To think that gay and lesbian people should be able to have a conference in peace

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Transactivists have tried to disrupt the LGBA conference by releasing insects into the venue. It's disgusting . Because they don't think gay men and lesbians should be allowed to meet peacefully without them.

No one is stopping transpeople from having events by themselves, why shouldn't gay men and lesbians be able to meet if that's what they want to do? It's just repackaged homophobia - same sex attracted people aren't allowed to have their own conference.

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1844763982453670350

What, you think being same sex attracted is racist? 🤔

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As above

So what you're saying is

saying you are a lesbian as a reason not to sleep with someone is like telling someone they are fat? What happened to Gay Pride?

Do you think people should be able to be proud of being same sex attracted @PiggleToes ?

Yes or no? Is that what you meant?

Seems like we're back with Nancy Kelley, blackmailing poor young lesbians into sleeping with men because otherwise they're as bad as racists. 🤦‍♀️

of course people should be proud of their sexuality.

Should they be proud of their transphobia? No.

Or should they not mention that they are lesbian or gay for fear of offending people? The 1950s called, they want their attitudes back.

of course people should be proud of their sexuality.

So then they are ok to say that they are same sex attracted?

So is saying you don't want to sleep with men because you're lesbian being proud of your sexuality or is it transphobic?

what would the ‘delegitimisation of the trans experience mean’?

I don’t think I’m transphobic. I genuinely believe you should be able to dress,date and act as you choose. I don’t think trans people should be able to access the areas reserved for the opposite sex though such as toilets, changing rooms or sports even if they have had surgery. Are my personal rights to single sex spaces delegitimising the trans experience?

@PiggleToes I'm a lesbian and I'm attracted to women. There are lots of things that I am and am not attracted to.

If a trans women hit on me I wouldn't say "no, because you're trans" I would be polite but it would be a no.

Equally if a very tall women hit on me I wouldn't say "no, because you are very tall" I would be polite but it would be a no.

If I was on a date with a person who didn't like to read I wouldn't say "because you don't read" I would be polite but it would be a no.

Why should I feel bad for not being attracted to trans women?

It’s fine to tell anyone you are a lesbian.

its fine to set your own sexual boundaries.

Its not fine to misgender a trans person

telling a trans person to their face that you don’t fancy them cos they are trans , is analogous to telling a fat person you don’t fancy them cos they are fat. It’s just unnecessary and cruel

@PiggleToes is this what you meant?

So then they are ok to say that they are same sex attracted?

That’s totally fine. You aren’t doing anything wrong.

Sure

Btw @PiggleToes I'm not laying this all out for you, it's for the lurkers. Trans rights activists say there is no evidence that there is any conflict of rights between women's rights or LGB rights and "trans rights".

That is self evidently not true.

this thread might've come to a conclusion a long time ago if @PiggleToes had engaged with the discussion in a frank and meaningful way, instead of trotting out the usual meaningless accusations of transphobia where no transphobia is present.

Could you expand on your answer?

I don't know anyone who actually would say no because you are trans / fat / tall / smell funny.

So it feels like you're arguing with clouds of what if at this point.

Also, I know I'm not doing anything wrong.

People screaming TERF on the Internet haven't managed to convince me that I'm doing anything wrong by being a lesbian who likes having sex with women.

Great so a lesbian can be proud or say they are same sex attracted

That excludes anyone based on sex not gender, the key word being sex

I had no wish to argue this point! People are asking me (ridiculous) questions and I was answering them.
probably I should stop .

Also, I know I'm not doing anything wrong

great.

What were you trying to argue?

But not illegal. We don’t all have to be nice all the time