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To make DS go to uni open day even though he came in at 4am?

163 replies

Redcase · 05/10/2024 06:37

I’m raging right now and need some more clear headed opinions. Me and DH are due to take DS to uni open day today. It’s a 3 hour drive each way and we should leave at 8:30.
DS went out last night and had been told by DH to not be late as DH wasn’t going to drive to uni city and back if DS was going to be a hungover zombie. Woke up at 3:30am and DS wasn’t home. DH rang him and after a bit of an argument, DS got a taxi home arriving back at 4am.
DH says we now shouldn’t go as this is what he said would be the consequence and ground DS.There is another open day in November. I’m not sure if we should still make DS go and honour the commitment.
We are working hard saving for uni and I picked up extra shifts last weekend so this is my first day off in 13 days. DS knows this and I think my tiredness and feeling of him taking the piss could be clouding my judgement.
Any advice? TIA

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 05/10/2024 11:49

bendmeoverbackwards · 05/10/2024 11:45

Really? You don’t think if you’re paying £9K for tuition you don’t want to see what you’re getting for your money?

Give me more information about how you can see what you're getting for your money - do you mean if you don't like the look of what you see (but your child does) you'd tell them they can't go? What would you see on an open day that would cause you to refuse to support your child going?

NancyJoan · 05/10/2024 11:49

aodirjjd · 05/10/2024 11:33

what university isn’t accessible by public transport?

And yeah some unis are far away and require an overnight stay. That’s just how it is. Some insist on it (like Durham did when I went) because it gives you a better view of what it’s like.

Public transport is expensive. Hotels are also expensive (and many won’t allow a booking for an under 18 yr old). Having to shell out easily £200 plus to get to an open day and stay overnight is not possible for many young people; a long road trip with mum or dad is more affordable.

Underlig · 05/10/2024 11:50

bendmeoverbackwards · 05/10/2024 11:45

Really? You don’t think if you’re paying £9K for tuition you don’t want to see what you’re getting for your money?

Who’s paying that? Not the parents.

Underlig · 05/10/2024 11:51

NancyJoan · 05/10/2024 11:49

Public transport is expensive. Hotels are also expensive (and many won’t allow a booking for an under 18 yr old). Having to shell out easily £200 plus to get to an open day and stay overnight is not possible for many young people; a long road trip with mum or dad is more affordable.

Most people don’t have cars where I live, so it’d be even more expensive if parents tag along too.

Frogmarch89 · 05/10/2024 11:53

At that age I could get home at 4am and do a full days work. He will be fine.

Hairyfairy01 · 05/10/2024 11:55

Great outcome. At that age I could stagger in at 5am and still do a full day of work starting at 8:30 after a bacon bap. Take me days to recover nowdays mind!

bendmeoverbackwards · 05/10/2024 11:59

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/10/2024 11:49

Give me more information about how you can see what you're getting for your money - do you mean if you don't like the look of what you see (but your child does) you'd tell them they can't go? What would you see on an open day that would cause you to refuse to support your child going?

No don’t be silly, no one is suggesting they ‘can’t go’. But having an extra pair of eyes and ears is useful when paying for tuition fees. Of course MN thinks once your child turns 18 they are a fully fledged adult and should make all big decisions by themselves 😂

Plus I quite liked going to open days with my dd. She chose which unis she wanted to see and took the lead on the plan for the day, I was there for company mainly (and driving!).

ToNiceWithSpice · 05/10/2024 11:59

I think parents paying so much towards it is part of the problem, some of them seem to think it gives them the right to interfer in their dcs choice

Also kids are used to being driven around now, its not surprising some choice to take parents along rather than spend the time getting trains

ThinWomansBrain · 05/10/2024 12:01

maybe it would be better to make a decision about whether he wants to go to university when he is mature enough to decide, rather than be railroaded itno it by pushy parents.

coffeesaveslives · 05/10/2024 12:03

ToNiceWithSpice · 05/10/2024 11:59

I think parents paying so much towards it is part of the problem, some of them seem to think it gives them the right to interfer in their dcs choice

Also kids are used to being driven around now, its not surprising some choice to take parents along rather than spend the time getting trains

But isn't it also unrealistic to expect parents to just drop thousands of pounds on something they have absolutely no control (or say) over?

aintnohollabackgurl · 05/10/2024 12:04

ThinWomansBrain · 05/10/2024 12:01

maybe it would be better to make a decision about whether he wants to go to university when he is mature enough to decide, rather than be railroaded itno it by pushy parents.

Edited

So many assumptions being made on so little information..

BumpyaDaisyevna · 05/10/2024 12:07

Redcase · 05/10/2024 09:25

We’re on our way. I woke him and calmly asked if he wanted to go. I said we would take him if he wanted but we are leaving it up to him to make the decision. He said he wanted to go.
So all done in a calm way with no talk of punishment or groundings 🙈! The only possible punishment is I’m in charge of the playlist 😂.
He’s chatting away and no signs of vomiting for the posters who were worried about that! Oh to have a teenage liver!
Thanks for helping me to get things into perspective. He only knows I’m doing extra shifts, not that I’m saving for uni.
This is my first AIBU post and appreciate the helpful replies.
Looking forward to a good day out just the three of us and hopefully the chance to say there’s no problem if he decides uni is not for him.
Thanks and hope you enjoy your weekend

Ah glad to hear this - I wondered what the outcome would be!

