To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

[AngeloMysterioso]

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

Why is the bum enlargement so risky compared to all the other cosmetic surgeries like boob jobs, nose etc?

I know someone who died on the operating table having a boob job. Desperately sad for her family and partner.

All medical procedures carry a risk.

Because it is our society and culture that has made her think she needs this surgery

No it isn't! I'm quite shocked at the amount of people saying she has had this done to conform to society or to look a certain way for a man.. what a load of cop out rubbish which conveniently excuses women from making poor decisions.

Society and culture may influence our likes/dislikes, and normalise things, but it doesn't MAKE you do anything you don't already want to do, the only reason people have these things done is because they want them, they have access to them and they want to look a certain way for themselves.

I'm angry is legal to offer it, and angry on behalf of her kids. She chose to go ahead, why? But I accept some people are quite frankly not smart enough to decipher medical advice and vain

I'm angry is legal to offer it,

Try and ban it, and see who objects most (after the people who profit from it).

It’s pathetic. The sheer vanity. Surely the woman had better stuff to be getting on with

Yes but the person carrying out your boob job on the operating table is a qualified medical doctor who can talk you through the risks of surgery and anaesthetic. And who is trained to know how to carry out the procedure and what to do if things go wrong. And you are in a hospital, with lots of other professionally trained staff for support.

You are not in a shed in someone's back garden, being injected by someone who has no qualifications other than a few GCSEs.

It’s also social pressure to not smell like you haven’t washed for a week. Not all social pressures are the same.

It's a 1/4000 chance of death. People take that level of risk for sports all the time - you just judge this choice as morally less worthy. Do you get as angry at people who drink?

Agreed, a lot of the language is distasteful, talking about her bum.

Impossible to calculate the risk on such an unknown procedure.

We're talking about looks, things people do to look a certain way. Try to keep up.

A big bum - that's my worst nightmare - can't believe people are paying for it!
Why is this stupid and dangerous surgery even allowed in the UK - nonsense like this needs to be banned.

Or is it driven by women who want a male gaze? I’ve never met a man in my life who has shown any interest in women getting bum lifts or boob jobs.

Weak people will end up doing stupid things because of society pressure and it saddens me that sone people want to excuse it under some kind of "all her own fault" "free will" myth

I guess once you accept that we don't have as much free will as we like to think , that we all conform to society demands and biological drivers to a greater or lesser degree , you feel a little less important in your own life ?

Of course this is the left vs right , society vs individual choice that runs through our country - just a very specific example

Desperately sad , and quite nasty that people blame the victim here

I have been noting the general spread of porn culture/aesthetics, but any discussion both here and elsewhere is often met with " Stop clutching your pearls". And too often by men who seem to have infiltrated MN.

OP asks if its tragic. Yes, 100% as it was totally self inflicted and avoidable.

I'd love to see all this cosmetic filling stuff banned and removed from being normalised on TV. Look at Love Island, everyone was saying how beautiful Grace was when all I saw was a feline-esque mutilaited face like the Bogdanoff twins. The whole "industry" needs huge regulation or banning.

Yes exactly.

Enough of the ‘pressures of society’ bullshit. The vast majority of women DO NOT have BBLs, so clearly it’s not that pressing an issue.

She made a personal choice, a stupid one IMO, but it was her choice to do it.

Don’t be rude, it’s unnecessary.

The inquest was presented with this number based on a lot of data.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-66798236

Yep, the problem with fillers is they're so often done outside a medical environment.

I was having this conversation at the hairdressers just the other week. As well as hair and nails, they also do aesthetics, and the lady who does them is a trained nurse and very personable. When I was there I heard her explaining to someone on the phone that they don't offer bum fillers. So we got talking about that after, as you do, and she said she considers them a lot less safe than face and wouldn't do them outside a medical environment. I didn't know any of this til she told me, and thought of her this morning when this sad news came out.

Well clearly her daughters won't be influenced by her now, will they? Her death may act as a deterrent to them to get cosmetic procedures. However, unless there are significant changes in society in the next decade, I'd be very surprised if at least some of their self worth wasn't tied up with their looks. They're female. That's how it is the world over. Its not the fault of our mothers'.

Yes, this! Ghastly people.

Totally different story. The one being discussed here was non surgical.