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Illuminati, real or not?

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PifandHercule · 03/10/2024 20:33

I’ve been seeing a lot of online content about the Illuminati lately.
Does anyone have any first hand accounts of their existence?
So many conspiracies these days, it’s hard to know what to believe.

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:28

Childfreecatlady · 05/10/2024 19:28

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us?srsltid=AfmBOorqUGaTMGQZFeVyiuYxTV1bYQrusuxqTw_Pz3LnKTnWCrjleNF_

The possession and demon nonsense is Christian scaremongering. The satanic panic was a hoax, moral panic, baseless conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated claims. There has been no single verified claim of satanic abuse or sacrifice, yet there have been plenty of verified claims of abuse by those practicing every other religion. We all know the true evil in this world and it always comes from religion.

Also, just fyi, I'm not a satanist I'm an atheist. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of blaming satanism for all the evil in the world.

Many adults have said that they were satanically abused. And human sacrifice is as old as the world (Aztecs, Celts, Vikings etc etc etc). Its been going on for 1000s of years. People offer up innocents to their gods. Please stop gaslighting by saying this never took place. It did take place, and it does take place.

Garlicbest · 05/10/2024 20:33

@Ladyof2024 - Daily Express, February 1957.

Re democracy: All 20 mentions of Bilderberg in Hansard, starting 1973.

Don't see why you want detailed minutes of every meeting every Parliamentary representative attends; what would you do with them?

Illuminati, real or not?
Childfreecatlady · 05/10/2024 20:33

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:28

Many adults have said that they were satanically abused. And human sacrifice is as old as the world (Aztecs, Celts, Vikings etc etc etc). Its been going on for 1000s of years. People offer up innocents to their gods. Please stop gaslighting by saying this never took place. It did take place, and it does take place.

Many adults said it so it must be true, right? Again, there has been no substantiated claim of SATANIC human sacrifice. Yes human sacrifice has been around forever, not the same thing as satanic sacrifice now is it? Why don't you actually do some research, it's not hard to find proof that the satanic panic was simply a load of nonsense.

But by all means, continue making up shit to satisfy your own rhetoric, that is what Christians have been doing for centuries.

Ohnotrobbieagain · 05/10/2024 20:34

@BoundaryGirl3939 What are MK’d adults?

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:39

Childfreecatlady · 05/10/2024 20:33

Many adults said it so it must be true, right? Again, there has been no substantiated claim of SATANIC human sacrifice. Yes human sacrifice has been around forever, not the same thing as satanic sacrifice now is it? Why don't you actually do some research, it's not hard to find proof that the satanic panic was simply a load of nonsense.

But by all means, continue making up shit to satisfy your own rhetoric, that is what Christians have been doing for centuries.

Took place 5 minutes from where I work

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/herald/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7/27980749.html

I'm off to say my Rosary now🙏 God bless atheist cat lady (who also defends satanism).

New inquest into 1973 Satanic killing of boy (7)

AN inquest has been held into the death of boy (7), it's claimed was killed by his teenage satanic neighbour in Dublin almost 40 years ago.

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/herald/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7/27980749.html

Demonhunter · 05/10/2024 20:39

bringslight · 03/10/2024 21:16

it is also well documented that Hitler experimented with occult stuff

The Thule Society, yes!

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:41

Ohnotrobbieagain · 05/10/2024 20:34

@BoundaryGirl3939 What are MK’d adults?

My understanding is that they are adults who were so severly abused as children that they don't know who they are any more, and are easy to control and brainwash.

Rummly · 05/10/2024 20:43

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:31

One case of a satanic killing - https://m.independent.ie/regionals/herald/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7/27980749.html

I know of another very high profile one that took place a few years ago in which the teenage perpetrators were satanists.

I can’t speak for Ireland. But there have thorough investigations in England and claims of satanic abuse have been found to be a crock of shit.

Childfreecatlady · 05/10/2024 20:43

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/10/2024 20:39

Took place 5 minutes from where I work

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/herald/new-inquest-into-1973-satanic-killing-of-boy-7/27980749.html

I'm off to say my Rosary now🙏 God bless atheist cat lady (who also defends satanism).

Just says surrounded by religious objects, doesn't sound like satanism to me, def sounds like some Christian nut job.

Should I share with you the thousands of articles of Catholic priests who molested children? Or how about the Muslim fundamentalists who strapped suicide vests to children? Hey, how about the Christians who bombed women's clinics?

Yeah, religion can fuck off, have fun with your hypocrisy, who better to learn about morality from than your pedofile priest. Eye roll

Demonhunter · 05/10/2024 20:50

With regards to the Satanic rituals, I don't know. Some victims of a certain big scandal happening at the moment have described some satanic ritualistic like behaviour. Now, I know one should be sceptical, but the descriptions were similar to what was described in Torey Haydens book Ghost Girl that I read back in the 90s. It does make you think there could be something in it, when different sources, from different eras are describing very similar occurrences.

Soonenough · 05/10/2024 20:52

Of course it is real. And they have joined forces with people in Springfield to eat up all the cats and dogs. Then nobody will have pets and will be totally at their mercy .

Shakeoffyourchains · 05/10/2024 21:24

Demonhunter · 05/10/2024 20:50

With regards to the Satanic rituals, I don't know. Some victims of a certain big scandal happening at the moment have described some satanic ritualistic like behaviour. Now, I know one should be sceptical, but the descriptions were similar to what was described in Torey Haydens book Ghost Girl that I read back in the 90s. It does make you think there could be something in it, when different sources, from different eras are describing very similar occurrences.

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What's the difference between satanic ritualistic behaviour and say, Christian ritualistic behaviour?

I mean some Christian's pretend to feast on the flesh and blood of their saviour each week, others privately and publicly practice self flagellation or mortification of the flesh, some even re-enact crucifixions.

