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Why is mumsnet so sexist?

324 replies

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 10:41

Been on here a few months, and while it’s nice to see women sticking up for woman, it’s crazy how sexist some people are on here. I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated, I’ve seen posts saying “not surprised about huw Edward’s, no men can control themselves” and other numerous anti male threads and posts.

im a female for reference.

curious to see peoples opinions

YABU- it’s not constantly sexist on here
YANBU- it is constantly sexist on here

OP posts:
MorrisZapp · 23/09/2024 12:31

The attitudes towards married men and the women they cheat with are the stuff of Old Testament preaching. It's wildly sexist and promotes male freedom while devaluing women for their sexual behaviour. I'll never stop arguing against misogyny when I see it.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/09/2024 12:32

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 12:00

So please don't tell us the whole 'us and them' is childish
But it is. Men raping women is tragic. Women killing men is tragic. Men killing men is tragic as is women killing other women. And then you have men and women killing children.

In regards to the latter, more than 40% of the killers in these crimes were mothers, with fathers making up about 57% of those who killed their own offspring, so much more equal.

A professor at a US University has stated that 91% of family annihilators are men and often have a history of domestic violence.

There is an epidemic of violence against women and girls. That doesn't mean that women are never violent but there is really no comparison.

TheShellBeach · 23/09/2024 12:38

I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partner's name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated

Don't be ridiculous.

It's to safeguard the child from a deadbeat dad who will weaponise it and cause untold misery for the mother and her baby.

There's a thread going on at the moment, where a nightmare, violent man is refusing to take a toddler back to her mother, because the mum is trying to get CSA from him.

This is a scenario that women don't imagine will happen, and which they must avoid at all costs.

AmeliaEarache · 23/09/2024 12:38

My son is 25. He often jokes about tripping over the low bar set for men when he does anything that isn’t actively being a swine.

He says any praise men get is utterly worthless as the standard they are measured against is so low as to be disgraceful.

If a young heterosexual man can see that, why can’t the OP?

deargodno · 23/09/2024 12:39

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Megifer · 23/09/2024 12:41

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 11:39

Because the vast VAST majority of the time, violence of any form is perpetrated by men

Majority doesn't have to mean segregation though.

The outcome for the victim is exactly the same.

Men are much more likely to end their life. Should any intervention to reduce suicides be targeting men and ignoring women?

Are you including the men who take their children's lives or other family members with them as a final "fuck you, woman"?

As I'm sure other posters have pointed out, men will tend to choose certain methods that will almost always work and usually the most disturbing way to find someone (possibly another final "fuck you"). I'd imagine women try to do it in the least distressing way to others possible, meaning they often fail.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/09/2024 12:43

The only thing mumsnet hates more than men is trans people.

Or no time for hard of thinking people who can't grasp that it's males in women's spaces and sports where they shouldn't be regardless of what they feel like, that many women have a problem with. Never see any 'hate' for transmen. Funny that.

Naunet · 23/09/2024 12:48

If someone posts that their husband bought the wrong type of bread immediately half the comments will be saying divorce the cocklodger because it's abuse

What a ridiculous claim.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 23/09/2024 12:52

On here I only see well reasoned arguments with statistics to back them from the posters pointing out the issues with violence agains women
The NAMALT brigade wouldn't understand and intelligent argument if it smacked them in the face and tend to resort to making stuff up.
the difference is stark

Whatafustercluck · 23/09/2024 12:52

The only thing mumsnet hates more than men is trans people.

The only thing mumsnet hates more than misogyny is the erosion of sex based rights and protections. There, I fixed it for you. HTH.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2024 12:56

Whatafustercluck · 23/09/2024 12:52

The only thing mumsnet hates more than men is trans people.

The only thing mumsnet hates more than misogyny is the erosion of sex based rights and protections. There, I fixed it for you. HTH.

It's all misogyny really.

Whatafustercluck · 23/09/2024 12:58

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2024 12:56

It's all misogyny really.

Well, precisely.

