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Bisexual Awareness Month

293 replies

InPulaCuSatelitul · 25/09/2024 21:18

Apparently we’re celebrating this at work, which seems to consist of endless blogs about being bisexual and being “visible.” Fine, no problem with that, but why do I need to know in the workplace? Does it affect how they do their job?

I’m not being goady, I genuinely don’t see why I need to know.

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sweetpickle2 · 27/09/2024 07:30

Wow a lot of posts here coming very close to saying its okay to be racist at work??

bigvig · 27/09/2024 07:33

MonsteraMama · 25/09/2024 21:22

As a bisexual person who keeps my bisexuality completely out of work and 99% of social situations, this kind of thing makes me cringe tremendously.

None of my colleagues need to know which sets of genitals are my favourites. It's completely irrelevant to my job and life outside of the bedroom.

This! No one needs to know. I felt like 10 years ago people were far more accepting than they are now. Having pride flags and pointless tokenistic awareness weeks has backfired spectacularly.

notprincehamlet · 27/09/2024 07:41

you get it from everyone homophonic too
Hear here

Whenwillitgetwarm · 27/09/2024 07:51

I notice Islamophobia and Black History have been raised a few times.

Should we stop being told about the First and Second World War? Stop Rememberance Day, Holocaust Rememberance Day etc as we already know about these things so don’t need to be regularly told?

Alectoishome · 27/09/2024 09:23

Whenwillitgetwarm · 27/09/2024 07:51

I notice Islamophobia and Black History have been raised a few times.

Should we stop being told about the First and Second World War? Stop Rememberance Day, Holocaust Rememberance Day etc as we already know about these things so don’t need to be regularly told?

Where is the parralel??
WW1&2 were global events that affected virtually everyone at the time and we honour those who made the ultimate sacrifice for us on one day a year by those who want to having a two min silence, wearing a poppy badge or going to a church service on Sunday. 85 million people died in ww2 alone.

I cannot fathom how you are relating that to work places putting out bunting for black history month and M&S doing a special LGBTQ rainbow sandwich of the month, special rainbow lanyards, having to attend powerpoint presentations about how to be less Islamaphobic, and all these other nonsensical notions that are patronising to those who they are supposed to be about and has pissed everybody else right off as, after being throughly patient about it all for the past decade, we have realised it is never ending and only gets worse.

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 09:36

Alectoishome · 27/09/2024 09:23

Where is the parralel??
WW1&2 were global events that affected virtually everyone at the time and we honour those who made the ultimate sacrifice for us on one day a year by those who want to having a two min silence, wearing a poppy badge or going to a church service on Sunday. 85 million people died in ww2 alone.

I cannot fathom how you are relating that to work places putting out bunting for black history month and M&S doing a special LGBTQ rainbow sandwich of the month, special rainbow lanyards, having to attend powerpoint presentations about how to be less Islamaphobic, and all these other nonsensical notions that are patronising to those who they are supposed to be about and has pissed everybody else right off as, after being throughly patient about it all for the past decade, we have realised it is never ending and only gets worse.

Ha! This is so funny. So, it’s okay to host an annual even to remember a war that finished almost 80 years ago, but it’s absolutely unacceptable to host an event that aims to make living people’s lives better.

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 09:38

Whenwillitgetwarm · 27/09/2024 07:51

I notice Islamophobia and Black History have been raised a few times.

Should we stop being told about the First and Second World War? Stop Rememberance Day, Holocaust Rememberance Day etc as we already know about these things so don’t need to be regularly told?

I think this is an excellent point that I’d not thought of before. I bet a lot of the posters saying that events to appreciate and support minority groups are unacceptable and pointless, are passionate about events like remembrance day. It’s so odd.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 27/09/2024 09:56

Katielovesteatime · 25/09/2024 23:55

This makes me weirdly happy. Sexuality shouldn’t be a shameful secret or something that needs to be private! Would be lovely if everyone was more open and accepting of one another. Acceptance - not a very Mumsnet thing though 😂

There’s a big difference between secrecy because something’s seen as ‘shameful’, and a normal desire for privacy as regards personal, private matters.

Alectoishome · 27/09/2024 10:07

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 09:36

Ha! This is so funny. So, it’s okay to host an annual even to remember a war that finished almost 80 years ago, but it’s absolutely unacceptable to host an event that aims to make living people’s lives better.

