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To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

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AngeloMysterioso · 26/09/2024 14:10

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

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IMBCRound2 · 26/09/2024 18:50

ComtesseDeSpair · 26/09/2024 14:23

I think it’s some form of mental health problem and body dysmorphia rather than social pressure which drives this sort of obsession with a particular look. I don’t know a single man (and I know a lot of men) who would particularly want their partner to have a giant round bum and I don’t know a single woman (and I know a lot of women) who has one or aspires to have one. There doesn’t seem to be some big drive from either sex pressuring women to get BBLs because all the women they see have one and all the men they know desire them.

Probably explains why I’m single then… 😒

SnappyClappy · 26/09/2024 18:53

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 18:41

Unfortunately we live in a society infused with societal pressure. We're socialised to behave in a certain way according to sex, we buy clothes that are available due to fashion, we copy looks that we see around us, we shave because it's the norm.

I find it difficult to believe that you don't conform in anyway to British culture.

I’m not the poster you are addressing but I live in an average standard British town. When I look around me most women have different styles. I don’t believe women are all lemmings who buy, wear and do things because they are told to like robots. People might get inspired to do things from others, but because they like it rather than thinking they HAVE TO because society says so.

Some unfortunately aspire to look like clowns and have the fake lips etc, but it’s always down to personal choice. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

Applesonthelawn · 26/09/2024 18:54

I think that the first reaction should not be to blame "society" and the expectations it puts upon us, but to blame the stupidity and shallowness of the women themselves who go along with it. She knew she had five kids to raise and still chose to take the risk for the sake of a bulbous backside. It's on her really.

bringslight · 26/09/2024 18:57

AngeloMysterioso · 26/09/2024 14:10

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

I thought western men hate Brazilian buts , but prefer slim, tall, blonde women with some boobs but not bums - blimey

Krampers · 26/09/2024 19:02

Pyjamatimenow · 26/09/2024 14:50

I’m really confused as to how this has happened. They’ve injected liquid into her bottom, presumably she wasn’t knocked out, they haven’t cut her. She died within hours of it being done. I wouldn’t have thought necrosis would be that quick. Did they inject into a vein or something?
She’s been stupid to have it done by someone obviously unqualified but there does need to be a crack down on these non medics performing procedures

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SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 26/09/2024 19:02

Women have been practicing body modification for as long as there have been women. Women rotted their faces with lead powder in the tudor times and fainted from corsets in the 1800's. We should hardly be surprised that people risk their health for their looks now too. Very sad all round.

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:04

SnappyClappy · 26/09/2024 18:53

I’m not the poster you are addressing but I live in an average standard British town. When I look around me most women have different styles. I don’t believe women are all lemmings who buy, wear and do things because they are told to like robots. People might get inspired to do things from others, but because they like it rather than thinking they HAVE TO because society says so.

Some unfortunately aspire to look like clowns and have the fake lips etc, but it’s always down to personal choice. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

People can only buy what's available to buy unless they make their own clothes. Therefore they're buying what's in 'fashion'.

Women are pressured to look youthful, various creams are advertised that are said to help with this and women buy them.

Women are socialised to wear makeup and to shave body hair.

Women are pressured to look thin and many go on diets.

You can deny all you want that no woman in Britain feels this pressure and I'll show you how much money they hand over to achieve it.

Devonshiregal · 26/09/2024 19:05

Function · 26/09/2024 14:14

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

Lots of me are damaging the crap out of themselves with roids etc tho

JoBoJoBo · 26/09/2024 19:06

Tapestree · 26/09/2024 14:15

It is absolutely tragic, and says a lot about our society and the expectations on women to endure pain and to butcher themselves in order to conform to a norm. However, I do think that the title of your thread is insensitive to the individuals involved- she didn't simply "want a bigger arse", she was a victim of societal pressure, and your wording sounds like victim blaming to me.
It's all incredibly sad for all involved.

What tosh.No normal person wants injections in their honey in order to inflate it like a blow up doll.

Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 19:07

PixieLaLar · 26/09/2024 18:00

Maybe brush up on reading if you genuinely can’t remember calling that poster a female dog.

