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To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

583 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 26/09/2024 14:10

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

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Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 16:38

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 16:01

You can tell yourself whatever you want, if that makes you feel better.

😂

Fluufer · 26/09/2024 16:38

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:31

It’s not filler, it’s fat from other parts of the body.

This one was nonsurgical, which is filler. Must be bucketloads.

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:38

Onlyonekenobe · 26/09/2024 16:27

The advertising comes because there's an audience.

Why is there an audience for Love Island?

Because young, impressionable girls see what they regard as perfection, flawless complexion, thick, glossy hair, long lashes, puffed up lips, pert straight noses, perfect slim figure, unbelievably blinding white, straight teeth. They feel insecure about their own looks and think they aren’t good enough.

Dollybantree · 26/09/2024 16:39

itwasnevermine · 26/09/2024 14:15

@Function men just die from the mental health crisis they have to deal with in silence instead. There's tragedy on both sides of the fence.

🙄

SnappyClappy · 26/09/2024 16:39

I can’t understand why people carry on having the procedures when everyone has heard stories like this in the press.
Vanity has killed her, and her kids will always know their mum died because she wanted a big bum. It would be darkly funny if it wasn’t so bloody tragic. What a waste of life.
I just hope her children learn from their mothers mistake.

JessiJen · 26/09/2024 16:40

This particular interventions is solely and 100% for the male gaze. Thanks to porn culture. Ewww.

LadyGabriella · 26/09/2024 16:40

I’ve always felt like we need to normalise things like women’s faces without makeup. So younger girls and other women alike can see that we don’t have to be flawless ..because nobody is naturally. And it’s normal. And acceptable. Almost all media including news channels, women are wearing heavy makeup.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 16:40

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:38

Because young, impressionable girls see what they regard as perfection, flawless complexion, thick, glossy hair, long lashes, puffed up lips, pert straight noses, perfect slim figure, unbelievably blinding white, straight teeth. They feel insecure about their own looks and think they aren’t good enough.

Yep and there’s a reason why influencers are paid thousands of pounds for ONE Instagram post - girls are consuming their posts daily.

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 16:42

Runnerinthenight · 26/09/2024 16:38

😂

Easily amused I see.

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 16:44

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 16:40

Yep and there’s a reason why influencers are paid thousands of pounds for ONE Instagram post - girls are consuming their posts daily.

Even the word Influencer or worse still Content Creator..... Cant these be banned?

Its such a double standards country at times. Strict rules for some things. Gambling bad, smoking bad, drinking bad, but selling tonnes of cosmetic and non cosmetic surgeries is absolutely fine. Gastric sleeves and turkey teeth are becoming nomalised by content creators who have hundreds of thousands or even millions of followers.

Animatic · 26/09/2024 16:45

Function · 26/09/2024 14:14

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

They surely do other stupid stuff

Toddlerteaplease · 26/09/2024 16:47

LadyGabriella · 26/09/2024 16:40

I’ve always felt like we need to normalise things like women’s faces without makeup. So younger girls and other women alike can see that we don’t have to be flawless ..because nobody is naturally. And it’s normal. And acceptable. Almost all media including news channels, women are wearing heavy makeup.

Couldn't agree more!

Boomer55 · 26/09/2024 16:47

Silly woman, but it’s sad it’s turned out like this, Thoughts with all those left to pick up the pieces.

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:47

LadyGabriella · 26/09/2024 16:40

I’ve always felt like we need to normalise things like women’s faces without makeup. So younger girls and other women alike can see that we don’t have to be flawless ..because nobody is naturally. And it’s normal. And acceptable. Almost all media including news channels, women are wearing heavy makeup.

These woman also have sharp jawlines, no turkey necks, and inevitably have perfect, white straight teeth. It’s demoralising for the average middle aged/ older women viewers.
if you look around when in the supermarket, the majority of elderly women ( and men!) don’t measure up to these TV norms. Many are overweight, jowly, double chinned, have big noses, skin imperfections, bad or missing teeth, poor hair etc. That’s the normal !

SpidersAreShitheads · 26/09/2024 16:48

The thing about societal pressure and male gaze is not that it's necessarily on a conscious level.

It's the images which are presented as attractive, desirable, hygienic etc that we are all bombarded with constantly. We're not necessarily conscious that we're absorbing them and being influenced by the standards.