I couldnt care less if they continue to do remembrance day or not. But its not something that's ever been aggressively forced on me, I've not been forced to listen to people droning and whinging on about it in the workplace. So they are not comparable.
Anyway you can argue all you want about it, the tide has turned and people just roll their eyes behind your back about this kind of rubbish now. We can see it for the drivel that it is.
Treat all colleagues with respect and professionalism in the work place, that is all that is required. All the tedious, navel-gazing and how to be an ally waffle has had its day. Especially with how bad things have become with the cost of living crisis etc, everyone has their own problems and it's tone deaf to be trying to flog this stuff still.

Blondiebeachbabe · 27/09/2024 10:40

I only like straight men with broad shoulders. When is my month?

sweetpickle2 · 27/09/2024 10:45

Sorry to hear you've been discriminated against and hate crimed for decades for your preference for straight men with broad shoulders @Blondiebeachbabe, although I admit I'm surprised.

Honestly, all those sorts of posts just smack of "white lives matter too!"

KimberleyClark · 27/09/2024 11:44

Blondiebeachbabe · 27/09/2024 10:40

I only like straight men with broad shoulders. When is my month?

Have you ever been discriminated against for only liking straight men?

1offnamechange · 27/09/2024 12:50

Maria1979 · 26/09/2024 20:07

Oh, get over yourself. You really think there is a need for a bisexual month in the workplace? Jeesus, I'm bi as well but no need to be shouting about it on the rooftops because it's not or atleast shouldn't be interesting to anyone but myself.

I didn't pass any comment about whether there was a need for bisexual month, I don't care either way and have made several posts to that effect already on this thread. I just said your post had echoes of the old homophobic 'what about meeeeee....' which it does. You saying 'why isn't there a tired mums month' is exactly the same ridiculous argument as 'why isn't there a straight pride.'

Not sure about your workplace but mine (which as I've said is the type to celebrate any and every thing going) does have absolutely loads of the same sort of stuff (blogs, awareness posts, training sessions) on peri/menopause. The types of workplaces that go hard on this sort of non-work related awareness stuff tend to go in a wide variety of topics which is why I find it so odd that it's just the sexuality one that's getting people's knickers in a twist.

Also if you're bisexual then you aren't asexual, are you? So that's also bullshit.

Maria1979 · 27/09/2024 12:54

1offnamechange · 27/09/2024 12:50

I didn't pass any comment about whether there was a need for bisexual month, I don't care either way and have made several posts to that effect already on this thread. I just said your post had echoes of the old homophobic 'what about meeeeee....' which it does. You saying 'why isn't there a tired mums month' is exactly the same ridiculous argument as 'why isn't there a straight pride.'

Not sure about your workplace but mine (which as I've said is the type to celebrate any and every thing going) does have absolutely loads of the same sort of stuff (blogs, awareness posts, training sessions) on peri/menopause. The types of workplaces that go hard on this sort of non-work related awareness stuff tend to go in a wide variety of topics which is why I find it so odd that it's just the sexuality one that's getting people's knickers in a twist.

Also if you're bisexual then you aren't asexual, are you? So that's also bullshit.

One can be bisexual and asexual. Also heterosexual/homosexual and asexual. Wait and see until you hit perimenopause:)

MarkingBad · 27/09/2024 13:11

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 01:22

Again, the purpose of the event is not to provide entertainment to heterosexual people. It doesn’t matter whether people care about it or not. If you don’t care, great! It won’t bother you. If you do care and are angry about the existence of bisexual people, and feel they should have to hide this aspect of their life, or view it as a shameful, dirty secret, then you are exactly the reason why the event is needed.

Most of all, though, the event if for bisexual people, to make them feel safe and welcome in the environment where they spend most of their lives.

I’ll say it again - if it doesn’t interest you, it’s probably not for you. AND THAT’S OK! Not everything is for you about you!

You read between lines and find novels that are pure fiction.

Please don't put words in my mouth that are not and never were there.

MarkingBad · 27/09/2024 13:13

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 01:12

I don’t think everyone needs to actively care about everything. But it’s important to make everyone feel safe, included, welcome and accepted, regardless of religion or sexuality.

