To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

[AngeloMysterioso]

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

They have low esteem because they think they’re not as “pretty” as one of these filtered clones imo.
I imagine a 19-20 year old thinks ”I want to look like that, pretty girls get the best looking men, and other girls envy them”
I wouldn’t be thinking ( as an older woman) that they had good dental hygiene, I’d be thinking “ wow, those Turkey teef are blinding, what a shame she’s wrecked her natural teeth to get them!”

I didn’t say you were saying using deodorant was capitulating to social pressure 😂

Someone said that they preferred how their legs felt from shaving and you said “no, it’s because of societal pressure blah blah”.

You shaving doesn’t mean that other women do, or that they do things just to conform to social norms. Some people are contrarians or just DGAF

Do you actually believe them?!

I would love it if the social media companies who profit from carrying and amplifying this kind of content were held legally and financially liable for the consequences. Can you imagine just how fast all those the ads would disappear?

Compared to how many aestheticians who are mainly women. Skilled vs unskilled.

Agree OP. I read it and thought the same. These ridiculous and arbitrary standards of beauty that are imposed on women are fucking awful. It's become so normalised to see young women with pumped up lips, fake boobs, botox. It is so sad and depressing. I feel very angry about it. It's just unfettered capitalism. Something needs to be done. But I don't know what..

It ‘s high risk even if a medically trained person does it. It should be banned imo, but then women would just find someone to do it.

Yes absolutely this

Plastic surgery has been going on for decades. Marilyn Monroe had a nose job and chin implant and despite being a tiny woman was addicted to dieting and diet pills.

Save your ire and outrage for the unregulated procedure,undertaken by unlicensed unregulated beauticians. They market it as a same day little tweak no big deal procedure . Glossy brochures. Frothy dialogue. Accessible and relatively cheap cosmetic procedures

Try be sensitive to fact that a woman who made what she thought was a safe choice for a cosmetic procedure has unfortunately died. Such procedures are portrayed as achievable,safe, a boost to self confidence and appearance

It is selfish. A friend of mine had a boob job when she had a toddler and a baby. She was unable to pick them up and care for them and everyone was rallying round her. I refused to. Of course if she had nobody else I would have but I was irritated she put herself before her kids to be honest for something high could have waited till they were older.

So what you're saying is that there's no social pressure in society for women to look a certain way? No pressure to shave, to look younger, to lose weight... No pressure at all, we spend thousands on make up, creams and tinctures, dieting, dying our hair etc for no other reason than it makes us feel good.

It just pisses me off that on a site like MN the presumption is always that if a women does something stupid it's someone else's (usually a man's) fault. For a site that claims to be feminist, there is a disturbing acceptance that women have no agency in their own lives and shouldn't have to take responsibility.

It was done by Jordan James Parke. People with severe dysphoria should not be working in this field. Jordan James is obvious very unwell to do that to himself. It's terrifying tbh.

"The public wants what the public gets ..."

https://www.instagram.com/jordanjamesparke/?hl=en

My sister used to get mocked for her big lips along with most black women I know in the 80's and 90's. Calling big lips 'ape bum' when they are typically black features is not appropriate.

Right now the ideal isn't thin lips and small bums. It's interesting that for once white women aren't the default, and white women are now belittling curvy bums and big lips.

Some women watch the SM/“entertainment programmes above” and find the car-crash people on screens pathetic and are laughing at them.

Others watch and aspire to be them.

Producers are certainly not making these programmes for the good of society. It’s entertainment and advertising/ subscriber £££.

Everyone is being used.

This situation is even sadder and stranger than it appears at first. The woman who died had her own "Aesthetics" business, she called herself an "advanced practitioner" but had only worked in this field for 2 years. Recently she had advertised on Face Book that she would be offering Liquid BBL, indicating it gave amazing results ,had no downtime, gave instant results and so on. She was advertising that she would inject 400ml of filler for £900. The person who injected her is said to have been training her to inflict this on her customers.
I just cannot understand how she could have thought this would not end in disaster and how she felt she would be qualified to perform the procedure herself. I feel so sorry for her family.

Because anyone who risks permanent damage or death for vanity doesn't deserve an ounce of empathy

I know! You see the images and it’s “freaks” and photoshop.

Do the customers actually SEE normal, where I see Frankenstein-face?

It's very sad, I don't think people understand the dangers. The prevalence of things like Botox and other surgeries that can cause serious harm show that.

I’m with you. It’s awful what’s happened but at the end of the day she made the reckless decision that the appearance of her bum for her own vanity was her priority and was worth whatever risk.

The world has gone mad quite frankly. I feel so sorry for those children.

Can't wait to get home and snuggle my cat too! He always talks (purrs) perfect sense in this crazy world.

I think it is largely peer pressure. But actually, probably not even peer ‘pressure’. If everybody around you is doing something, you start to normalise it and think it looks great.

My 18 and 20-year-old girls and their university friends would never have this work done. They can’t stand the look of lip filler or any treatments or cosmetic surgery. They are all lovely and beautiful. And look great naturally because they are all young women and gorgeous. And their peers at university are the same.

I go to the hairdresser and there is a lovely 19-year-old who washes my hair. She has had so much work done since I have been going there. She was genuinely stunning. Yet she now has inflated lips and something else done to her face that I can’t quite make out. She also goes on a sunbed weekly. When I have asked her about it, she says her mum and everybody around her does it and she apparently looks ‘dreadful’ without these procedures. She does not.

I generally think these women believe it’s a look to aspire to because all their friends and family do it.

Thankfully this stuff is not a thing in my house.