Given organised religion's track record I'd say there's a far higher chance any ritualistic abuse is come from that side than the Satanist's side. But even if it was Satanists, they could always just do what the religious do whenever their church's abuse is exposed and claim that the perpetrators aren't representative of the faith and are not true Christians/Muslims/whatever.

Demonhunter · 05/10/2024 22:12

Shakeoffyourchains · 05/10/2024 21:24

What's the difference between satanic ritualistic behaviour and say, Christian ritualistic behaviour?

I mean some Christian's pretend to feast on the flesh and blood of their saviour each week, others privately and publicly practice self flagellation or mortification of the flesh, some even re-enact crucifixions.

Given organised religion's track record I'd say there's a far higher chance any ritualistic abuse is come from that side than the Satanist's side. But even if it was Satanists, they could always just do what the religious do whenever their church's abuse is exposed and claim that the perpetrators aren't representative of the faith and are not true Christians/Muslims/whatever.

Maybe so. I'm not religious so your outrage is wasted on me 😂 I'm just piping up with the similarities between the two, with one being talked about now and one being the true story of a little girl in the 80s.

Garlicbest · 06/10/2024 13:05

Look, there will be Satanists. There's a cult for any and every supernatural entity, just as there's a sexual fetish for anything you can think of. Some are just a handful of people, others are globally prevalent.

It's not unusual for sexual and religious interests to coincide. Most religions, small or large, fetishise violence (look at the emblem of Christianity!), so it stands to reason that sexual violence will find common purpose with some elements of religiosity.

The fact that Satan is viewed as evil by some of the world's largest religions doesn't make it any worse than any other belief - but does make it more likely to attract people wanting to do things they consider evil. There will be some amongst them who combine an interest in sexual violence with Satanism - just as some members of other religions combine their similar interests.

The problem isn't the supposed supernatural entities being invoked by one group or another, it's the violence. Perpetrators simply use religious rituals to wrap their crimes in a veil of meaning, whether they claim to be beating evil spirits out of a child or imbuing choir boys with Christ's message.

In the Irish murder linked above, the victim's body was found with a silver cup and communion wafers. He was tied to the rafters, and I bet he was tied in a crucifixion pose. It's unlikely to have been a Satanist murder, although it doesn't matter which entity the perpetrator thought he was honouring. What matters is the crime.

Modern paganism - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_paganism

QueenMegan · 06/10/2024 13:15

Not this old shite again.

It gained momentum under lock down. Seems those who feel their life has no control or suffer with anxiety are susceptible to explain the unexpected. Eg Covid vaccines are evil. The moon landings never happened. To think all governments are in co hoots is the biggest crock of shit. There is absolutely no credible evidence bit that won't stop a conspiracy theorist. They are deluded and distrust everyone. It can lead to mental illness and is very sad.

Everlore · 06/10/2024 13:54

I understand why many vulnerable people are attracted to these type of conspiracy theories. I imagine it is much more comforting to believe there is a sinister, shadowy cabal of omnipotent puppet-masters working together to pull the strings of global events in order to benefit them and their associates in some mysterious and nefarious way and further some long-term plan for world-domination.
It must be far more comforting to believe that everything that happens in the world is part of some grand over-arching plan controlled by master manipulators rather than face the far more scary reality that most of the world is sadly run by people who have little idea what they are doing and no long-term plans for their own countries, let a lone for the rest of the world!

Rummly · 06/10/2024 14:04

Everlore · 06/10/2024 13:54

I understand why many vulnerable people are attracted to these type of conspiracy theories. I imagine it is much more comforting to believe there is a sinister, shadowy cabal of omnipotent puppet-masters working together to pull the strings of global events in order to benefit them and their associates in some mysterious and nefarious way and further some long-term plan for world-domination.
It must be far more comforting to believe that everything that happens in the world is part of some grand over-arching plan controlled by master manipulators rather than face the far more scary reality that most of the world is sadly run by people who have little idea what they are doing and no long-term plans for their own countries, let a lone for the rest of the world!

And that our lives are determined so often by chance.

So much easier to blame some group or other than face the truth of human fallibility and impersonal, uncontrollable chance.

Quacksalver · 06/10/2024 14:28

MissEsmeWatson · 03/10/2024 22:43

I read books by Robert Anton Wilson years and years ago that had a lot about the illuninati. They made a lot of sense then, and although my views on most things have changed over the years, they still make sense. I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure.

IMMANENTISE THE ESCHATON!

MissEsmeWatson · 06/10/2024 14:54

Que?

Quacksalver · 06/10/2024 15:35

MissEsmeWatson · 06/10/2024 14:54

Que?

That's what the Illuminati are trying to do in the book you referenced. I can quote far too much RAW

MissEsmeWatson · 06/10/2024 16:40

Sorry @Quacksalver , it was a long time ago! I've Googled and I'm with you now.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 18:01

Garlicbest · 05/10/2024 20:33

@Ladyof2024 - Daily Express, February 1957.

Re democracy: All 20 mentions of Bilderberg in Hansard, starting 1973.

Don't see why you want detailed minutes of every meeting every Parliamentary representative attends; what would you do with them?

Yes but because @Ladyof2024 had personally never heard about them, that means it was a secret that was uncovered by David Icke 😂

Rummly · 06/10/2024 18:11

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 18:01

Yes but because @Ladyof2024 had personally never heard about them, that means it was a secret that was uncovered by David Icke 😂

I really don’t understand how anybody on here could not have heard of them. They’re very brazen. We even have a branch in our local mall. They lure children in with stuffed teddy bears and cute outfits.

spuddy4 · 06/10/2024 18:24

When they release Epstein's client list I'll be convinced there's no higher power pulling the strings.

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