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To think incompetent hypocrite Starmer has lost the respect of the people and his own party in record time?

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TealTraybake · 28/09/2024 18:52

An excoriating letter from Rosie Duffield who resigned today..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rosie-duffield-resignation-letter-starmer-labour-b2620603.html#comments-area

Been bad enough for her to resign, I wonder what will happen next. Does she know something we don’t?

Rosie Duffield’s resignation letter in full

Rosie Duffield has quit as a Labour MP, attacking Sir Keir Starmer’s “cruel and unnecessary policies” and the freebie row engulfing the party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rosie-duffield-resignation-letter-starmer-labour-b2620603.html#comments-area

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Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:51

SweetSakura · 28/09/2024 20:47

In fairness that was the line the Tories tried to sell when they were elected in 2010 and their behaviour was on a whole different level to anything labour have done so far.

Loving the desperation here. 😂

irs not a race to the bottom. The but but but the tories doesn’t fly anymore.

labour have shamed themselves. And they have only been in ten weeks!

they’ve stolen from the pensioners.
given into the unions
spent money we don’t have,
taken free holidays and clothes.

it’s shameful.

SaturdayMorningRun · 28/09/2024 20:51

*won't not song

Rummly · 28/09/2024 20:52

ChallahPlaiter · 28/09/2024 20:34

From CCHQ to MN, no passing Go.

Obviously what’s happened is disappointing, let’s hope it leads to a real push to clean up politics. Funny though, a lot of what you see and read in the media and on here sounds like Labour is still the opposition and being attacked by Tory press and supporters.

Wow look Labour hasn’t fixed everything in 3 months, bring back “Boris”! It’s entirely transparent.

Fwiw I stopped voting Labour after 97 and I’m not convinced I’ll support them in 2029. I’m no tribalist but we had to get rid of the Tories, there was no realistic alternative.

From CCHQ to MN, no passing Go.

Why do MN’s Labour supporters - and no doubt lots of Labour supporters generally - do this? Why is anyone critical of Labour accused of surreptitious paid work for the Tories?

It comes across as cultist Labour conspiracy theory: having a different point of view can only be explained as being shadowy and underhand. FFS.

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:52

ThatbloodyRoblox · 28/09/2024 20:51

I don't think that resignation letter puts Rosie Duffield in the best of lights either. A lot of what she cites was pre election- yet she stood as a candidate thinking those things and knowing she was standing with KS as leader. why not stand as an independent? Or are principles only ok when you have the job. She might have won as an independent I don't know but it appears she wasn't convinced enough to go for it.
She also cites the WFA as far as I can see she abstained on the vote. Why? She was going to resign the whip anyway. It makes no sense.
Her constituents voted for a Labour MP they haven't got what they won for the next 5 years.

What was pre election, you saying she knew they’d give into the unions, steal from pensioners, take free holidays and clothes and what she’s to blame?

Daltonbear1 · 28/09/2024 20:52

SaturdayMorningRun · 28/09/2024 20:50

Starmer is a disgrace, but why anyone believed a politician trying to present himself as a good person is beyond me. I'd have been far more shocked if he had turned out to be a decent guy that I have been finding out that he's just another self serving, hypocritical arse. Just another in a long line and he song be the last.

I did like Rosies letter though.

He's far more decent then Nigel farage or any tory right now. Shall we talk democracy those that are sniping admit if uou like reform or the tories because Nigel made it so he can't be got rid off in his party or the vast amount of gifts Boris got but that's OK right .

honestasever · 28/09/2024 20:53

He’s doing what needs to be done. I trust him and back him 100%

5byfive · 28/09/2024 20:53

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 28/09/2024 20:28

If one of the two rumours going around on twitter are true, he is more like Boris than any of us could have imagined he would be!

I have seen two rumours, and it seems unlikely that both are true, given the nature of them. I'm not sure tweets along the lines of "well if what I've heard is true, it's big!" followed by a rhyming hashtag of some sort are the most reliable sources of political secrets.

Could be true of course, both are essentially impossible to disprove. But I think one of the rumours is mainly fuelled by the fact they can rhyme "Keir" with it. Far better to criticise him on things he's actually done, and policies actually implemented.

I've not been impressed, but as for people saying he's worse than Johnson - I'd still like an answer as to what exactly Charlotte Owens has on him that has put her in the HoL for life. Absolutely ridiculous political system that has her, and the likes of Michelle Mone, in the HoL.