Women my age grew up with slim, beautiful women promoting products. "heroin chic" was a thing during the Kate Moss era - a revolting term, but there you go. There were no chubby, unattractive women - I remember the shock everywhere when Sophie Dahl started to model at the "horrific" size of 16. So many comments about how disgusting she was - it was unbelievably controversial.

And as we're discussing body hair....I remember the shock at Julia Roberts attending an event with unshaved armpits. Widespread disgust. And women who don't shave/wax today in the entertainment industry are still regarded with suspicion as some controversial, edgy figure....it's still an unacceptable beauty standard for the main.

Newspaper headlines, advertising, TV shows, films, and now social media too - we are bombarded with images of what society deems to be attractive constantly.

Now, there may be some elements that you consciously reject. For example, there's been a huge rise in women getting rid of all their pubic hair. Very often women insist it's because they "feel cleaner" or various other reasons. I mean, there's the possibility that may be a contributing factor but it's funny how the elimination of pubic hair coincides with the pornification of our society, and the increase in the popularity of bald pubic regions in porn. There's a strong correlation but many women won't realise how they've been influenced. But not every woman gets rid of her pubic hair. Same with leg hair, and underarm hair.

There's no judgement in it because we're all influenced to a greater or lesser extent, uncomfortable although that idea is. And many of these societal messages are deeply misogynistic - we're surrounded by them all of the time, it's hardly surprising that we internalise them without realising.

And yes, the majority of men will tell you that they prefer the natural look ie/no surgery. But the women that get the attention/dates are the women who look the way society deems attractive (obviously these are sweeping generalisations, there are always exceptions). Look at the type of women who men prefer in porn - they're certainly not natural.

I think the other issue is photo filters. It's allowed the media and celebrities to present fictional images as fact. Everyone believes that stars are wandering around with pore-less, smooth skin and not a single wrinkle or bulge in sight. It's such utter bollocks and I object so strongly to filters. It's created unrealistic expectations and I think that's helped drive the demand for Botox, fillers, and surgery.

Even the latest trend - dare I mention weight loss injections?! Genuine, useful medical intervention for anyone with significant weight to lose. But like all medications, they carry some risks - and yet what's happening? Women admitting to lying/manipulating the information they give to doctors online so they can be prescribed these wonder drugs - just because they want to shift the last stone or two and know that medically they wouldn't be given the jabs, even privately. Maybe they'll be fine, but maybe they won't. I hope they are. But it's silly and naive.

I blame society, which is still driven by men, I blame the celebrities pushing lies, but I'm afraid I do also blame the individuals too. We are all capable of thinking things through, and the information about risks is readily available. If you choose to do things to your body, there's always the chance of unpleasant side effects which sometimes can be extremely serious.

It's very, very sad and I feel desperately sorry for her children and family.

Cornercandy · 26/09/2024 16:50

People need to understand that natural beauty is more beautiful than surgical beauty.

Most surgery looks so false and has made many women more ugly imo

Cornercandy · 26/09/2024 16:51

Stop copying celebrities. Never took inspiration from a celebrity- even hairstyle

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:52

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 15:56

Did anyone see the state of the love island women this year. Almost all had faces full of this rubbish, same as the deceased. Blame social media, blame conforming, but men arent craving it!

They look like clones, with ape’s bum lips, thinned, too small noses, hamster filled cheeks, huge rumps, inflated boobs, alarming eyebrows. Horrible role models!

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 16:53

Cornercandy · 26/09/2024 16:50

People need to understand that natural beauty is more beautiful than surgical beauty.

Most surgery looks so false and has made many women more ugly imo

100%
And even older women arent immune. Look at Tess Daley and her new fat cheeks and chin and set of Turkey Teefs.

Fancypopop · 26/09/2024 16:53

I don’t feel any pressure to get a BBL because I don’t follow people on social media who promote it. Instagram isn’t mandatory and people aren’t forced to follow those accounts that espouse fillers or procedures. They seek them out because they clearly like them. That’s how the algorithms work, so you get shown more of the posts you like.

It’s awfully sad what has happened but she made the choice to do it despite the risks. She worked in aesthetics and clearly had an interest in cosmetic procedures already. Not all women are the same and not all women idolise plastic surgery.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 16:53

SpidersAreShitheads · 26/09/2024 16:48

The thing about societal pressure and male gaze is not that it's necessarily on a conscious level.

It's the images which are presented as attractive, desirable, hygienic etc that we are all bombarded with constantly. We're not necessarily conscious that we're absorbing them and being influenced by the standards.