I described her as acting all female dog, can't remember the exact verb and CBA to look back. Maybe you need to brush up on your reading, not me, if you can't see the subtle difference!!!🙄

TuVuoiFaLamericano · 26/09/2024 19:08

Hoppinggreen · 26/09/2024 14:22

A lady local to me died after stomach stapling/bypass went wrong.
She had a 3 year old and she didn't want him to be teased at school for having a fat Mum, and now he has no Mum.
This surgery is too normalised by Celebs and in the media, its proper actual surgery with all the risks etc not a quick touch up at lunchtime.

I am overweight. A close family member just went abroad and nearly died due to a gastric sleeve. She was "lucky" she made it back to the UK... Let's just say that.
I said similar to my husband...that I'd rather be the "fat mum" than leave my kids without one.
(Though my kids are spurring me on to do it naturally anyway...)

SnappyClappy · 26/09/2024 19:14

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:04

People can only buy what's available to buy unless they make their own clothes. Therefore they're buying what's in 'fashion'.

Women are pressured to look youthful, various creams are advertised that are said to help with this and women buy them.

Women are socialised to wear makeup and to shave body hair.

Women are pressured to look thin and many go on diets.

You can deny all you want that no woman in Britain feels this pressure and I'll show you how much money they hand over to achieve it.

But as I said the ones doing this are doing it because they want to. Personal choice. Not pressure from society.

And the fashion comment only applies if you are the type of person who throws out every item of clothing you own regularly. Most people don’t do that. They add to what they already have, therefore developing a style of their own.

Im a woman and I don’t do a lot of what you have listed.

KnottedTwine · 26/09/2024 19:16

How can ANYONE look at that "Lip King" guy and his assistant, and come to the conclusion that he is just the person to inject your face/arse.

Josette77 · 26/09/2024 19:17

BreatheAndFocus · 26/09/2024 18:08

It’s a tragedy that she died. So sorry for her children and family.

What makes me sad too is the horrible Insta faces, bodies and poses. Cartoonish lips, marker pen tattooed eyebrows, perma-tans - and yes, big arses. Such arses would have been the subject of comedy sketches when I was a teen, but now younger women and girls’ views are so skewed that they’re seen as desirable.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with ‘making the best of yourself’ as my Gran used to say, but that should mean a little makeup, moisturisers, etc, to still look like you but a bit ‘polished’ - not these hideous (sorry, but I think they are) fashions that risk health and/or make you look like a cartoon figure and/or a blow-up doll.

There’s too much pressure on girls and I wish schools would work to reduce this, along with parents, media, etc.

Such asses have been on black and latina women for years, and yes we've been mocked plenty for them. That's what happens when you don't fit the beauty standard of the time.

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:22

SnappyClappy · 26/09/2024 19:14

But as I said the ones doing this are doing it because they want to. Personal choice. Not pressure from society.

And the fashion comment only applies if you are the type of person who throws out every item of clothing you own regularly. Most people don’t do that. They add to what they already have, therefore developing a style of their own.

Im a woman and I don’t do a lot of what you have listed.

Then you're an anomaly. You don't wear makeup, shave, dye your hair, diet, buy clothes from shops or use anti aging products.

My point about fashion is that we have no choice about what's available to buy in the shops, not that people throw out their clothes every season.

Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 19:24

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:04

People can only buy what's available to buy unless they make their own clothes. Therefore they're buying what's in 'fashion'.

Women are pressured to look youthful, various creams are advertised that are said to help with this and women buy them.

Women are socialised to wear makeup and to shave body hair.

Women are pressured to look thin and many go on diets.

You can deny all you want that no woman in Britain feels this pressure and I'll show you how much money they hand over to achieve it.

You're reducing women into helpless idiots who buy into every trend there is to fit in!! All clothes available are not 'fashion'. I personally prefer to buy what suits me and what is practical. I don't dress for anyone - I like wearing lovely clothes because they make me feel good about myself.

I don't buy 'fast fashion'. I never have and never will. I choose items that are primarily classy, classic and well-cordinated, most importantly that they suit my body shape, but preferably something I'm not going to meet Mary, Jane and Anne wearing down the street.

I wear makeup for the same reason - it makes me feel good about myself. I wear it less often since Covid and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. I wear quite basic makeup compared to my daughters who have a plethora of brushes, lotions, potions, creams, skin enhancers, most of which I haven't even heard of! I don't care!

Although I probably should at my advanced age, I don't use any creams to make me look more youthful. I cleanse and I tone. I don't even moisturise. I have naturally quite good skin.

I haven't been on a diet in so long now I don't even remember. My appetite reduced as I got older and I lost weight naturally.

