Page 7 | To have expected them to swap DD’s tombola prize?

andweallsingalong · 29/09/2024 16:49

Whilst legally she shouldn't have been sold a ticket it's no big deal.

Happened all the time when I was a kid.

Either the adult you were with would fancy it and swap for a packet of crisps or whatever. Or am adult would win a kids prize and swap.

Not up to the table organiser. Imagine the uproar if the person who actually won the teddy really wanted it, but was palmed off with your bottle of wine.

DragonGypsyDoris · 29/09/2024 16:52

LionMummy8 · 29/09/2024 14:07

DD had a go on a family tombola this morning in a family pub/restaurant style place. She won and it was bottle of wine. I asked if she could swap it for one of the more child friendly prizes or one of the teddies but they refused. So she’s won a bottle of wine that she can’t even have! AIBU to have excepted them to swap DD’s prize?

It's not all about your daughter. Give her £10 for the wine, then she buys what she wants. Or if she's very young you buy what she needs. It doesn't have to be complicated.

Fluufer · 29/09/2024 16:53

Tombola is luck of the draw, that's the point. You buy her some sweets or a packet of crisps and swap her for the wine.

Funkyslippers · 29/09/2024 16:54

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 16:42

@funkyslippers, that is the rule. The alcohol has to be handed to an adult not the child. raffles / tombolas and similar are exempt from normal licensing rules

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That's not what I asked. I asked if there's an official rule to a say that under 18s cannot buy a tombola ticket if the stall has alcohol----

Scirocco · 29/09/2024 16:55

Just give her the cash equivalent and drink the wine yourself.

TiggyTomCat · 29/09/2024 16:59

My brother won a bottle of whisky when he was a child on a tombola - My Dad just bought him out - both were happy!

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 16:59

Funkyslippers · 29/09/2024 16:54

That's not what I asked. I asked if there's an official rule to a say that under 18s cannot buy a tombola ticket if the stall has alcohol----

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No, normal licensing rules dont apply so a child can buy the ticket, there must be a true chance of luck 'ie not swapping tickets as OP wants', and alcohol must be sealed and handed to someone over 18 and ID checked if in doubt.

BrieHugger · 29/09/2024 16:59

The best way to run a tombola (especially at something like a school fair where there are tons of kids) is to let them pick the prize themselves. That way there’s no need to label everything, people spend more money knowing they’ll end up with an appropriate prize, and the stuff left over goes straight to charity. Table cleared, minimum effort, everyone happy!

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 17:03

@BrieHugger you can't run a tombola (or raffle) like that if alcohol is involved. There has to be a true chance of winning / not winning it. Otherwise it's effectively just selling alcohol and requires different alcohol licensing/gambling/ Temporary Event licenses. It is good practise to have an alcohol free alternative available to pick from behind the table.

OhmygodDont · 29/09/2024 17:05

I mean if that worked eveyone would find an excuse when they won an item not for them. Sorry no my little pony I’m a horse fearing guy. Sorry no beads.. my cat might eat them.

If you want to win a teddy play a game where all the prizes are teddies 🤷🏻‍♀️

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:10

Yes, I would have thought they could swop it. It would have been nice for your DD and not hurt anyone else. Don’t know why people have to be so rigid with things for the sake of it.

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 17:15

@Twototwo15 because if they did that it would put the pubs General Manager running the stall at risk for her liquor and/or gambling licenses if she holds them as it goes against the rules for a prize lottery which is what tombolas and raffles fall under.

EwwSprouts · 29/09/2024 17:16

where I work, when a child wins alcohol on a tombola we let them swap it for a more suitable prize. That’s just the right thing to do
Same where I work. We have a small additional stash of child friendly prizes that are kept under the table for just such swaps.

CoffeeGood · 29/09/2024 17:20

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:10

Yes, I would have thought they could swop it. It would have been nice for your DD and not hurt anyone else. Don’t know why people have to be so rigid with things for the sake of it.