There is an injunction in the uk so you can’t say who CO’s father is but it is widely reported in the rest of the world.

If this doesn’t get deleted it might be ok to post that her grandfather is Stanley Johnson.

NotSmallButFunSize · 28/09/2024 20:54

JumperStripes · 28/09/2024 19:18

Starmer is on his way to making Johnson look good!

Edited

Oh honestly, what a fucking ridiculous thing to say.

I'm no Labour fan but all this shit about some fucking clothes - everyone seems to have short memories about the utter shower of self serving arseholes the Tories were....

Million pound contracts for their mate's brand new business in Covid that suddenly appeared selling PPE anyone??

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 20:54

Rummly · 28/09/2024 20:52

From CCHQ to MN, no passing Go.

Why do MN’s Labour supporters - and no doubt lots of Labour supporters generally - do this? Why is anyone critical of Labour accused of surreptitious paid work for the Tories?

It comes across as cultist Labour conspiracy theory: having a different point of view can only be explained as being shadowy and underhand. FFS.

It’s on every thread

At this point with Keir tanking everywhere you’d think they quit the view by now

It would take industrial blinkers to ignore commentary pretty much anywhere

ChallahPlaiter · 28/09/2024 20:54

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:51

Loving the desperation here. 😂

irs not a race to the bottom. The but but but the tories doesn’t fly anymore.

labour have shamed themselves. And they have only been in ten weeks!

they’ve stolen from the pensioners.
given into the unions
spent money we don’t have,
taken free holidays and clothes.

it’s shameful.

Oh bollocks. Do you want public sector workers to have a living wage and decent terms and conditions or would you rather they went on strike forever? I thought it was impressive how quickly the industrial disputes were resolved and it said an awful lot about how keen the Tories were to keep them going. Demonising those who do vital work was never going to be a good look.

ichundich · 28/09/2024 20:54

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 19:34

Love folks trying to distance labour from him. Yeah he’s the leader. Has been for years. Voted in by the party,

he’s Labour. He’s who Labour wanted. Enjoy. Same as two homes raynor with her free holidays and free clothes.

they are labour through and through.

And her Insta green backgrounds.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/09/2024 20:54

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

I know you people have a Tory agenda to keep up, but what exactly is plutocratic about going to a club in Ibiza? It's not exactly a luxury yacht at Cannes is it? Sounds like a fairly cheap package holiday to me - shouldn't politicians indulge in ordinary holidays?

Edit: I don't like Starmer either, but some of the media stuff about Rayner is dishonest, and the rest of it is misogynist dishonesty.

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:55

Daltonbear1 · 28/09/2024 20:52

He's far more decent then Nigel farage or any tory right now. Shall we talk democracy those that are sniping admit if uou like reform or the tories because Nigel made it so he can't be got rid off in his party or the vast amount of gifts Boris got but that's OK right .

Really? Didn’t see Rishi taking the pensioners fuel allowances or boris for that matter,

never saw Rishi taking free holidays and clothes. Indulging in nepotism, and don’t say it’s as he’s rich. Starmers worth 8 million and doesn’t need free clothes or holidays.

Horses7 · 28/09/2024 20:55

It took me quite a while to be disappointed in Blair but this shower have convinced me already.

MrsWhattery · 28/09/2024 20:55

The problem is Starmer et al built their whole campaign on "change/we are different" when they blatantly aren't.

Exactly. Of course lots of Tories are freebie-loving, stinking rich toffs who have no clue about normal people's lives and line their mates' pockets. And I don't think the press has hidden this - we've all been talking about it for years.

That's why we kicked them out in favour of Labour - the supposed party of working people that is supposed to care about normal people and try to redress unfairness and help the poorest. "The Tories do it too" - yeah that's why I didn't vote for them and wanted something else.

Namechange7364 · 28/09/2024 20:55

ThatbloodyRoblox · 28/09/2024 20:51

I don't think that resignation letter puts Rosie Duffield in the best of lights either. A lot of what she cites was pre election- yet she stood as a candidate thinking those things and knowing she was standing with KS as leader. why not stand as an independent? Or are principles only ok when you have the job. She might have won as an independent I don't know but it appears she wasn't convinced enough to go for it.
She also cites the WFA as far as I can see she abstained on the vote. Why? She was going to resign the whip anyway. It makes no sense.
Her constituents voted for a Labour MP they haven't got what they won for the next 5 years.

Hmm, well she's always said that she wants to make the changes from within. I think it's fair enough that she made sure she got in before resigning.