I hand over very little money for beauty products. Most of it is just a con anyway.

So you can take your stereotype and kiss it goodbye. Women are not all the same and you do us a disservice by claiming that we are!

Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 19:25

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:22

Then you're an anomaly. You don't wear makeup, shave, dye your hair, diet, buy clothes from shops or use anti aging products.

My point about fashion is that we have no choice about what's available to buy in the shops, not that people throw out their clothes every season.

Not everything in the shops is considered to be high fashion!

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 26/09/2024 19:28

MeMyCatsAndI · 26/09/2024 14:17

Think plastic surgery and Botox etc all just needs to be banned unless it medically necessary such as a fire victim etc.
It all looks very OTT and ridiculous, and the government clearly can't stop the back street butchers from killing.

I think that then runs the risk of it being even more dangerous as then dodgy underground clinics would just perform these procedures.

There are plans afoot to only allow doctors, nurses and dentists to perform things like botox, which I believe will make it much more safe.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/09/2024 19:30

DH and I were saying exactly the same thing today @AngeloMysterioso

What a waste of a young woman's life. And yeah, those poor wee children. Knowing their mama died because of a vanity procedure. Devastating. 😢

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 19:31

Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 19:24

You're reducing women into helpless idiots who buy into every trend there is to fit in!! All clothes available are not 'fashion'. I personally prefer to buy what suits me and what is practical. I don't dress for anyone - I like wearing lovely clothes because they make me feel good about myself.

I don't buy 'fast fashion'. I never have and never will. I choose items that are primarily classy, classic and well-cordinated, most importantly that they suit my body shape, but preferably something I'm not going to meet Mary, Jane and Anne wearing down the street.

I wear makeup for the same reason - it makes me feel good about myself. I wear it less often since Covid and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. I wear quite basic makeup compared to my daughters who have a plethora of brushes, lotions, potions, creams, skin enhancers, most of which I haven't even heard of! I don't care!

Although I probably should at my advanced age, I don't use any creams to make me look more youthful. I cleanse and I tone. I don't even moisturise. I have naturally quite good skin.

I haven't been on a diet in so long now I don't even remember. My appetite reduced as I got older and I lost weight naturally.

I hand over very little money for beauty products. Most of it is just a con anyway.

So you can take your stereotype and kiss it goodbye. Women are not all the same and you do us a disservice by claiming that we are!

I understand that you think the world revolves around you but I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was talking about the pressure in society to conform to certain expectations.

Could you explain why the beauty, diet, fashion and anti aging business are thriving, multi dollar industries? It's a head scratcher since no woman buys into them.

Diplodoofus · 26/09/2024 19:31

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Josette77 · 26/09/2024 19:31

bringslight · 26/09/2024 18:57

I thought western men hate Brazilian buts , but prefer slim, tall, blonde women with some boobs but not bums - blimey

Western men prefer white models? Is that what you're saying? What Western men?

I'm a thin girl with a big booty and boobs and huge curly brown hair. I'm an ex model but not very tall and I have yet to have a man turn me down because I'm a curvy brunette. In fact most men have commented on how nice my ass is.

Uricon2 · 26/09/2024 19:32

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be happy with how you look although recognising that some current "beauty" standards are always unattainable and should be ignored is necessary. Then there is is the utter dysmorphia that lead this woman into think having fillers put in her backside by unqualified people who have deformed themselves was a good idea.

At least in my youth we realised that few of us were ever going to be catwalk models meeting some impossible "ideal", as cosmetic surgery was only for Hollywood stars and the super rich. We therefore just got on with things with slap and a dodgy perm.

Tittat50 · 26/09/2024 19:32

Some of these posts are pretty cruel and in poor taste tbh. @Applesonthelawn

I get irate seeing people who are so plastic and looks obsessed myself. But the lady died, and has kids who don't ever need to hear half of this cruel criticism.

As with many things, the actual level of risk is not clearly understood. Some people believe these beauty practitioners are more capable and all knowing than they are. She was naive and ill informed.

The industry is exploiting people terribly. Look at all these celebs with ridiculous faces. There's a surgeon/ practitioner going along with all this. Some people therefore won't question it. Add something like body dysmorphia into the mix.

I believe she had no clue on earth this could actually happen to her.

Bellatrixpure · 26/09/2024 19:34

It’s so sad. I’m angry that the supposed qualified person who did this still hasn’t removed the before and after of this dead woman from their Facebook page