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To be annoyed about proposal before he’s even proposed….

171 replies

Fuzzyhead992 · 01/10/2024 21:13

I feel like I already know IABU but hear me out, or at least help me get over it….

myself and DP been together 7 years. Have a couple of cats and a house together, no children. We love each other very much, we’re very rocky through Covid but we both agree we’ve been in a good place since. The reason for that was he’s self employed and is really busy always working from home, so when I was working from home it got a bit much with all the added pressures of the time, and both of our MH was a bit shot.

Overall we have a lovely life together and can afford some luxuries, very fortunate but we both work extremely hard - however he is a much higher earner, but never gets a break. Working til 11pm most nights etc. he tells me often he loves me, and I trust him completely.

We have spoken lots about getting married, he will openly chat about ‘our’ wedding so it’s definitely not one sided. Says he wants to marry me. However by nature he is not a planner, everything gets left to the last minute (a lot of why he’s working so late), he leaves me to plan holidays etc, he rarely even makes a restaurant booking unless it’s to go out with clients, and he always asks me to find somewhere and book it. He gets easily overwhelmed but you’d never really get that if you were just meeting him down the pub. I organise everything, and he’s happy to let me do it and it usually works out fine.

anyway I have a birthday coming up, and we have both spoken in the last 6 months about being engaged by then.

We are away to a very posh hotel in the countryside next week for my birthday, a very indulgent purchase (we both went halfers on it), especially for not a big birthday. However I know how crazy work has been for him recently, he’s had to work at weekends almost every weekend since we came back from holiday in July. We have a joint bank account so I know he’s not bought an engagement ring, he’s been to football and the pub at night a couple times but hasn’t been near a jeweller, and then tonight I was asking him if we should have my birthday dinner in the hotel restaurant or book a highly reviewed restaurant nearby.

He just grunted at me to book whatever I wanted, so I then asked if we’d be going for a walk etc, so I know if I need to replace my walking boots, and he said to plan whatever I wanted, he’s not had the time but happy to do whatever. I know this sounds like a ploy, but I know him, he has nothing planned.

I’m miffed!! Was chatting to a friend about it saying he’s clearly not going to propose even though I was expecting it, from the fancy hotel and our chats prior, she says to wait and he might pull something together at the last minute. But I don’t want the last minute!! For once it would be lovely for him to put some thought in. Scared to approach him about it in case I seem desperate, but I am a bit.

I don’t need fancy jewellery or a big grand gesture, but just something that proves he’s done a bit of planning for once…. Am I being totally unreasonable?

of course if he does propose I will look like a massive twat, and if he doesn’t I’m sure I’ll still have a lovely weekend but will still be a bit disappointed…. Just don’t want to resent him!!!

OP posts:
cardibach · 01/10/2024 21:14

Propose to him?

TheBeesKnee · 01/10/2024 21:15

God what an unattractive man. Are you sure you want to marry him, or do you just want to "be married"?

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 01/10/2024 21:15

Why don't you ask him? If you've already discussed it then it won't be a surprise anyway.

gapattachment · 01/10/2024 21:17

I organise everything, and he’s happy to let me do it

How good of him to let you do everything for him.

Do you really want to marry him? He could be treating you a lot better than this - and I don't mean the proposal, I mean day to day. It's your birthday and he can't be bothered to organise any of it.

It's okay to have standards.

pizzaHeart · 01/10/2024 21:19

Is he in general loving, caring, helpful and kind? Is it just planning of social and surprises a problem?

gapattachment · 01/10/2024 21:19

tonight I was asking him if we should have my birthday dinner in the hotel restaurant or book a highly reviewed restaurant nearby.

He just grunted at me to book whatever I wanted, so I then asked if we’d be going for a walk etc, so I know if I need to replace my walking boots, and he said to plan whatever I wanted, he’s not had the time but happy to do whatever.

Seriously op, the way he treats you is so shit in so many ways.

gapattachment · 01/10/2024 21:21

he rarely even makes a restaurant booking unless it’s to go out with clients

He can be bothered to organise himself for clients. But not you.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 01/10/2024 21:21

Typical “propose to him” replies 🙄 err the OP already organises everything else, if he can’t get off his arse and sort out a lovely proposal for her then that’s extremely shit. Why the hell should the OP yet again be the one to organise everything, some posters seriously need to raise their standards when it comes to men!

OP I would go and try to enjoy your weekend, if he says “up to you” reply “its my birthday so I’d like you to organise this for me as it would make me feel special and loved” and give him a chance to pull off something nice. If he doesn’t I’d go nuclear when you get back tbh and tell him you’re reevaluating the relationship.

Fuzzyhead992 · 01/10/2024 21:21

pizzaHeart · 01/10/2024 21:19

Is he in general loving, caring, helpful and kind? Is it just planning of social and surprises a problem?

he is, he can get stressed and grumpy with work as sometimes it’s a ‘I’ve just got to get through til next week’ kind of thing. He is funny, loving so I feel ridiculous feeling like this! Just a bit of effort would be nice

OP posts:
CoralReader · 01/10/2024 21:22

Does he know you want a bit of effort?

MrSeptember · 01/10/2024 21:22

I saw the "I organise everything and he's happy to let me" and my heart sunk. DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN with this man becuase right now, it's fun. You like to do things your way and it's all very lovely. You will NOT feel this way when you have children.

As for proposal, I think if you've agreed that by your birthday you would be engaged, then you have every right to expect it. I would say something, even if casually.

ToBeDetermined · 01/10/2024 21:25

YANBU
My DH is the same. He could be twins. If he were a mouse, he’d never find the cheese and would be at the wrong end of the maze taking a nap.

