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Just because I'm there doesn't mean I'm free childcare

364 replies

itsmeits · 04/10/2024 07:13

I go out once a week and take my DDs with me 7 and 13. It's a social evening thing, the girls love it, there are different activities on.
My sister has started coming fine no issue with that. Her mate is now coming with her DD 8
This is where the issue is. They swan off for 15-30 min cig breaks and leave the child unattended. Going for a cig is the announcement and off they pop.
Last night child of sisters friend was messing about and has hurt themselves, mum nowhere to be seen for over 20mins.
I am being blamed for not watching the child 😳
Apparently announcing I'm going for a cig is que for me to watch her child - never have either said can you watch DD while I nip out. Plus I don't know this child, met her a few times that's it.
When this happened I should have been sat with/watching her DD not participating in an activity my DDs wanted to do.

My sister is trying to rip me a new one and her friend has threatened to report me to SS for neglect, as it was my neglect (according to them) that has caused this hospital visit and her to be reported to SS.

Should I have watched this child
YANBU you have your DDs she needs to step up
YABU she's a single mum provide free cig breaks child care for her

OP posts:
Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/10/2024 09:10

mumsinnets · 04/10/2024 08:43

Is the event Bingo? Walked past and never seen so many smoking women outside. 🤮

What a horrible attitude you have. You think you’re a cut above them clearly. I don’t think you are judging by this comment.

Dennaes · 04/10/2024 09:14

Excellent response.
Your sister is a right nasty piece of work to blame you.
Her friend is a disgrace.
I would add that you have established that the CCTV is available for viewing and you will be happy to tell SS this too.

You need to distance yourself from them, and tell the rest of your family why.

Poor child, clearly neglected.

Tellysavelas · 04/10/2024 09:16

Let us know her response, OP.

I hope you make it clear to sis she is no longer welcome to join you if she asks to come again.

Sooverwork · 04/10/2024 09:17

DoreenonTill8 · 04/10/2024 07:19

So she's happy for you to speak to SS and confirm all the times she's abandoned her child?

Good point. Write down all the times she’s left her child unattended.

HighPrecisionGhosts · 04/10/2024 09:22

Oooh @itsmeits - love your message to.your sister.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 04/10/2024 09:22

theeyeofdoe · 04/10/2024 07:20

Just tell her to report you.
make it clear you are not looking after her child.

This

Bring it on I’d say

Newoldnameplease · 04/10/2024 09:22

Lengokengo · 04/10/2024 07:50

You are completely in your right to hold your defence.

i have a relative who seems to think that every time we are in an extended family group, that ‘family’ are keeping an eye on her child. She has two boys, one of whom is easy/ placid , the other is definitely not! She and her DH will always wander off at a family event and thus not be remotely keeping an eye on this one boy, it looks casual but it is a deliberate pattern!

They also take the furthest seats away from this boy when eating at a family meal. I really notice it as am on the look out for it now having been stung in the past. You have to be utterly vigilant otherwise you are dumped with the responsibility and saying ‘no don’t climb up there, leave that alone, put that stick down etc etc.’ Now that is mostly left to MIL and older grandchildren as they are the only ones who don’t actively avoid picking up the childcare slack. Once you notice the avoidance of parenting it’s hard to unsee.

Same here. Two incidents to date are: the 3 year-old found wandering in the road alone by a passer by and the 5 year-old climbing graves and pulling a gravestone over into themselves whilst mum and dad were chatting inside the church.

Onemoreterm · 04/10/2024 09:26

Her friend is not your friend iyswim

good message to sister

StormingNorman · 04/10/2024 09:27

YoYoYoYo12345 · 04/10/2024 07:32

Announcement of cig break doesn't imply you are totally responsible for my child. Doesn't work like that.

@itsmeits they are unreasonable. Enjoy your time with your own children. The mum needs to step up and supervise her own children 🙄

I think you misread my post because that’s not what I said.

Caramellie3 · 04/10/2024 09:29

It sounds like you knew what happened before the parent. As the parent disappeared for 20 minutes. It also sounds like the child had an accident that would have happened whether you or the parent was watching. Ss are more likely to want to know what the parent disappeared for. Not you.

Strictlymad · 04/10/2024 09:31

Yes that’s perfect!

Belle82 · 04/10/2024 09:31

Sorry, but what a pair of a**eholes.
SS will not even bat an eyelid at you, but that mother wants to be a bit worried.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/10/2024 09:33

itsmeits · 04/10/2024 07:58

I have just sent my sister the below

I have been attending this night for the last 2.5 years and 1.5 years with the girls. You and friend have been coming approximately 8 weeks. Every week you and friend have left 8Y unattended when you go for cigs. Not once was I asked to watch child just expected. I am sorry that child has been hurt, however I attend to participate with my children not look after others. If she wants a child free night out get a babysitter like the rest of us. Tell your friend i am happy to speak to SS on her behalf and explain the abysmal attitude I have seen her show over the last 8 weeks. I am also happy to explain to them what I do with my children while in attendance.
I'm not entertaining this any longer, I am not to blame for her failings. Have a good day I'm off to work now.