The people who have a problem with this seem to be mistakenly assuming that the day is for the benefit of heterosexual people.

Again, no one has said anything like that, it is pure assumption of peoples motives on your part.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/09/2024 13:16

Why does anyonr need to know their colleagues’ sexuality?

sweetpickle2 · 27/09/2024 13:41

Because it's nice to make small talk about your life?

user1471516498 · 27/09/2024 13:55

I suspect that this awareness campaign qas dreamed up by an "ally". It may be well meaning, but most bisexual people (including myself) do not want to draw attention to themselves. The people who have a problem with bisexuality won't listen anyway, and you risk alienating people who previously did not have a problem, because then bisexual people are labeled as woke attention seekers.

Bobbingtons · 27/09/2024 14:09

In my last workplace we started organising bisexuality awareness events which taught me why they are important. The events were not mandatory, but were well attended. For me there were a few reasons why these were successful and important. Usually the sessions were based around bi individuals sharing their stories and experience.
The main reason these were important because, no matter how tolerant people were we still live in a heteronormative society where heterosexuality is seen as the default.
Firstly it allowed bi people to get to know each other and share experiences. We also had a lot of managers who attended as they wanted to know how to help understand the lives of bi employees.
But the most useful thing from a feminist perspective was the fact that for women a lot of them did not understand their sexuality and desires unto later in life, some in their 40s and 50s who had married, had kids but were shameful and confused about their desires and attraction towards women. For them, hearing about our life's experience helped them understand themselves and have a different perspective as they had hidden that side of their lives for decades and often it was the first experience they had of funding it that it was normal and natural and allowed them to put aside the shame and confusion and they bisexuality was in fact the largest group of non heterosexual people.

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 15:38

Bobbingtons · 27/09/2024 14:09

In my last workplace we started organising bisexuality awareness events which taught me why they are important. The events were not mandatory, but were well attended. For me there were a few reasons why these were successful and important. Usually the sessions were based around bi individuals sharing their stories and experience.
The main reason these were important because, no matter how tolerant people were we still live in a heteronormative society where heterosexuality is seen as the default.
Firstly it allowed bi people to get to know each other and share experiences. We also had a lot of managers who attended as they wanted to know how to help understand the lives of bi employees.
But the most useful thing from a feminist perspective was the fact that for women a lot of them did not understand their sexuality and desires unto later in life, some in their 40s and 50s who had married, had kids but were shameful and confused about their desires and attraction towards women. For them, hearing about our life's experience helped them understand themselves and have a different perspective as they had hidden that side of their lives for decades and often it was the first experience they had of funding it that it was normal and natural and allowed them to put aside the shame and confusion and they bisexuality was in fact the largest group of non heterosexual people.

I love this!

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 15:46

MarkingBad · 27/09/2024 13:13

Again, no one has said anything like that, it is pure assumption of peoples motives on your part.

Yes, an awful lot of people have expressed exactly this. They’ve made it very clear that just because they may not personally be affected by this event, or understand why it’s important for some people, it should not happen at all。

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 15:50

KimberleyClark · 27/09/2024 11:44

Have you ever been discriminated against for only liking straight men?

Haha exactly! Have you ever had to ‘come out’ as heterosexual knowing that people might respond by calling you an attention seeker because of it? Or assume that you’re promiscuous or indecisive or juvenile or any of the other things that have been suggested on this thread about bisexual people?!

BunnyLake · 27/09/2024 16:39

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 15:50

Haha exactly! Have you ever had to ‘come out’ as heterosexual knowing that people might respond by calling you an attention seeker because of it? Or assume that you’re promiscuous or indecisive or juvenile or any of the other things that have been suggested on this thread about bisexual people?!

Do you not just come out to your family and friends? Why would they think you are attention seeking (if that’s not your usual personality type). There isn’t any need to come with anyone outside of those is there? Obviously heterosexual people don’t come out to their family and friends but I can’t see who else one needs to come out to?

MarkingBad · 27/09/2024 18:46

Katielovesteatime · 27/09/2024 15:46

Yes, an awful lot of people have expressed exactly this. They’ve made it very clear that just because they may not personally be affected by this event, or understand why it’s important for some people, it should not happen at all。

Depends on how sensitive you are and have quick you are to make assumptions about peoples motives.

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