To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

[AngeloMysterioso]

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

@Function

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

No. They are dying of traffic accidents and suicides

Men die from steriod abuse trying to get muscles.

Especially given body hair is designed to protect the skin and regulate our temperature.

For most people shaving = in grown hairs. It’s not natural to shave, as shaving removes layer of skin.

Yeah just noticed that Tess’ front two teeth were slightly bucked.

Turkey teef are again so false and they glow in the dark

Whilst there is a societal pressure here, it's not a super strong one. 99% of women manage to avoid succumbing to it.

We've been watching MAFS UK and were horrified that so many of the young women have butchered their appearances. It's the lips that bewilder me because they end up having to constantly push them back out from their teeth with their tongue and look especially gormless while doing so...... what a thing to do to yourself.

We're local to Gloucester and apparently someone started a GoScamMe which has since been taken down as it was getting a lot of attention on social media. Unsurprisingly.

Absolutely! And the women I see on social media who model these looks have pretty much entirely female followings. I do think shitty tv does normalise it and that is a problem, but completely denying the personal responsibility of this woman is a bit ridiculous

I'm sorry for her family, but she chose to do something stupid just because she wanted to look a certain way. We can blame society and men all we want, but ultimately, we're in charge of our own choices, and some of us will continue to make poor decisions.

If her upbringing had instilled in her a belief in her own self-worth beyond her physical appearance, maybe she wouldn't have been so dissatisfied with her body that she chose to undergo a risky procedure for no good reason. Until people place greater value on things that really matter (or the option for needless procedures is taken away through lack of availability or affordability), this sickness will continue.

Sports men shave their legs for sports reasons. Men can choose to have beards or not. Meanwhile, a woman with full hairy leg and armpit is rarely seen in our society. It's masculine to be hursute, and feminine to be denuded, according to our society norms.

Aren't good enough for what? To exist?

I would really love to hear the inner monologue of the sort of woman who thinks this way. I'm lacking in imagination, obviously. My inner monologue when I see this aesthetic is a not-very-sophisticated "they all look the same. What's so amazing about big lips: is it that men will want to kiss you? All that hair must take so long to wash/dry/style, how do they find the time? How can she see through those lashes? Do they drag the upper eyelid down or are they featherlight? Teeth look well maintained, obviously has good dental hygiene. Is that real skin or make up? Oh to be young again" etc etc.

I would so, so love to hear what a 19/20/however many years old woman thinks when she sees this look on another woman.

Also interesting that 90% of plastic surgeons in the UK are men…

Why is it when a woman does something stupid she is some sort of victim of society? This woman was an idiot and her children will grow up believing this. So are all the other women who go around trying to meddle with their faces or their bodies. They choose to spend money on these products, often to the detriment of their children if they have them.They don't give a shit about the environmental or ethical impact of anything they do, they spend their time scrolling through Instagram to the point that they create a distorted view of normal life. I dont know of any nice smart woman who behaves like this. I'll be honest and say i don't like women like this and don't respect them. I certainly don't feel sorry for them.

My previous reply was supposed to quote this

This woman was an idiot and her children will grow up believing this.

Uncalled for. Her children will miss their mum. Sounds like you’ve had a procedure too - an empathy bypass.

As parents we should do more to help out girls have confidence in natural beauty. I work in a high school. When I qualified girls would wear concealer and foundation. Then they started wearing mascara and lipstick. Few years later and the eyebrow thing started and the orange tan. Then acrylic nails started appearing, contouring followed and now we have kids in year 8 coming to school with fake eyelashes on. Sure some of them sneak it in in the loos but plenty are dropped off by their parents wearing all of this and they done seem to have a problem with it. It’s at this age the problems start. Absolutely awful what young girls and women do to themselves in the name of beauty.

Reading the BBC article, the procedures should be banned in the U.K. It shouldn’t be left up to individual councils to ban specific companies from specific procedures. This is a public health issue.

Collins said: “Liquid BBL procedures are a crisis waiting to happen. They are advertised on social media as ‘risk-free’, ‘cheaper’ alternatives to the surgical counterpart and that could not be further from the truth.”
She told BBC Radio 5 Live that facial fillers are "relatively safe", due to the small amount of product being injected.
However, the "huge volumes" used in BBLs present a higher risk of complications.
"I can't stress strongly enough how incredibly dangerous these procedures are, especially as they are often being [performed] in non-sterile and non-clinical environments by people with no healthcare experience, often using unlicensed products that are not fit for purpose," Ms Collins said

Comfortable, my arse - and dont even get me started on anal waxing

This constant desire to perform for the male gaze

Speak for yourself.

I can only fathom that it’s a form of body dysmorphia. In no way, shape, or form, would I subject my body(or my children) to this type of butchery. Zero sympayhy for the mother. So much sorrow for the children

Depends on how you put on fat. More likely to just get a fat bum and a big belly. The look is a small waist and a big bum. Not naturally achievable for most without some kind of surgical intervention. The sad thing is that what she’s had is a non surgical option that people normally go for when they can’t afford the surgery or think it’s a safer, less invasive option

I will never forget the seemingly fit and healthy young man in my home town who died aged 20 after minor cosmetic surgery. I think he had a bad reaction to the anaesthetic. Apparently he had always felt self-conscious about one of his facial features, but I saw a pre-op photo of him in our local paper and couldn’t tell what was supposed to be wrong with it. Poor bloke and his poor family.

That's not a better message though. Plus bigger butts are coveted in different communities.

Bigger butts and curvier women are typically in the black and latina community, and for once we are the ideal.

It's a very sad and unnecessary death,
The guy who did it had quite a big social media presence, had been on botched, and was selling dodgy weight loss jabs without regulation. It sounds like he was a right cowboy.
There needs to be regulation in this industry, anyone can do a one-day course and then go about injecting foreign substances into people with minimal knowledge of facial structures and how to deal with complications.

Social media has a big part to play in presenting a fake standard of beauty. Hardly any of these influencers post without beauty filters or editing. Its an unrealistic and unobtainable beauty standard leading some people to get more and more work done to try and achieve what they see online.
It's not only women, loads of bodybuilders/fitness gurus have died before hitting 40 due to steroid abuse. All to look good for Instagram.

5 kids should have been her priority not her looks. Unless, the husband was manipulating her. I had aesthetic operations in the past but since becoming a mother it would never happen again. I am not taking risks for vanity. Also, what an unattractive operation. Can’t think of a more ugly and vulgar woman than Kim Kardashian and her big chassis bum.

I don't shave very often because frankly I'm way too lazy for all that but some hair is different to other hair.

I can rock leg hair with no issue at all pretty much and do about 98% of the time.

I do find when it gets to long the 'undercarriage' area becomes an issue, no one like 'matting' during their period etc... so a splodge of hair remover every couple of months to keep it manageable length.

Armpits use to cause an issue in summer as it was thick ridged hair and like wire rubbing, then when combined with sweat it cause actual horrible chaffing irritation. I had them lasered and while the hair still grows there its thin, soft and downy now not thick and wirey so no longer an issue that needs shaving.

I had laser for me not men as the hair caused a painful issues and with shaving I get razor burn and then the hair grows back pointy/sharp and rubs on clothes like its bloody velcro which drives me mad.

I have been with DH since 18, he has seen all my body and hair and isn't bothered at all (I could role in mud and wear a potato sack and he would still manage to get horny lol) and I have no need to impress any other men.