Bravo!!

HighPrecisionGhosts · 04/10/2024 09:37

20mins for a fag. How big is this fag?

Demonhunter · 04/10/2024 09:39

If it is true that she has been reported to SS for an 8 yr olf child having an accident in a public place, it mustn't be the first time accidents are on record. My boys have had a few accidents being boisterous out and about, including broken bones due to football accidents. Not once have SS been threatened or been in touch about it.

Demonhunter · 04/10/2024 09:41

HighPrecisionGhosts · 04/10/2024 09:37

20mins for a fag. How big is this fag?

I think it was like this...

Just because I'm there doesn't mean I'm free childcare
Wheresthebeach · 04/10/2024 09:41

No no no...tell them you will have nothing to do with looking after the child. Be very clear, you weren't in charge of them, and never will be. They are being awful.

AnonymousBleep · 04/10/2024 09:41

Demonhunter · 04/10/2024 09:39

If it is true that she has been reported to SS for an 8 yr olf child having an accident in a public place, it mustn't be the first time accidents are on record. My boys have had a few accidents being boisterous out and about, including broken bones due to football accidents. Not once have SS been threatened or been in touch about it.

Yeah that was my thought. My daughter broke her arm falling off her skateboard at roughly that age and there was no whiff of SS involvement. There must be more to this for it to be reported to SS (by whom?).

Anyway, no, obviously you're not responsible for someone else's kid unless they've explicitly asked you and you've agreed.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 04/10/2024 09:41

itsmeits · 04/10/2024 07:58

I have just sent my sister the below

I have been attending this night for the last 2.5 years and 1.5 years with the girls. You and friend have been coming approximately 8 weeks. Every week you and friend have left 8Y unattended when you go for cigs. Not once was I asked to watch child just expected. I am sorry that child has been hurt, however I attend to participate with my children not look after others. If she wants a child free night out get a babysitter like the rest of us. Tell your friend i am happy to speak to SS on her behalf and explain the abysmal attitude I have seen her show over the last 8 weeks. I am also happy to explain to them what I do with my children while in attendance.
I'm not entertaining this any longer, I am not to blame for her failings. Have a good day I'm off to work now.

Well done for not letting them bully you with this.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 04/10/2024 09:42

You’re sister sounds a nasty price of work, I’d have went one step more and suggested they curb their addiction as they are clearly putting their addiction effort the safely of their children.

mumsinnets · 04/10/2024 09:46

Babadookinthewardrobe · 04/10/2024 09:10

What a horrible attitude you have. You think you’re a cut above them clearly. I don’t think you are judging by this comment.

I just hate smoking, especially as 20 of them were all standing outside the shops.
It’s disgusting and extremely selfish.
I’m not judging Bingo, just thought it might be.

Caroparo52 · 04/10/2024 09:47

Not your responsibility. Don't mix with the stupid cow again. She knows she was irresponsible and feels guilty.

MarvellousMrsMouse01 · 04/10/2024 09:48

Perfect message OP! Waiting patiently now for an update on the reply... 😂🍿

ApricotLime · 04/10/2024 09:48

itsmeits · 04/10/2024 07:58

I have just sent my sister the below

I have been attending this night for the last 2.5 years and 1.5 years with the girls. You and friend have been coming approximately 8 weeks. Every week you and friend have left 8Y unattended when you go for cigs. Not once was I asked to watch child just expected. I am sorry that child has been hurt, however I attend to participate with my children not look after others. If she wants a child free night out get a babysitter like the rest of us. Tell your friend i am happy to speak to SS on her behalf and explain the abysmal attitude I have seen her show over the last 8 weeks. I am also happy to explain to them what I do with my children while in attendance.
I'm not entertaining this any longer, I am not to blame for her failings. Have a good day I'm off to work now.

Good reply.

DeliciousApples · 04/10/2024 09:54

Good reply.

If needs be I likes @MrsBennetsPoorNerves reply as a follow up if required.

It doesn't take 20 mins to smoke a fag. My boss used to take 10 mins start to finish including getting to the smoking shelter so we didn't have to hold the fort too long. That's consideration fir others.

Inclined to think your sister is too busy smoking fags and undertaking ineffective parenting in general and needs a good kick up the backside. I think SS have bigger fish to fry though so unlikely it will be them.

If she asked you and only gone for ten mins that'd have been fine. She expects and goes for 20 and leaves you with a friends child also - not fine. Cheeky.

Maybe you should show her this thread.