To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

[AngeloMysterioso]

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

No. That's utterly pathetic and shows zero debating skills. I'd be mortified for you if I cared enough.

There must be pretty much zero pressure to have a big bum in our country in the real world (as opposed to the TikTok world). Outside of TikTok (which is usually for the brain numbed) where is the pressure to have a big bum?

The big bum craze is all connected to the mainstreaming of pornography. Anal sex has become mainstream due to porn with all the focus on the bum and so it has become ' fashionable'.
Twenty years ago and more nobody wanted a big bum . Women were doing everything they could to hide their bums.

The same with public hair removal. The all off look comes from porn- as does labia trimming. Pornography is now so pervasive that women are trying to achieve standards that were set by men originally to make pornography more graphic. And women will swear blind that they are doing it for themselves because they are so conditioned.
It's like feminism never happened.

Nice clothes don’t tend to have health risks.

Well, not for the wearers ...

Everything in life is a risk though. People have autonomy to make choices for themselves

Did anyone see the state of the love island women this year. Almost all had faces full of this rubbish, same as the deceased. Blame social media, blame conforming, but men arent craving it!

This is not new - my school friend’s mum died on the operating table having a tummy tuck in the 1980s. That has coloured my view of unnecessary procedures for life.

i thought this was going to be about katie price 😳

The reason you don't like hairy legs doesn't come from nowhere

I am very sad for her children. But she made an incredibly stupid decision and she paid the price unfortunately

Actually I used to work with someone who was setting up her own cosmetic tweakment business, she was pressurizing all the women in the office into getting some work done (for free as she would be practising on you).

Not really seeing the pressure from men there. So struggling to see how this can be blamed on misogyny.

Yes calling someone a ‘female dog’ is the height of debating skills.

Which you continually and annoying keep insisting is due to societal pressure. I am old enough and confident enough in my own skin not to be influenced in that way.

It's not even worth debating the issue with you is it, because you keep twisting things to suit your own flawed logic.

You cave to societal pressure all you want luv. I'll just keep on doing things my own way.

It's but about blaming her but on the other hand it's not absolving her of any responsibility either, it doesn't matter if she was told it was safe etc she was still a grown adult who us allowed to make choices for herself, a choice she made.

@Allfur and women can't trust how their bodies feel because...

There must be pretty much zero pressure to have a big bum in our country in the real world (as opposed to the TikTok world). Outside of TikTok (which is usually for the brain numbed) where is the pressure to have a big bum?

Well I said appearance so was talking generally, do you think women have no pressure re how they look? “ideal” body shape has definitely changed to a rounder, bigger butt & plenty of women do want that. I’d like my younger one back but would never get injections.

She did these aesthetics herself so surely knew how unregulated the industry is.

Its an obsession.... look at the state of the guy who ran the company that delivered the procedure to her.

It's tragic but she made the choice to spend the money and take the risk. I do feel dreadfully sorry for the children that she put the desire for this procedure ahead of them in terms of the risk she was taking. .

According to her FB, one of her jobs was an Advanced Aesthetic practitioner at Crystal Clear Aesthetics. I wonder what group did this procedure on her?

My heart breaks for her family and I wish women could be happy with themselves and not be influenced by celebs, influencers and society.

You can tell yourself whatever you want, if that makes you feel better.

Everything in life is a risk though. People have autonomy to make choices for themselves

Of course but I think it’s sensible to limit the unnecessary risks.

I'm very sad and angry for her kids. I'll leave it at that.

You can't eliminate risk completely, just getting in a car to go to work carries a risk. But there are some risks that are probably foolhardy when you have dependents. I'd count smoking as an unnecessary risk when people depend on you, definitely. But equally, it'd be more risky to ban cosmetic surgery. Unlegislated surgery would be even riskier, just look at the figures around abortion when illegal. Surely making all of these "treatments" fall under a certain level of medical.supervision (including lip fillers), the cost picked up by those who want such an extravagance.

Absolutely agree. One of the male MAFS contestants last year said something akin to 'I prefer women who have had work done' like how has that even become a beauty standard ?

I can't imagine why anyone would want a bigger bum anyway. Are they mad?

It is desperately sad for the children. For the wider family.