To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!

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Just that really. It's been advertised by the media, plastic surgeons and the beauty industry for years as a safe, temporary procedure, however evidence is now finding that that is not the case at all!
I'm glad the truth is coming out now although it's still so new I expect we won't know the full damage for years too come.

I also found this video particularly interesting if anyone else is interested:

@PepaWepa
No. We can concur that YOU think I am the one being odd

Yet again another example of you not realising that what you think is not the same as fact or indeed what everyone thinks.

You really struggle with understanding this

I think enough people have stated their own opinion here on that fillers make people look disfigured, unnatural, and ultimately "alien-like". It's not 'odd' to disagree with the mindset of somebody choosing to do that to themselves. That's aside from the issues mentioned re blocking the lymphatic system.

One of the issues with fillers is that you don't just have them them once. They need constant topping up, which ultimately do make the face look disfigured and imbalanced, and create further insecurity issues.

I do struggle with understanding why you want to push this on society. I struggle with the fact that it's so accepted, and I worry about the future of my daughter when young girls are being made to feel ugly if they don't conform to this odd standard of 'beauty'.

They don't need constant topping up. Let's be honest this is about your own insecurity.

Personally I think it's great that ugly girls (comme moi!) can improve ourselves a bit if we like. Looks make a difference to how people treat you and how easily you get on in life. Depressing but true.

Oddly the only people I see posting on S and B asking if they need filler are stunningly gorgeous, as are the ones on Insta and in the media who have had filler. The "ugly" ones appear to be happy as they are.

You don't know who is having work done, though.

Surely it's obvious that people in the glamour biz- Katie Price, Abbey Clancey, Michelle Keegan, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Aniston etc etc- have all had work. They were all beautiful before. Which begs the question: when is beautiful enough? I suspect the answer is never. Ever.

Your argument that people who don't use fillers are insecure is laughable, from where I am sitting.

Obviously a divisive topic because those who’ve had them feel attacked. Understandable. I’m sure it is true there will be some who have it done well and it’s not noticeable.

But those people with the “good” fillers are still suffering all the known issues with migration, even if it’s not yet visible; plus quite possibly other issues that haven’t been proven yet.

Calling people irrational because they think the risk-reward ratio is off there is bonkers.

Well yes and if Nicole Kidman can’t afford natural-looking fillers, I’m sure as hell not taking the risk with the dodgy practitioners my budget would stretch to.

Don’t get me wrong, I struggle to make peace with my aging face. As many women do. And I am not even 40 yet! But I believe a key part of reaching that acceptance is not constantly trying to get back to what I had before. If I view every change as something I could potentially “fix”, where will it end? How will I feel when I’m in my 60s and things are getting less and less “fixable”? It’s a bleak outlook.

As for very young women who are getting fillers. Their future is even bleaker.

Not people who don't use them. People who care if anyone else does. I know some people think it's unfair because real 45 looks very different from "tweaked" 45.

No, it's not. I don't really have any insecurities if I'm honest, and maybe that's what it comes down to. I can't for the life of me understand why somebody wants to change their face like that when it doesn't even look good. It really does look odd.
And they do need constant topping up. I have two friends who have lip fillers and they go for regular top ups to keep them that way. A friend of a friend who I have on FB has cheek filler and her photos remind me of the thing from SAW.
I genuinely don't understand it.

The fillers are to stop you looking like ET.! If they’re properly done, no one could tell.
I think a little filler perhaps once a year is ok, but not the liquid face lift where filler is injected at points all over the face.

Only time will tell if the lymphatic systems is impacted with these products.

It not ok to promote things just because they give people confidence.

Like sun beds of the past.

Despite the popularity of tanning at one time now the risks associated with sunbed use have led to increased regulation and public health campaigns discouraging their use. Some countries have even banned their use altogether for minors.

Katie Price is a good example. She was absolutely beautiful before she started having work.

ETA: all of them were beautiful, especially Michelle Keegan. Katie Price is just a good example as she's gone so ott and looks so bad, but started out with such a pretty face.

I think it looks awful but people are going to do it anyway, like so many other things. Friends of mine get it done, mostly in their 50s but one is only in her 20s. I’m just going to get old (dis)gracefully.

In fact, she's now advocating for young people not to have them.

"I think everyone looks like an alien these days"

Actually, I see more cases of beautiful women totally disfigured by this stuff. I think it´s addictive.

Imagine what Kim Kardashian might have looked like if she had aged naturally. In her case it’s more than just fillers, but they won’t have helped.

She was jaw-droppingly gorgeous before she started having work done. And has the kind of olive skin that would age really well.

She is still gorgeous of course, but she looks a lot more like a generic rich LA housewife who could be anything between 40 and 60. She doesn’t look enormously younger than her mother.

I would be incredibly wary of filler. You see the likes of Simon Cowell, who can presumably afford the best treatment - and he almost looks disfigured by it. I fear David Beckham is also heading in that direction. Both filler and Botox subtlety adjust the proportions of the face. At first it looks great - but when 'tweakments' are made those proportions keep changing. So you end up with people with small looking eyes - almost Santa clause like.

The squaring of the jaw etc - whilst looks good initially becomes overdone and people just start to look weird. You can't put your finger on it but they just don't look right.

I am sure some people get the balance right - and they just look like a better, fresher version of themselves but the risk is that 'top ups' will eventually take their toll and the proportions, even if just slightly, go out and then the look is jarring. I think that people get so used to seeing their own faces in the mirror they don't notice these subtle changes but other people do.

Also whilst it can look good face on - or in a selfie, at certain angles the work becomes really noticeable - the face starts to look rubbery and mask like.

I have been watching Married At First Sight - so many of the women have had obvious facial fillers. It just looks weird - and sort of gives people a look like they are constantly dribbling or something. It is so sad as these are young women, late twenties/early thirties.

The best thing that ever happened to me, in a weird way, was temporarily becoming quite enormous for a few months due to a severe reaction to steroids (so large and strange looking people would yell abuse at me on the street).

I learnt to love myself, not my reflection. I discovered I have value what ever I look like. I think I kind of knew ew that anyway but it gave me huge strength to live with being judged every time I left the house.

Endless tweaks won't make you love yourself any more

I've never understood why people have fillers in the first place, surely it doesn't take a genius to imagine that having stuff injected into your body - purely for reasons of vanity or wanting to look like some D-list 'celebrity' - is not a good idea. The time and energy spent on this would be better served by getting more education and getting away from the mindset that how your face look is the most important thing in your life.

(Not rtft). What about using fat for fillers? Friend had some abdominal fat lipo’ed then injected into top lip to improve profile. All done by plastic surgeon.

I would be interested in this, who was the plastic surgeon? How much was that