Your DS sounds like a mature lad.

Bestyearever2024 · 05/10/2024 12:10

Well done DS 👏 👍

aintnohollabackgurl · 05/10/2024 12:12

@BumpyaDaisyevna I agree, he sounds like a good kid and OP isn't used to this sort of thing from him.

Don't over react to what happened, it really wasn't that bad.

FanofLeaves · 05/10/2024 12:16

aodirjjd · 05/10/2024 11:33

what university isn’t accessible by public transport?

And yeah some unis are far away and require an overnight stay. That’s just how it is. Some insist on it (like Durham did when I went) because it gives you a better view of what it’s like.

Never said there were unis not accessible by public transport though. I said they were not all in cities, and were not all a reasonable journey to undertake via public transport in a single day (which OBVIOUSLY depends on where you’re travelling from)

dreamer24 · 05/10/2024 12:17

WillowTit · 05/10/2024 10:43

teenagers recover from hangovers sickeningly easy! blast it!

Indeed they do! My 18 year old DD got home from a night out at 3.30am - she was up by 10am and is currently playing with her toddler sister 😯 Very envious! I'd be rocking in a corner trying not to vomit if I'd rolled in at that time 🤣

Notreat · 05/10/2024 12:19

oneisoneandallalone · 05/10/2024 06:42

Does he want to go to uni? Maybe he's feeling pushed in that direction and staying out late is a way of saying he doesn't want to to do open days.

This was my first thought.
It is his future and he should be the one taking responsibility for it. It sounds as he isn't really bothered.
There comes a time when young people need to take responsibility for their own actions.

Notreat · 05/10/2024 12:26

I wrote my response before I saw your update.
I hope you all enjoy the open day.

Trinity65 · 05/10/2024 12:32

coffeesaveslives · 05/10/2024 07:07

It sounds like there's a lot of pressure around him going to university.

The fact that you're choosing to do loads of overtime and have worked 13 day straight - does he know that he's the reason behind that? Because it sounds really unhealthy for everyone for there to be so much stress and pressure.

I felt really pressured to going to university by my parents and honestly, it was a colossal waste of time and money and I didn't enjoy it. I wouldn't force him to go an open day - use the time to figure out what he really wants instead, and stop working silly hours!

Edited

I agree with all you posted. Would have put much the same

Cannot comment re Uni as I never went

My highest qualification is O Level History anyway so I wouldn't have got in to a Uni with that (1981 I ended school).
I did go to college though for a Year and it did work out as I always got jobs (I done an Office/Secretarial course) until I left work to have my first born that is.
Then (and now) when I seek work in admin many say Graduates Welcome .. That's Me at 60 practically worthless.

However, I am glad I did go to college because I was employed all the way up till I left my last job. Good jobs I had too . :(

Shinyandnew1 · 05/10/2024 12:36

I was made to feel like I had to go uni and have regretted it so I don’t feel like we have put pressure on him to do so

Hmmm, your whole post felt rather pressurised to be honest. I would just leave him to it. My DC has just finished a degree at a university he didn’t go to an open day for at all because of Covid. All was well!

DniHnly · 05/10/2024 17:48

aodirjjd · 05/10/2024 07:17

I think teens should go to open days by themselves. I know it’s common but it seems infantilising for parents to take them.

Hard agree. Why do the parents need to be there? I went to all of mine in my own and made my mind up! Too much mollycoddling these days.

DniHnly · 05/10/2024 17:49

Yunula · 05/10/2024 07:32

Why you are saving OP? Are the student finance options he will get not be enough? I got a part time job during uni and it worked great.

And this? You're working overtime and saving when going to uni is a back up option for him as he wants to do an apprenticeship?

This sounds all wayyy too much. Step back.

ToNiceWithSpice · 05/10/2024 19:02

coffeesaveslives · 05/10/2024 12:03

But isn't it also unrealistic to expect parents to just drop thousands of pounds on something they have absolutely no control (or say) over?

That's just the way ot is, if your child wants to go to uni and you also want them to go then suck it up. I don't think it gives you the right to choose what they do and where they go

bendmeoverbackwards · 06/10/2024 11:48

DniHnly · 05/10/2024 17:48

Hard agree. Why do the parents need to be there? I went to all of mine in my own and made my mind up! Too much mollycoddling these days.

How did you get there @DniHnly ? If you can afford expensive train fares you’re very lucky.

bendmeoverbackwards · 06/10/2024 11:50

ToNiceWithSpice · 05/10/2024 19:02

That's just the way ot is, if your child wants to go to uni and you also want them to go then suck it up. I don't think it gives you the right to choose what they do and where they go

FFS, it’s not about ‘choosing’. Of course the choice of uni and course are the student’s decision. But in making that decision it’s helpful to have some input from a parent who might see things they haven’t considered.

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