We will dance again

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I have just watched this documentary and it broke my heart.
Hamas are revolting monsters, I can't call them animals because animals wouldn't even do that.

I do wonder how the younger, very outspoken generation would:

1. Feel if that was a festival they went to and watched their friends get slaughtered
2. Have said if there were social media at the time of WW2

Would we have been viewed in the same way Israel has been? The causalities of war were far greater.

I do not support the way in which Benjamin Netanyahu is going about this war at all but I 100% agree with Israel's right to defend itself.

They seem to be the only war I can think of where a country being attacked from all sides, from countries who do want mass extermination of Jewish people (do the younger generation still get taught about the holocaust anymore) who are repeatedly being told to stand down by the west.

To remind the younger generation of previous war casualties (for anyone with the argument that this war is completely out of proportion):

WW1

• UK - 885,000 deaths
• Germany - over 2 million deaths

WW2 - is this proportionate?

• 1.5 - 3 million deaths in Germany
• 210,000 dead - Nuclear bombs into Japan

• 70,000 innocent dead - England

Iraq War

• 179 English soldiers
• 4,492 US soldiers
• 186 - 210,000 Iraqi civilians

No civilian should ever be harmed in war, it is evil however it is inevitable.
How many Jewish people should be killed for Israel to be supported in defending themselves.
So the "the death toll is completely out of proportion" argument doesn't stand.

Yes, we can go back to the time before the bible and argue who has the right to the land. But this current war was started by Hamas and Hezbollah the following day.

However, please don't try to say they want mass extermination of Jewish people just because of the land.
People spitting on a naked woman's dead body when brought back into Gaza, footage filmed by Hamas.

Lets call this what it is pure racism, just like the Nazi's, who killed 6 million Jewish people.

They weren't the only ones as well you know.

@Littleonesick so you meant "console". That makes sense now

There isn't a genocide unless I've missed the court ruling.

I mix (never mingle) with lots of people and the
ME is just something on the news, The only time anyone talks about it is around irritation at crusty marches and a fair bit about our erstwhile first minister overstepping his authority for his own personal reasons

Palestine and Isarael may well be engaged in a never-ending war but that does not give Israel the right to bomb the shit out of Lebanon.

Lebanon should deal with Hezbollah in which case and not allow them to spend a year bombing Israel from their soil.

many Hamas fighters have died and some civilians,

SOME??? Good grief 😱

40,000 according to a previous poster. Which is of course far too many.

Any comment on the Jews slaughtered and raped on October 7th?

When Ukraine release information on the casualties of their war with Russia is that also propaganda?

I was responding to another post. I'm not sure why you're asking me this or how it's relevant to the previous post.

Any other country do that (Hamas run Palestine for instance) or just a Jewish country?

I don't judge countries by the majority religion of their populations. To do so would be ridiculous and stupid. Israel continues to lie about what's happening in Gaza, so that's why I think the state apparatus in Israel lies. It's very simple.

Why would I? One was done by terrorists (not by a democratic government since there haven't been free elections for a very long time), the other by a democratic government recently voted in by their country. They are not comparable unless you have a dark and twisted mind.

40,000 deaths of a small population by an invading country is murder on a huge scale. Not casualties of war, but indiscriminate slaughter.

It is not ‘ridiculous and stupid’ to admit that Jews are targeted because of their Jewishness, which is an ethnicity independent of religious beliefs, and the very existence of a Jewish state is what causes the neighbours to rain fire on Israel continually.

Well that wasn't anywhere near what was said but don't let that stop you I guess? It didn't stop the previous poster 🤷‍♀️

You don't seem to call the number of people dead in Gaza as reported by Hamas propaganda though. Funny that.

You don't seem to be able to follow the thread of what's being said and are looking for things to be offended about, whether they've been said or not.

I'm not interested in this bizarre derailment.

Yet you felt the need to comment on the Manchester bombing which was carried out by terrorists. 🤔

And even when you don't, it seems.

Why don’t Hamas care enough about their own people to return the hostages and agree to a ceasefire? Don’t you think if Israel really wanted a genocide they could have just nuked them already?

There is never any excuse for genocide, OP. Israel has lost any moral compass it may have had and people who voted for Netanyahu have blood on their hands. As well as stealing their land.

Why would Israel nuke its own country?

They might consider returning the hostages if Israel returned the thousands of Palestinians it has detained without charge in Israel. Prisoners that are being tortured and raped.