Survey at work using the term cis woman

[SuzanneRogers]

So I filled all the survey, very happy at work, public secror.
Note that this survey is outsourced by another survey organisation.

Then I come to the last bit please describe your role in the organisation, did that, and then how would you describe your sex or gender?

( Can’t remember exactly how the question was phrased )but the only option for women was “cis woman.”

Quite cross about this and I’m not sure how to best articulate this to my managers who, to be fair never use this term and will not have had any input to designing the survey. Any input welcome.

Exactly. It can be explained in the "other" box for those who want to make the point.

Would reply with factual comment that it doesn’t align with your beliefs and what do they suggest you do given the Forstater case.

No. I’m a woman. I’m not a made up nonsense cis-woman.

If the whole point is inclusion and allowing you to identify as whatever you want, then why can’t I identify as a woman… plain and simply. Why do I have to validate the beliefs of others when I don’t believe in them. I’m a woman; not a cis woman and I won’t identify as one.

We already have a word describing what we are. We don’t need another made up word.

this sort of attitude is why the gender identity stats gathered in the last census have been downgraded because there suddenly appeared to be a larger percentage of trans people living within deprived `London boroughs with a higher proportion of English as a second language speakers then there were living in the likes of Brighton. Please stop trying to tell people how to identify themselves.

That's your opinion. Views vary.

It’s the other way around actually. If you think you are a woman but you aren’t then you are trans.

I regard the word cis as a gender slur concocted and weaponised by the trans movement. It is both degrading and demeaning to have my sex reduced to a word used to other women by a mob who want to eradicate women's rights to their own pronouns and spaces. The correct word to describe an adult human female is a woman. Note that doesn't include men who refer to themselves as women. They are men.

Everyone knows what ‘cis’ means. It means ‘born as’ - just tick that and get on with your day. So sick of people making a fuss when there is no fuss to be made about things like this. Be thankful that you were born the sex that you identify with.
So much unnecessary hate and nonsense around all this. Worry about actual issues going on in the world.

and yes, I am a woman, ‘cis’ woman, female, girl, senorita, Mrs, Ms, Miss, whatever - who cares?

I am a woman, not any kind of woman, just a woman.

I don’t have a gender identity.

I’d have to tick ‘other’ and type in WOMAN.

I’m pretty new to realising this is starting to be a hill I am prepared to die on.

No such thing as a CIS woman. You’re either a man or a woman or a Transgender person who believes in sex stereotypes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

You really don’t get it, do you? 🤦🏻‍♀️

As always on transphobic threads. Please for the love of god educate yourselves on the difference between sex and gender. If you don’t ‘believe’ in gender ideology then you can’t really describe yourself as a woman 😅 you’d simply be a female!

Yes - in fact, more like being forced to choose from 'heathen', 'infidel' or similar - rather than atheist, agnostic, humanist or similar.

It's not much different from them offering just two sex options, as they would have for thousands of years until recently, but deliberately making you choose from 'man' or 'non-man' rather than man or woman.

We'd have people coming to 'educate' us that, if you aren't a man, then you are a 'non-man' and you are being petty and stupid to cavil or object to this.

Interesting how some people are allowed to pick their own 'identities', but the majority of us are told how we should identify (according to how THEY choose to categorise us), and are just assumed not to want or be entitled to the same privilege.

Does it also say CIS Man?

The OP said it did.

If you look very carefully I think you will find that it isn’t women making the fuss. We are ( with some exceptions) quite happy to be called women. So we haven’t felt the need to invent new words to describe ourselves.

how do you work that one out?

Who cares what the men think, They aren't losing their single sex spaces & sports to men as a result of this ideology.

What a world when just saying you're a woman is now classed as "other" 😩

Because being a women defines your gender, if you don’t believe in gender (as a PP has said) then you only identify with your sex - a biological trait (male or female)

I don't know what cis means, nor do I want to.

Just don't complete the survey, a low uptake in these things is taken more seriously than the result.

Absolutely ridiculous.

The word woman has been used to describe female people long before some blokes started wearing dresses and decided to identify as 'the most oppressed'.

Men who claim to have gender identity are not women. They are men. HTH.

In case my fellow women haven’t seen this.

10/10 ie XX day

This articulates my feelings far better than I could. Spot on

'Woman' = 'Adult Human Female' 🤷‍♂️