And actually, as someone in her constituency who voted for her, with gritted teeth because of which party she belonged to, I am quite pleased.

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:55

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/09/2024 20:54

I know you people have a Tory agenda to keep up, but what exactly is plutocratic about going to a club in Ibiza? It's not exactly a luxury yacht at Cannes is it? Sounds like a fairly cheap package holiday to me - shouldn't politicians indulge in ordinary holidays?

Edit: I don't like Starmer either, but some of the media stuff about Rayner is dishonest, and the rest of it is misogynist dishonesty.

Edited

Oh did you miss her holiday to New York in the free 2.5m apartment?

ChallahPlaiter · 28/09/2024 20:56

Rummly · 28/09/2024 20:52

From CCHQ to MN, no passing Go.

Why do MN’s Labour supporters - and no doubt lots of Labour supporters generally - do this? Why is anyone critical of Labour accused of surreptitious paid work for the Tories?

It comes across as cultist Labour conspiracy theory: having a different point of view can only be explained as being shadowy and underhand. FFS.

Why are you apparently incapable of reading my post to the end before making a fool of yourself?

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2024 20:56

ThatbloodyRoblox · 28/09/2024 20:51

I don't think that resignation letter puts Rosie Duffield in the best of lights either. A lot of what she cites was pre election- yet she stood as a candidate thinking those things and knowing she was standing with KS as leader. why not stand as an independent? Or are principles only ok when you have the job. She might have won as an independent I don't know but it appears she wasn't convinced enough to go for it.
She also cites the WFA as far as I can see she abstained on the vote. Why? She was going to resign the whip anyway. It makes no sense.
Her constituents voted for a Labour MP they haven't got what they won for the next 5 years.

All of this. She cites two issues where she abstained from voting, why didn’t she put her money where her mouth is? Why did she stick with the party during Diane Abbott’s interminable suspension if she felt so strongly? She should stand down completely and give her constituents a real choice now.

Daltonbear1 · 28/09/2024 20:56

Staunchlystarling · 28/09/2024 20:51

Loving the desperation here. 😂

irs not a race to the bottom. The but but but the tories doesn’t fly anymore.

labour have shamed themselves. And they have only been in ten weeks!

they’ve stolen from the pensioners.
given into the unions
spent money we don’t have,
taken free holidays and clothes.

it’s shameful.

Absolute bullshit they haven't spent any more than what the tories have done and yes 10 weeks which is fuck all time to sort out the mess tories have done. Given into unions you say oh the workers yes people that need more wages as tories have not paid them right which meant hours wasted not working vosting tye economy more like health care doctors etc so they sorted that
If a labour donor wants to give them money so be it Boris Johnson had 900000 with if gifts vasty shit load more than starmer

ChallahPlaiter · 28/09/2024 20:58

Daltonbear1 · 28/09/2024 20:52

He's far more decent then Nigel farage or any tory right now. Shall we talk democracy those that are sniping admit if uou like reform or the tories because Nigel made it so he can't be got rid off in his party or the vast amount of gifts Boris got but that's OK right .

In fact Farage doesn’t even have a party, it’s a company! And his unfortunate constituents can’t even get hold of him, he neither has a constituency office nor runs surgeries. Too busy being up Trump’s bum to worry about the little people once they’ve served their purpose.

Rummly · 28/09/2024 20:58

ChallahPlaiter · 28/09/2024 20:56

Why are you apparently incapable of reading my post to the end before making a fool of yourself?

Your first line has nothing to do with the rest of your post.

🙄

Appalonia · 28/09/2024 20:58

Women kept on asking him what a woman was. He could never give a straight answer. To me, it just showed his lack of any integrity or moral compass, so I'm not Surprised he's performed so poorly. Man has no vision or courage. And he's just made one bad decision after another.

Wish Rosie was the leader tbh, she's in a completely different league to him.

Won't surprise me if this is the shortest Labour government in history, or if Reform get in next time.

ladyditaverner · 28/09/2024 20:59

The tories gave their mates millions of pounds in dodgy covid contracts. I am disappointed with all this from labour because I thought they were better than this - they basically stood on principle and that's backfired - but it's not really in the same balllpark as the shit that went before. It's a crying shame though, I really thought they were different, but they're not.

Moonlaserbearwolf · 28/09/2024 20:59

But that’s not why people don’t warm to Keir.
He is disingenuous and a hypocrite.

He’s behaving more like a Tory than the Tories and people didn’t vote for that.

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