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I have just watched this documentary and it broke my heart.
Hamas are revolting monsters, I can't call them animals because animals wouldn't even do that.

I do wonder how the younger, very outspoken generation would:

1. Feel if that was a festival they went to and watched their friends get slaughtered
2. Have said if there were social media at the time of WW2

Would we have been viewed in the same way Israel has been? The causalities of war were far greater.

I do not support the way in which Benjamin Netanyahu is going about this war at all but I 100% agree with Israel's right to defend itself.

They seem to be the only war I can think of where a country being attacked from all sides, from countries who do want mass extermination of Jewish people (do the younger generation still get taught about the holocaust anymore) who are repeatedly being told to stand down by the west.

To remind the younger generation of previous war casualties (for anyone with the argument that this war is completely out of proportion):

WW1

• UK - 885,000 deaths
• Germany - over 2 million deaths

WW2 - is this proportionate?

• 1.5 - 3 million deaths in Germany
• 210,000 dead - Nuclear bombs into Japan

• 70,000 innocent dead - England

Iraq War

• 179 English soldiers
• 4,492 US soldiers
• 186 - 210,000 Iraqi civilians

No civilian should ever be harmed in war, it is evil however it is inevitable.
How many Jewish people should be killed for Israel to be supported in defending themselves.
So the "the death toll is completely out of proportion" argument doesn't stand.

Yes, we can go back to the time before the bible and argue who has the right to the land. But this current war was started by Hamas and Hezbollah the following day.

However, please don't try to say they want mass extermination of Jewish people just because of the land.
People spitting on a naked woman's dead body when brought back into Gaza, footage filmed by Hamas.

Lets call this what it is pure racism, just like the Nazi's, who killed 6 million Jewish people.

You do know that Hamas are proscribed terrorists?

This keeps getting repeated like it's some kind of gotcha.

The definition of genocide is:

a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.

The Israeli government have spoken many times of wanting to absolutely destroy Gaza and there are open plans to corral Palestinians into Egypt.

Re Mnhq I thought the same re this thread

Don’t hide f’ing terrorists under them then 🤷‍♀️

The International Court of Justice ruled it genocide. These are literally the most qualified judges in the world.
Please stop spreading genocidal propaganda. Some of us were sick to our stomachs watching that genocide.

So blowing up the pagers and electronic devices used by medical staff in hospitals is not considered terrorism?

I'm amazed people still buy this rubbish a year in. Christ.

hmm, and what did they find hidden in the hospitals then? I think you’ll find there were terrorist tunnels, weapons and equipment. And as for the ridiculous remark about the pagers…, well you would only have one of those if you were terrorist wouldn’t you..,,,

No, the ICTJ made no such ruling. Please educate yourself or at least try to be honest if you’re doing this on purpose.

global.upenn.edu/perryworldhouse/news/explaining-international-court-justices-ruling-israel-and-gaza

Israel’s ex- prime minister admitted Israel dug those tunnels!
But that’s not terrorism, the terrorism is blowing up hospitals full of wounded, shooting journalists, humanitarian workers and medical staff, kicking people out of their houses and villages where they lived for thousands years, taking their children in the middle of the night, purposely starving children, blowing up electronic devices, attacking neighbouring countries etc etc

Did you watch the documentary that this thread is about?

I'm pleased she was released and am very happy for her family. What she suffered especially given the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, was horrific.

She was taken at age 11 in 2014. I doubt the recent crises was even close to the worst of what that poor child endured.

The International Court of Justice ruled it genocide. These are literally the most qualified judges in the world.

They have not:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3g9g63jl17o

@CoolMummy123 Read the link in pp your post is not correct

The fact that you have to bump your own propaganda "all ward have casualties" poor us bullshit no one is buying this anymore give it up .

No, that’s BBC 🙈 The ruling is here
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454
There are many others rulings such that Israeli occupation is ILLEGAL in the first place
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied

No @CoolMummy123

The IJC didn't

Did you read the link below? It explains the outcome

@LumpBiscuit I’m responding to pp talking about the Manchester bombings. I’m in no way arguing that it’s a proportionate response.

The UK was condemned for the Dresden bombings but they argued the numbers were inflated, like Israel does now.

They tried to rescue her months ago but couldn't because of the invasion

Mr Sinjaree said Ms Sido was in good physical condition, but had been traumatised by her time in captivity and by the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpw5v077nyjo.amp

So this woman's suffering was prolonged and exacerbated by the Israeli invasion.

Yes I posted the ruling.
The ICJ is trying to issue an arrest warrant for Satanyahu but UK is trying to delay it.
The list of Israeli war crimes can be found here
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

@herecomesautumn

Since the beginning of the Israel–Hamas war in 2023, the Israeli military and authorities have been charged with committing war crimes, such as indiscriminate attacks on civilians in densely populated areas (including bombings of hospitals and medical facilities, refugee camps, schools and educational institutions, and municipal services); genocide; forced evacuations; the torture and executions of civilians; sexual violence; destruction of cultural heritage; collective punishment; and the mistreatment and torture of Palestinian prisoners. Humanitarian organizations such as Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, the UN Human Rights Council, and human rights groups and experts, including United Nations special rapporteurs, have documented these actions.[

How absurdly deranged 🤣🤣
that’s a new one on me. Seriously I don’t know whether to laugh or cry….

They tried to rescue her months ago but couldn't because of the invasion

She'd been in captivity for over a decade.

Also let's not forget why Israel is in Gaza. Calling it "the invasion" makes it sound like they're Russia or something, rather than a response to an attack by Hamas.