Women my age grew up with slim, beautiful women promoting products. "heroin chic" was a thing during the Kate Moss era - a revolting term, but there you go. There were no chubby, unattractive women - I remember the shock everywhere when Sophie Dahl started to model at the "horrific" size of 16. So many comments about how disgusting she was - it was unbelievably controversial.

And as we're discussing body hair....I remember the shock at Julia Roberts attending an event with unshaved armpits. Widespread disgust. And women who don't shave/wax today in the entertainment industry are still regarded with suspicion as some controversial, edgy figure....it's still an unacceptable beauty standard for the main.

Newspaper headlines, advertising, TV shows, films, and now social media too - we are bombarded with images of what society deems to be attractive constantly.

Now, there may be some elements that you consciously reject. For example, there's been a huge rise in women getting rid of all their pubic hair. Very often women insist it's because they "feel cleaner" or various other reasons. I mean, there's the possibility that may be a contributing factor but it's funny how the elimination of pubic hair coincides with the pornification of our society, and the increase in the popularity of bald pubic regions in porn. There's a strong correlation but many women won't realise how they've been influenced. But not every woman gets rid of her pubic hair. Same with leg hair, and underarm hair.

There's no judgement in it because we're all influenced to a greater or lesser extent, uncomfortable although that idea is. And many of these societal messages are deeply misogynistic - we're surrounded by them all of the time, it's hardly surprising that we internalise them without realising.

And yes, the majority of men will tell you that they prefer the natural look ie/no surgery. But the women that get the attention/dates are the women who look the way society deems attractive (obviously these are sweeping generalisations, there are always exceptions). Look at the type of women who men prefer in porn - they're certainly not natural.

I think the other issue is photo filters. It's allowed the media and celebrities to present fictional images as fact. Everyone believes that stars are wandering around with pore-less, smooth skin and not a single wrinkle or bulge in sight. It's such utter bollocks and I object so strongly to filters. It's created unrealistic expectations and I think that's helped drive the demand for Botox, fillers, and surgery.

Even the latest trend - dare I mention weight loss injections?! Genuine, useful medical intervention for anyone with significant weight to lose. But like all medications, they carry some risks - and yet what's happening? Women admitting to lying/manipulating the information they give to doctors online so they can be prescribed these wonder drugs - just because they want to shift the last stone or two and know that medically they wouldn't be given the jabs, even privately. Maybe they'll be fine, but maybe they won't. I hope they are. But it's silly and naive.

I blame society, which is still driven by men, I blame the celebrities pushing lies, but I'm afraid I do also blame the individuals too. We are all capable of thinking things through, and the information about risks is readily available. If you choose to do things to your body, there's always the chance of unpleasant side effects which sometimes can be extremely serious.

It's very, very sad and I feel desperately sorry for her children and family.

Excellent post. And it’s the same with Princess Kate now, she is idolised for her thin body by many.

housethatbuiltme · 26/09/2024 16:54

Its hardly new, people have been having surgeries and cosmetic procedures for a long time.

Even in the old old days, I met an elderly woman at church who told of how she had all her teeth pulled 'preventatively' at SIXTEEN so she could go straight to dentures.

Remember even over 100 years ago people use to put belladonna into their eyes and lead and arsenic on their skin and even drank mercury and uranium as magic 'elixirs' to look better/younger.

RitaFires · 26/09/2024 16:54

What a genuinely awful story. Obviously from working in the business she had a skewed idea about the safety of the procedure.

There is no way I would let a non medically trained person inject me for any reason, particularly not in a place that is so risky for embolism.

Bignanna · 26/09/2024 16:55

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 16:05

One goon on a tv show for idiots does not represent normal men. Yet many normal women are getting these fillers done, just look at aesthetics available on every high street. It used to be botoxing creases now it puffing your cheeks and chin out like that doll off Saw films. I can only hope this tragedy clamps down on this unregulated and dangerous industry.

With fillers at £180 plus per mil, how do they afford to have it done, then have maintenance injections? Botox is even more expensive!

Candlelitlunch · 26/09/2024 16:55

Quite a few women saying that they shave their legs because it's more comfortable rather than societal pressure. Can anyone explain why lots of men aren't shaving their legs because it's more comfortable? Why is having hairy legs only something that is uncomfortable for women? And does that mean you will also shave your arms?

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