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To not want to meet up with this rude woman?

216 replies

BucketBouquet · 29/09/2024 14:59

My oldest friend, Jane, recently moved back to her university city; partly for personal reasons, but also because she was offered a job there. She hadn’t been working for a while when she got this job, so is playing catch-up financially, but she decided to treat herself to a birthday night out last weekend. I travelled to join her.

Jane has quite a few friends in this city who I haven’t met before. She was excited for me to meet them, but singled out one in particular, Marian. She was saying she just knew we’d get on great, she’s so lovely etc.

Anyway, we go out for Jane’s birthday meal. After about ten minutes, Marian and her boyfriend haven’t arrived. We order wine, but say we’ll wait for them to order the food. Ten minutes turns into 20, then 25… still no sign, not even a “sorry, running late” text. The waiter has been back asking if we know when we’ll be ready to order, then to try to sell us more wine (which Jane very quickly said no to, which I’m 90% sure was down to budget). I suggest it’s time to ring Marian and check she’s definitely still coming. Jane does; Marian says the traffic is terrible, but they’ll be there any minute. 10 more minutes pass; everyone is hungry and in need of a drink. I say I’ll treat us to some Prosecco as it’s a special occasion (mainly to pacify the waiter, who’s clearly concerned about a table for eight having been there over half an hour without ordering).

Marian and her boyfriend finally arrive 45 minutes late. Not a word of apology; just babble about the traffic, you wouldn’t believe it… no attempt to even pick up a menu. Jane’s clearly waiting for a pause in the monologue that I sense isn’t coming, so I say “Sorry to interrupt, but I think we really need to order; they’ve been over a few times now”. Marian umms and ahhhs over every bloody menu item like she’s got all day, rather than being 45 minutes late and having pissed everyone off. She eventually orders.

But the rudeness didn’t stop there. The woman barely paused for breath throughout the entire meal. We had chapter and verse on her job, their flat, her hobbies… she didn’t ask anyone else a question or show any interest. I didn’t even hear her wish Jane a happy birthday. (If you’re wondering about the boyfriend, he barely said a word. I don’t know if he was just ignorant or has been stunned into silence by living with Robogob.)

Anyway, yesterday Jane rang me. She thanked me again for coming down - but then said, “Oh, I meant to say, Marian really liked you! She wants to know when you’re coming down again so we can all go out”. I’m baffled, frankly. I don’t know how she could either like or dislike me; she never stopped talking for long enough for me to speak to her, and she certainly wasn’t interested in getting to know me (or anyone else). I can’t understand why on earth she’d want us to meet up.

I’m hoping the idea will just fall by the wayside, but if Jane pushes it I’ve no idea what to say. She’s such a kind person and clearly sees something in this woman; I don’t fancy telling her that the “lovely” friend she was so keen for me to meet is, in fact, a total arsewipe. Do I just grin and bear it?

OP posts:
BucketBouquet · 02/10/2024 11:48

ciderhouserules · 02/10/2024 11:42

Lol - I only did it to annoy you. Hmm Hmm Grin Grin
As I said, you are assertive enough in this thread, Hmm just tell 'Jane'. Or don't, and suck it up. Hmm

Why do you keep putting the names in quote marks?

OP posts:
BucketBouquet · 02/10/2024 11:49

Ridiculous behaviour to delay a whole meal and drinks because someone isn't there.

Well I wouldn’t have, but it wasn’t my call.

OP posts:
BoldAmberDuck · 02/10/2024 12:06

BucketBouquet · 02/10/2024 11:48

Why do you keep putting the names in quote marks?

I think the person commenting on your post is very rude too. Maybe you should introduce them? Sure they’d get on well as both very opinionated. Just ignore the silly comments.

MelodyMalone · 02/10/2024 14:47

BoldAmberDuck · 02/10/2024 12:06

I think the person commenting on your post is very rude too. Maybe you should introduce them? Sure they’d get on well as both very opinionated. Just ignore the silly comments.

Tend to agree... certain people seem so determined to have a go at the OP, one has to wonder if Marian herself is on this thread 😄

Russiandollsaresofullofthemselves · 02/10/2024 18:57

is it possible Marian is neurodivergent? the lateness with no communication and the non stop talking make it seem likely.

Yelloworangetomato · 02/10/2024 19:17

Sometimes I'm nervous and motormouth a bit, hopefully the other person will take over and do the same back to me! I'm often unsure of where the line is between asking questions out of interest and where it might seem rude, nosey or intrusive and just hope the other person is assertive enough to steer the conversation

I also do have basic manners and show consideration for others. But maybe a second shot? Just one more?

whydoihavetowork · 02/10/2024 21:47

Robogob 🤣

Robogob · 02/10/2024 23:35

OP, thank you for username inspo.

PeachMoose · 03/10/2024 05:27

The whole group doesn't sound great tbh....

I don't think they're actually nasty or cocaine fiends, I suspect it's just that Jane has picked up a few people (including Robogob) who are a bit weird/tone deaf/childish/awkward overall.

Not picking up on waiters cues, or knowing they need to order within 45 minutes, or noticing Jane struggling with money etc (even though it's her birthday...OP the only one suggesting Prosecco etc).

It is hard meeting new people as a solo female, perhaps this is Janes "good enough for now" social group?

I'm overlooking some group Robogobs as I know I'm fairly transient/work focussed and it's better for my wellbeing to have some social stuff which is a 6/10 than do nothing socially.

I wouldn't try to build close 1-1s with them though!

Hopefully as Jane continues in work and grow in confidence she'll build better networks and detach from this group anyway.

But it's not the OPs responsibility to act as buffer for anyone weird or keep being the only normal person in a socially awkward group.

Or she'll always be the person enabling and smoothing things over. Jane will have to deal with the group solo and work it out for herself.

MelodyMalone · 04/10/2024 09:40

Robogob · 02/10/2024 23:35

OP, thank you for username inspo.

😂

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 05/10/2024 13:39

Figleafpants · 29/09/2024 15:37

"No thanks Jane. I know you like Marian but she really isnt my sort of person. I actually found the way she behaved at your birthday quite rude and off-putting."

Nothing whatsoever wrong with saying that. Its true.

Perfect

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Agree.
I simply cannot imagine anyone I know tolerating this.
Drink ordered immediately and food too, no later than 15 minutes later.
I wouldn't care what the reasoning was.
I am always hungry when meeting for dinner.
In fact I never meet friends for drinks as for us food has to be a part of the evening.

Devon23 · 05/10/2024 17:47

Ha ha sounds like someone my MIL introduced me to. Our girls were to start the same private school ROBO mouth as the other person posted was an understatement, little understated husband in background (who was a Dr and her sole provider). I'm guessing your friend had the dinner planned and wanted a break lol - someone else's ears to get a beaten. Just tell her you're busy next time - if shes a great friend tell her the truth shes too much for you.

speedmop · 07/10/2024 10:25

Devon23 · 05/10/2024 17:47

Ha ha sounds like someone my MIL introduced me to. Our girls were to start the same private school ROBO mouth as the other person posted was an understatement, little understated husband in background (who was a Dr and her sole provider). I'm guessing your friend had the dinner planned and wanted a break lol - someone else's ears to get a beaten. Just tell her you're busy next time - if shes a great friend tell her the truth shes too much for you.

i can’t really make head nor tail of this one 🫤

berightorbehappy · 27/01/2025 20:11

just say “it’s so lovely you’ve made new friends but l’d much rather we stick to us two so we can really catch up . Marian seems like your hi energy friend so you get the best of both worlds by seeing us separately ”

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