5128gap · 23/09/2024 12:59

The site is female centred and mainly consists of women trying to support each other with their worries and issues. Unfortunately so many worries and issues for women concern the bad behaviour of men, so in supporting women with these you're going to see a fair bit of negativity around male behaviour.

You will also be used to the majority of our society being male centred. So even a minor shift in the other direction can be seen as a lot more extreme than it actually is. Any negativity around men on here is negligible compared with negativity towards women throughout the rest of the online (and real) world. So if you're concerned with equality and fighting sexism, there are far more urgent spaces in need of your attention than MN.

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:10

Megifer · 23/09/2024 10:56

"I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated"

Have you? Really? Or was that the thread where the guy wants to fuck off abroad and has shown he's a devious cunt so its absolutely logical to not have his name on the BC?

Please explain how it’s logical to leave a father off the birth certificate? If he’s the father, then he’s the father, being a bad dad doesn’t change that.

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:14

Megifer · 23/09/2024 12:41

Are you including the men who take their children's lives or other family members with them as a final "fuck you, woman"?

As I'm sure other posters have pointed out, men will tend to choose certain methods that will almost always work and usually the most disturbing way to find someone (possibly another final "fuck you"). I'd imagine women try to do it in the least distressing way to others possible, meaning they often fail.

This just proves OP’s point completely. You hate men that much you’re trying to say that they commit suicide as a ‘fuck you’ to a woman?! And women do it in a least distressing way to other?? Please just read your comment back, are you actually okay 😐

Covidian · 23/09/2024 13:14

Yet bring up trans people wanting to change their birth certificates and watch MNers profess the sanctity of accurate official governments documents lmao

TealTraybake · 23/09/2024 13:15

Some facts:

We live in a patriarchy.

Approx 2 women a week are killed by men.

93% of prisoners, are male.

Violence against Women and Girls (VAWG) is at an all time high.

Mumsnet is often a place where women feel they can discuss issues they’re having with men. Or discuss issues amongst themselves without the male voice taking over, as it so often does (fact not sexism).
True that no one really knows who is online, but it’s often clear when a man is on here, they’re not always (if ever) welcome. Women have so few spaces and little time to ourselves.

Megifer · 23/09/2024 13:17

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:10

Please explain how it’s logical to leave a father off the birth certificate? If he’s the father, then he’s the father, being a bad dad doesn’t change that.

I dont mean this to sound snarky, but if you can't think on your own why it would be logical in some instances, then me explaining why is unlikely to help you understand.

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/09/2024 13:18

I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated,

I don’t understand why this is sexist?

OutsideLookingOut · 23/09/2024 13:18

Serious question, does pointing out facts make you sexist? Is it sexual even if it’s true?

LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 13:18

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:14

This just proves OP’s point completely. You hate men that much you’re trying to say that they commit suicide as a ‘fuck you’ to a woman?! And women do it in a least distressing way to other?? Please just read your comment back, are you actually okay 😐

EDIT - nvm, misread and can't delete quote,

Megifer · 23/09/2024 13:20

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:14

This just proves OP’s point completely. You hate men that much you’re trying to say that they commit suicide as a ‘fuck you’ to a woman?! And women do it in a least distressing way to other?? Please just read your comment back, are you actually okay 😐

Where did i reference 'they'?

5128gap · 23/09/2024 13:23

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:10

Please explain how it’s logical to leave a father off the birth certificate? If he’s the father, then he’s the father, being a bad dad doesn’t change that.

Because if he's on the birth certificate he has parental responsibility. Sometimes a woman may not see it as advantageous to her or her child to share PR with the man. In such cases it is entirely logical to leave him off the birth certificate.

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:23

Megifer · 23/09/2024 13:17

I dont mean this to sound snarky, but if you can't think on your own why it would be logical in some instances, then me explaining why is unlikely to help you understand.

I can understand reasons why you’d want to, but you can’t change facts, the biological mother and father will never change and that is a fact.

Megifer · 23/09/2024 13:25

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:23

I can understand reasons why you’d want to, but you can’t change facts, the biological mother and father will never change and that is a fact.

Yea, I know