But say the wine that the OP's daughter won was ticket number 1, and the teddy that she would prefer was ticket number 2. So they swap the prize and another child comes along and gets ticket number 2, so instead of what would have been the teddy, it is now wine because OP kicked up a fuss because her child didn't get what she deemed appropriate. How is that fair to THAT child, who also would have preferred the teddy to the wine? It solves the OP's problem and is nice for her DD but isn't nice for another child. So it IS hurting someone else. The very nature of tombola is that it's a random prize, you may get something you want or you might not and the OP needs to help her daughter to understand that and sort it out herself if absolutely necessary not to shift the problem to someone else, who may be even younger and even less able to understand.

ThinWomansBrain · 29/09/2024 17:25

if your child was in a pub. they probably assumed (possibly incorrectly) that she was with a responsible adult.

if you want her to have child friendly stuff, encourage he to spend her money in a toy shop. As a PP suggested, buy chocolate or something she'd like in return for the wine.

evtheria · 29/09/2024 17:25

I wouldn't expect them to swap it, I'd be surprised and pleased if they had but wouldn't have asked as it really is 'you win what you win', right?

I remember winning a massive jar of those plastic golf things that they balance the ball on (tees?), I was 8 and gutted! But my best friend's mum insisted we swap, she had won a huge jar of sweets and said her husband would like the tees instead. Don't know if that was true but it made my day.

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:26

CoffeeGood · 29/09/2024 17:20

But say the wine that the OP's daughter won was ticket number 1, and the teddy that she would prefer was ticket number 2. So they swap the prize and another child comes along and gets ticket number 2, so instead of what would have been the teddy, it is now wine because OP kicked up a fuss because her child didn't get what she deemed appropriate. How is that fair to THAT child, who also would have preferred the teddy to the wine? It solves the OP's problem and is nice for her DD but isn't nice for another child. So it IS hurting someone else. The very nature of tombola is that it's a random prize, you may get something you want or you might not and the OP needs to help her daughter to understand that and sort it out herself if absolutely necessary not to shift the problem to someone else, who may be even younger and even less able to understand.

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Does anyone know what number belongs to what prize? I thought you just got a random prize, but if they are listed for everyone to see then I suppose it’s a different story, unless they just change it there and then to list the wine number with the teddy and vice versa.

ThinWomansBrain · 29/09/2024 17:27

@evtheria I bet your friend was gutted😂

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:27

Singleandproud · 29/09/2024 17:15

@Twototwo15 because if they did that it would put the pubs General Manager running the stall at risk for her liquor and/or gambling licenses if she holds them as it goes against the rules for a prize lottery which is what tombolas and raffles fall under.

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Really? How would it affect the liquor license to just swop a wine prize with a child friendly prize and let an adult win the wine.

evtheria · 29/09/2024 17:30

ThinWomansBrain · 29/09/2024 17:27

@evtheria I bet your friend was gutted😂

I think she had gone and told her mum about it, to be honest! They always had lots of sweets and snacks at their house so probably wasn't (I hope)!

WiserOlderElf · 29/09/2024 17:30

Twototwo15 · 29/09/2024 17:26

Does anyone know what number belongs to what prize? I thought you just got a random prize, but if they are listed for everyone to see then I suppose it’s a different story, unless they just change it there and then to list the wine number with the teddy and vice versa.

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The number on the prize matches the number on your ticket. That’s how the OP’s daughter knew she’d won the wine.

Tiredalwaystired · 29/09/2024 17:31

BrieHugger · 29/09/2024 16:59

The best way to run a tombola (especially at something like a school fair where there are tons of kids) is to let them pick the prize themselves. That way there’s no need to label everything, people spend more money knowing they’ll end up with an appropriate prize, and the stuff left over goes straight to charity. Table cleared, minimum effort, everyone happy!

Not really because towards the end of the day you’re just left with all the crap and no one spends any money on the stall any more.

The beauty of a Tombola is your chance to either win a great or a duff prize depending on the number you pull out.

WandaFishy99 · 29/09/2024 17:31

How on earth will you cope?

SpiggingBelgium · 29/09/2024 17:33

Does anyone know what number belongs to what prize? I thought you just got a random prize

Thats a Lucky Dip.

Button28384738 · 29/09/2024 17:35

No of course they didn't have to! DD won a pack of bath bombs at her school tombola that she couldn't use because of eczema- I didn't expect them to swap them it's just a £1 tombola at school, I bought her some sweets instead and older DD and me used the bath bombs
You basically got a very cheap bottle of wine, drink it yourself!