I felt exactly like you do, as in if he loves me then surely he would make the effort just this one time for me? I was miffed and felt unappreciated and had it out with him. We argued.

He later came and we sat and talked and he said he just couldn’t do it, he got overwhelmed second guessing himself and he had felt like it was a test of his love and the pressure got to him.

I had kind of made it into a test…so we agreed that we’d plan it together as I felt like ok he can’t do it on his own, I accept that but no way does thar mean I should do all of it by myself.

The one time was for a special milestone anniversary, not the proposal but I think there are parallels between our two situations. I think your feelings are valid, but I think you also know he’s going to fail without a bit of help too. xx

gapattachment · 01/10/2024 21:25

CoralReader · 01/10/2024 21:22

Does he know you want a bit of effort?

Should the op have to make a special request for that in a committed relationship?

AutumnFroglets · 01/10/2024 21:27

Don't have children with this man unless you want to act like a single parent with no support. Someone who refuses to plan and expects their other half to pick up the slack won't suddenly become the perfect role model for parenthood. He's telling you loud and clear you will be doing it all.

Dotto · 01/10/2024 21:27

Is this how you want to live for the rest of your life? You don't sound like a priority at all, sadly.

Foxblue · 01/10/2024 21:27

Sorry, this is a bit weird and I don't know how to say this, but your whole post reads like he doesn't put any effort in normally, but for some reason you still want to marry him, but are annoyed he isn't putting any effort in? you've had to give him a deadline to propose after 7 years together and you think he's going to miss it or do a last minute thing?
Erm... if a mate was telling you this, what would you say to them?

YellowRoom · 01/10/2024 21:28

Working until 11pm most nights because he's shit at planning is not compatible with having children if that is what you want.

ToBeDetermined · 01/10/2024 21:31

Fwiw, my DH is a very good dad. He definitely pulls his weight on the daily grind of work, childcare, household tasks. It’s the more the special events that paralyse him. So I do not have the same certitude as some posters that if you have DC he won’t lift a finger.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 01/10/2024 21:32

Stop thinking about the proposal and start thinking about the “until death do us part”. Go into this eyes wide open, anyone who marries this man will have to organise everything. There will never be effort for you, only by you. He may love you and he may be great company, he may be great “in the moment” - but he will never ever plan. All effort will be by you- or whoever he marries.

so is this what you want from a marriage/life?

Do you want someone to share the workload? Some think they do but actually like being in
charge and not having to factor in someone else’s plans/decisions/actions that might not be what you’d want- eg this weekend away, a “planner” might plan an activity you not enjoy, there’s a benefit from a man who will always just fit in with your plans.

so what sort of marriage do you want?

gapattachment · 01/10/2024 21:34

ToBeDetermined · 01/10/2024 21:31

Fwiw, my DH is a very good dad. He definitely pulls his weight on the daily grind of work, childcare, household tasks. It’s the more the special events that paralyse him. So I do not have the same certitude as some posters that if you have DC he won’t lift a finger.

That's great but I think you're projecting and defending your husband rather than the man described in the op.

This man leaves the op to organise everything in their lives not just special events, works until 11pm and on weekends. How is he going to pull his weight on the daily grind of childcare?

UhOhSpagettiOh · 01/10/2024 21:35

If you want a planner he's not the one.

You can't expect him to suddenly start planning because you feel that shows he cares. Does he show he cares in other ways?

Fuzzyhead992 · 01/10/2024 21:37

I don’t want to get too into the how much I do, how little he does argument - I think he could do a bit more, however I do know how demanding his job is, we met because we used to work together at my old job. Yes I think he could manage his time a bit better but he’s also working with multiple different time zones worldwide, and he brings in a lot more money than me, so happy to pick up more things.

Had an argument about a year ago where I was moaning about he wasn’t cleaning the bathroom properly, it’s not fair if I’m going round after him basically doing everything myself, and he realised how much it annoyed me so he’s paid for a cleaner to come a few hours each week. I think weekly is unnecessary but he knows how much I like a clean tidy house (I grew up in a hoarder household) so he pays the cleaner and won’t let me contribute, to make things easier for both of us. Just an example of how he can be sweet! He’s not demanding or controlling about money, encourages me to go out with my friends etc, it’s just the lack of planning.

I normally don’t mind this at all, I’d say I’m more of a control freak and enjoy planning things so it usually works for us, this is just the one time I feel he should be putting more effort in…. I think I’m going to have to speak to him

OP posts:
Sepoctnov · 01/10/2024 21:38

I was you ten years ago. Some of the things you've written are uncannily similar.

I got fed up of organising everything. And I mean everything. Sadly we separated and now have to co-parent our DC. If I could go back in time I would tell my younger self that it's better to wait it out for someone more compatible.

Getitwright · 01/10/2024 21:38

Crikey. This man does sound very hard work, every day, never mind on a holiday. There’s nothing more boring than one person doing all the thinking, all the spontaneity. I briefly dated someone like this, we were very young, but even at 21 I could see that he was a plodder, mainly because he simply lacked get up and go, any kind of “shall we do this” type of approach. My parents called him The Dormouse, as he would often just sit looking half asleep. Sorry but he got politely but firmly ditched. Shackling myself to a disorganised bore wouldn’t be for me, I have far too much to want to do in life. Thankfully I found a soulmate and we share everything.

autienotnaughty · 01/10/2024 21:43

Do you want children? If you have children the housework and mental load increase is massive plus caring for the children themselves. Based on what you said you can guarantee you will be doing everything yourself. I'd think hard is this person really fear you want?

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