuinely experiencing a real phenomenon, however, I think that either (1) she is making it up, or (2) she believes the stories to be true but is experiencing hallucinations or similar are far more likely explanations. We know that people frequently makes things up and we know that it is quite common for people experience hallucinations otherwise mistaken.

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

A bit of a detour but, as many will know, Donald Trump recently claimed in. Presidential debate that Haitan immigrants in Springfield, Ohio are eating people's pet cats and dogs. This has led to various threats of violence.

We know that the origin of this story was a Facebook post, where a woman claimed she had heard it from a neighbor, who heard it from her daughters' friend, whose cat was eaten. The neighbor has since clarified that she did not hear it from her daughter’s friend and that it was not her cat, but that it was just a rumor she had heard from an acquaintance and she does not believe it to be true. Masses of journalists have tried to uncover a source for the story but so far, the best evidence is that a woman heard a rumor, which she does not believe, from an acquaintance.

Nonetheless, 52% of likely Trump voters believe the claim to be true - which would be in the region of 40 million people.

I don't think it's healthy to have quite so little skepticism and such an absence of skepticism is both very common and potentially very harmful.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:29

Offtheroof · 12/10/2024 22:34

I always find it interesting why some non believers get so defensive about these kinds of subjects. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Why does it make you feel threatened? Not trying to be mean, just a genuine question. If it was all just "bollocks", why would it bother you enough to feel the need to make a snarky comment? Might be something to have a look at.

Yeah this. I feel embarrassed for the haters and beraters on here. Sooooooo angry and defensive - and insistent that what we are talking about is a load of 'bollocks' and 'bullshit,' and we are deluded, blah blah blah... And they don't believe it coz 'they're not batshit crazy' etc etc.

Why so angry about what others believe? And why so rude and aggressive and snarky?

And, after all, you cannot categorically state that it's all bollocks, because you don't know. Stop being so bloody rude and arrogant. You're embarrassing yourselves!

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SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:35

@3hrMax

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

The thing is, in the vast majority of cases, people won't actually HAVE any 'evidence' of time slips.

Just like I can't prove that my husband and I saw an identical car to our green Mazda MX, and two people who looked like us were driving it (in the opposite direction to us!) But it still happened.

Most people will have no way to prove their experience of 'time slips.' You choose to believe them - or not. That's up to you. Maybe it was a hallucination, or maybe they did drop back in time (or forwards) for a few seconds (or minutes.)

No-one knows.

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Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:35

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:29

Yeah this. I feel embarrassed for the haters and beraters on here. Sooooooo angry and defensive - and insistent that what we are talking about is a load of 'bollocks' and 'bullshit,' and we are deluded, blah blah blah... And they don't believe it coz 'they're not batshit crazy' etc etc.

Why so angry about what others believe? And why so rude and aggressive and snarky?

And, after all, you cannot categorically state that it's all bollocks, because you don't know. Stop being so bloody rude and arrogant. You're embarrassing yourselves!

!

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plus if people can believe in god but then dismiss time slips its like omg ???

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:38

Yep!

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:47

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:35

@3hrMax

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

The thing is, in the vast majority of cases, people won't actually HAVE any 'evidence' of time slips.

Just like I can't prove that my husband and I saw an identical car to our green Mazda MX, and two people who looked like us were driving it (in the opposite direction to us!) But it still happened.

Most people will have no way to prove their experience of 'time slips.' You choose to believe them - or not. That's up to you. Maybe it was a hallucination, or maybe they did drop back in time (or forwards) for a few seconds (or minutes.)

No-one knows.

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Edited

Out of interest, do you believe that immigrants are eating people's cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio, and why do you believe (or disbelieve) it?

Incidentally, I'm very happy to believe your story about seeing an identical model/colour car to yours, which was occupied by people who looked very similar to you and your DH. It does not strike my as particularly fantastical (though I do wonder if you'd still think those people looked exactly like you and your DH if you got a longer look at them, rather than what I assume to be a very quick glance - it generally not being easy to closley examine the appearanc of the occupants of a vehicle that's passing you in the opposite direction on a dual carriageway).

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:35

plus if people can believe in god but then dismiss time slips its like omg ???

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

Edingril · 12/10/2024 23:49

Why would time slip for some people and not others?

Clotheshanger · 12/10/2024 23:51

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

There is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any kind of deity.

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:52

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

nope, only various stories written by humans, the same stories as these timeslips ?