Illuminati, real or not?

[PifandHercule]

I’ve been seeing a lot of online content about the Illuminati lately.
Does anyone have any first hand accounts of their existence?
So many conspiracies these days, it’s hard to know what to believe.

😂

Illuminati are just a placeholder for a behind the scenes power that off certain people need to believe in to make sense of the world. Substitute for the Masons, Jews, shapeshifting lizards, Rothschilds, Bilderberg group, Opus Dei, according to your preference. Likelihood is that some of these do exert influence but not one group controlling everything. My money’s on the lizards, using 5G signals and the covid vaccine to prevent us being able to see their true form.

You seem to know an awful lot about "wonky brains" and their hibernation habits. 😂Are you a "wonky brain"? Or perhaps you are some kind of an "expert" on these "wonky brained" people? If so I would be fascinated to know the source of your expertise. Was your source, by any chance, a random man on the telly? 😂😂

This is it, really. Why create some bullshit conspiracy theory when there is an obvious real conspiracy? A few very rich and powerful people (the 0.1%) own the media and fund politicians and lobby groups to control the world and ensure they stay rich and powerful. It’s not the illuminati, it’s capitalism.

EDIT: Which is to say they are not a secret club that meets up to plot global domination. It just happens organically because they all want the same things (low taxation for super rich individuals and big business, restriction of workers rights, free movement of capital but not workers, you know the sort of thing).

I read books by Robert Anton Wilson years and years ago that had a lot about the illuninati. They made a lot of sense then, and although my views on most things have changed over the years, they still make sense. I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure.

Fucking hell, have you met people recently?

The vast majority couldn't wipe their arse with an extra hand, so the idea that there's some mysterious cabal of five or six of them running the world is so unlikely it's laughable.

Opus Dei! I forgot about them. Are they the ones who do branding irons?

Global Warming Yes! The goal is to make Bournemouth more like Cannes.... Primate parking isn't us through - that's the Tories.

The modern Illuminati story is a hoax that started in Playboy magazine, and then got distorted by whatever the online version of the game of "Telephone" is. See https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170809-the-accidental-invention-of-the-illuminati-conspiracy

(Although of course, if a powerful cabal that secretly runs the world did exist, it would make sense for them to invent stories claiming that they were only a hoax... dun dun dun...)

That’s true, we’ll never really know how much of it it’s true, if any.
Besides, MN is not exactly the kind of place where uber rich, influencial people controlling the world hang out.

There are these people who secretly control the world
Do you mean the billionaires and megacorporations who are richer than many countries, are above the law but use it to shut down any scrutiny of their actions and act in concert to manipulate the commodity and currency markets?
No. I mean the ones with the special handshakes. And robes. They have robes.

Don’t be so sure 👀👀👀

#TeamLizards

Primate parking? Good god, it’s worse than I thought. Your lot are creating Planet of the Apes.

I’m off to the preppers board before it’s too late.

I believe in it 100%.

I’m not sure if this anything to do with the Illuminati but it’s strange and fascinating none the less. How many peoples names have a fitting anagram eg.
Ian Bothham…. Oh man I bat.
Clint Eastwood.. Old west action.
Princess Diana.. Ascend in Paris.
Saddam Hussain. UN said he’s mad.
Florence Nightingale.. Angel of the reclining

Evidence?

Or just, ya know, bullshit read online.

If this isn't a truly incredible piece of sarcasm then I worry for your sanity.

If it is then, well, bravo!

I do think it's interesting that the only religion not compatible with Freemasonry is Catholicism. The Pope has spoken out against Catholics being members

Evangelical Christianity isn't either. Lots of them believe that Freemasonry is Satanic and has negative effects on people and their families that ripple down through generations. There are courses called 'freedom from freemasonry' that aim to break the bonds of masonry through prayer. My grandad was a freemason. I don't know anything about them but he was one of the best people I've ever known and a Christian. People in my church suggested I attend one of these courses as they thought the amount of mental and physical health issues and bereavements in my family were linked to my grandad's membership. I was so angry about it at the time. I believe now that they were being genuinely caring but still don't agree with them.

Many children, and vulnerable adults have testified that they have witnessed this. This is nothing new. No one is going to believe them. And if they do believe them, they're not going to take on the authorities and powerful paedophile rings.

I don’t think it’s terribly far fetched and I welcome my new overlord Jeff bezos 😜

So true, I used to work with a suspiciously secretive and powerful woman called Tina Imulli.

QED.

Unfortunately, I too believe that curses can be passed down. I think it stems from the oaths taken. Many take these oaths not realising what they are saying or handing over.

I heard that there was higher levels of sexual abuse within freemason families (not all families of course). But certain dysfunction tends to run down certain family lines.

The illuminati did exist in the 1700's, but they don't any more.

Conspiracy theorists like drawing connections with anything with the eye of providence symbol on, problem is that is Christian (and even older) iconography that pre dates the real illuminati by at least 100's of years in its triangle framed form.

PifandHercule, the original Illuminati was I think a group of German idealists who wanted to promote Enlightenment ideals back in the 18th century.

But since the publication of the (bogus) Protocol of the Elders of Zion in the early 20th century, which claimed to be proof that a secret Jewish cabal was controlling world affairs, the two have become really entwined in conspiracy theory world.

You don't HAVE to be antisemitic to believe that shadowy elites are secretly imposing a new world government, but wherever you find discussion of the Illuminati you will find talk of Rothschild, Soros, globalists, cosmopolitan elites etc. The myth of the Illuminati is basically the antisemitic songbook.

Oh, and a pp asked about the links to satanism, organised paedophilia etc. I believe that's because antisemitism has also, over the centuries, wallowed in discussions of Jews being demonic (having horns etc) and organising the abduction and ritual sacrifice of Christian children (to use their blood for Pesach matza).

Sure that's what the whole of "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" was about & "The Last Crusade" too, it doesn't mean that any of it or "They" have supernatural occult powers, plus it's not like Hitler was a reasonable, well balanced man

The Illuminati is just a another load of Freemasons bullshit only worse because there are actual Freemasons but sadly there's no mystique or witchcraft, it's just a boring gentlemans club who scratch each others backs in return for favours or tickets to The Champions League final