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Childminder pay after bereavement

161 replies

familylifeishard · 25/09/2024 17:27

Hi all, first time poster here so would appreciate your thoughts. Our childminders mum died last week so she didn’t work 2 of the 3 days my son goes there. No problem as I kept him at home whilst working. My question is, would you still pay her for those 2 days or let it go due to the bereavement. I feel awkward deducting the fees but DH says that the consequences of being self employed. She told me to take it off the monthly fee but I’d already paid it so don’t know what to do next month?! Thanks for reading and any thoughts you have!

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KnickerlessFlannel · 25/09/2024 18:20

gapattachment · 25/09/2024 18:01

Has your DH lost a parent yet?

Either way I'd be very upset to discover I was married to someone so heartless.

These were my thoughts too. I'd actually be really disappointed in this response from anyone I considered a friend, much less my partner.

Lilactimes · 25/09/2024 18:21

I would pay too - especially as you suffered no financial loss… it’s a decent and kind thing to do for someone you trust to care for your kids. I always think that relationship is always a bit more than transactional. X

BettyBardMacDonald · 25/09/2024 18:24

Marmaladegin · 25/09/2024 17:37

Regardless of contractual obligation I would pay- it's only a couple of days and showing compassion in a time of dire emotional upset would be an investment in the relationship with the person who cares for my DC imo

This. Have a heart.

I'd be appalled if my partner had your husband's attitude.

anxietyaardvark · 25/09/2024 18:25

How would you expect your employer/clients to treat you?

Justice4Friend · 25/09/2024 18:25

Just 2 days - let it go.

autienotnaughty · 25/09/2024 18:26

I had to go to hospital and ended up being off work 2 weeks. Two of my families paid me. I was so grateful I cried. I didn't have a lot of savings so it really helped

ginasevern · 25/09/2024 18:26

The woman looks after your children and from what I gather good childminders are hard to find. Who in their right minds would want to sour that relationship?

PosiePetal · 25/09/2024 18:26

It wouldn’t cross my mind for a second to not pay her. Your husband is very unkind.

DriverMeCrazy · 25/09/2024 18:28

Pay her. It’s the decent thing to do.

olympicsrock · 25/09/2024 18:33

Well done OP . You are doing the right thing . This is someone who has cared for 3 of your children. Good will goes a long way.

easylikeasundaymorn · 25/09/2024 18:34

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:55

'My young Nanny's Mother has just died prematurely. How can I gouge her wages during what is probably the worst time of her life?'

I have no words.

I agree OP did the right thing by paying anyway but, come on, what does this type of sensationalist daily mail clickbait style exaggeration achieve? OP has said literally nothing to indicate either that the childminder was young or that the death was premature, you've completely made that up!

Besides which, why would either of those things even be relevant?
The death of your parent is horrendous in most circumstances, it's still upsetting even if you're middle aged and they are elderly and the death wasn't unexpected.

Also, pedantic but you clearly do have words to express your view of the circumstances, you've used 24 of them....

Peony15 · 25/09/2024 18:34

Someone in a caring profession lost the person who cared for her the most.
Am aghast your husband would even think about , let alone not pay her for 2 days, under the cirumstances.
What has happened to human kindness, compassion and generosity in life, especially if you look for those traits in a caregiver for your children ?
Glad you did the right thing.

Simone70 · 25/09/2024 18:36

God, I’m dismayed by how many think you’re being reasonable (I assume to deduct). How depressing.

CocktailsAtNoon · 25/09/2024 18:37

We paid our cleaner for the entire time she could not come due to Covid. 2-plus years in the end of £280 a month.

Because it was not her fault she could not come.

I would pay her.

Simone70 · 25/09/2024 18:37

God, I’m dismayed by how many think you’re being reasonable (I assume to deduct). How depressing.

LBFseBrom · 25/09/2024 18:39

Notdeckingthehalls · 25/09/2024 17:34

I would pay. I’ve done similiar with a cleaner. A little good will goes a long way in this kind of relationship.

Agreed.

Tipsyscripsy · 25/09/2024 18:39

Starlightstarbright3 · 25/09/2024 17:31

depending on contract you are well within your rights not to pay … however as a previous childminder , I can tell you any parent that understood this wasn’t a planned time off would be more likely to engage in loyalty . When i gave up part of my reasons was seeing parents who just viewed it as a business transaction.

but it is a business transaction? You’re providing a service and they are paying for it…

Venturini · 25/09/2024 18:39

Wow he is a tight fucker isn't he.

BrightLightTonight · 25/09/2024 18:39

I am self employed, and don’t expect my employers to pay me for any time taken - that includes bereavement and sickness.

The perks of being self employed do mean that sometimes you have to suck it up.

stanleypops66 · 25/09/2024 18:39

It sounds like you were able to make it work without having to organise and pay for additional childcare (so not paying twice) so I'd pay her. Sounds like you have a good relationship and it's good to have good will.

Couldyounot · 25/09/2024 18:40

We had a similar situation years ago - childminder's family member had a life-changing accident and she had to close down her business to care for them. We let it go. Your husband can fuck off.

Fundays12 · 25/09/2024 18:41

I would pay her without hesitation. She cares for your child and deserves to be paid.

Difficultworkdecision · 25/09/2024 18:44

I had this exact situation last month.

My childminder deducted the pay off the next invoice but I gave her the cash in a card.

Having lost my own mum, I didn’t want her to feel any unnecessary stress even if that comes with the territory of being self employed

Snugglemonkey · 25/09/2024 18:45

Pleasegodgotosleep · 25/09/2024 17:31

Your husband is incredibly harsh. If I was a childminder and you penalised over the death of a parent I would give you notice.

Definitely. I would find this incredibly unattractive tbh. Generosity of spirit is really important to me.

stichguru · 25/09/2024 18:45

Yes legally not paying would be fine, but it would say "I don't care about you, don't value you and you are not worth my time." In which case your child shouldn't be worth her time.

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