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Why is mumsnet so sexist?

324 replies

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 10:41

Been on here a few months, and while it’s nice to see women sticking up for woman, it’s crazy how sexist some people are on here. I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated, I’ve seen posts saying “not surprised about huw Edward’s, no men can control themselves” and other numerous anti male threads and posts.

im a female for reference.

curious to see peoples opinions

YABU- it’s not constantly sexist on here
YANBU- it is constantly sexist on here

OP posts:
bingobanjo · 23/09/2024 11:25

If you don’t like it, there’s lots of other websites that aren’t geared towards women (a group that is oppressed and harmed, typically by men)

Happy internetting!

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 11:28

I personally don't recognise at all the men described here, thankfully!

Of course they have their faults, but so do women. I find the whole 'us' and 'them' so childish.

Violence is that, violence, whether perpetrated by men or women. I don't get why we can't fight against it without making it a men only issue.

RonObvious · 23/09/2024 11:29

noworklifebalance · 23/09/2024 10:52

“not surprised about huw Edward’s, no men can control themselves”

Have you read about Dominique Pelicot’s trial and how easy it was for him to find over 50 men in the local area to rape drugged wife?
This may just give us a glimpse of how easy it is for many men to commit such crimes when give the opportunity or seemingly given “permission”, in this case by the husband of the victim.
Whilst I do not for one minute believe my DH/DB/DS would ever ever ever do something against women or girls, I am sure the same was true about Giselle Pelicot and her children.

This. So much this. One man said it couldn't be rape, because her husband was there. Another said that he thought something was wrong, as her husband asked him to leave when it looked like she was starting to wake up, thought briefly about reporting it, but didn't bother. What I found the scariest about that case was the number of men who genuinely didn't seem to think they were doing anything wrong.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:29

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2024 11:17

Unsurprisingly you’re getting a lot of hate on here OP.

Posters rebutting an AIBU post they find unreasonable isn't 'hate'.Hmm

Agreed. Not really hate.

OP posts:
Naunet · 23/09/2024 11:30

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:07

I’m on Reddit too.

And have you ever posted at men on there calling them out for their general misogyny?

Honestly, I have a special place in my heart for people like you, so brain washed by the misogyny in society that you barely see it anymore, yet the slightest, most low level sexism towards men makes you uncomfortable. It’s interesting, especially to see in women.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:31

AnonymousBleep · 23/09/2024 11:10

There's always some pickme who has to stick up for the men, even the rapey, cheating, paedo ones.

I am not sticking up for scumbags who rape and cheat, just as I don’t stick up for women who SA and cheat.

OP posts:
Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:31

Naunet · 23/09/2024 11:30

And have you ever posted at men on there calling them out for their general misogyny?

Honestly, I have a special place in my heart for people like you, so brain washed by the misogyny in society that you barely see it anymore, yet the slightest, most low level sexism towards men makes you uncomfortable. It’s interesting, especially to see in women.

I have, yes. I dislike sexism of either sex.

OP posts:
ShamblesRock · 23/09/2024 11:31

Errors · 23/09/2024 11:19

The problem is that men exist on a spectrum of shit. The good ones only seem good because the bad ones are such cunts.

You can expect an award as a man if you just see your children occasionally, or if you don’t cheat, or if you just have a job AND actually do the washing up sometimes. The bar is very, very low.

I think unintentionally you have proved the OP's point.

Sexist is the wrong word, but the man hatred can be dripping at times.

RedheadedSoulStealer · 23/09/2024 11:31

Hobnobswantshernameback · 23/09/2024 11:17

I swear this place has been invaded by a particularly thick cohort of MRAs

It's starting to get really bad now. There has to be some red-pill reddit group where they've all said to come target Mumsnet.

There didn't use to be nearly this many MRA-esque posts or people pretending to be women (when they clearly arent) to further their agenda.

I'm not accusing OP of this as I haven't looked into them, but its been rampant.

LostTheMarble · 23/09/2024 11:32

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 11:28

I personally don't recognise at all the men described here, thankfully!

Of course they have their faults, but so do women. I find the whole 'us' and 'them' so childish.

Violence is that, violence, whether perpetrated by men or women. I don't get why we can't fight against it without making it a men only issue.

Because the vast VAST majority of the time, violence of any form is perpetrated by men. It is a male issue, against women and other men. Never mind a society that was and is still built on men having power and control. You can choose not to see the issue but that is your own blindness, not an enlightenment on equality of negative aspects of both sexes.

Naunet · 23/09/2024 11:32

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 11:28

I personally don't recognise at all the men described here, thankfully!

Of course they have their faults, but so do women. I find the whole 'us' and 'them' so childish.

Violence is that, violence, whether perpetrated by men or women. I don't get why we can't fight against it without making it a men only issue.

And how do you ‘fight against it’ if you don’t recognise the dynamites? It’s like trying to fight racism without acknowledging skin colour.

pinkdelight · 23/09/2024 11:32

The world is sexist, mostly against women. The way many women have been treated, it's actually more infuriating how many cut bad men a massive amount of slack on here. For every instance of (often wise) advice to ltb off the birth certificate, there are many many more instances of women trapped in abusive situations unable to escape. Sure there's some extreme views both ways, same as IRL, but overall in over a decade on here, I've found a balance of opinions and enough good being done to outweigh any harm.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:33

Errors · 23/09/2024 11:19

The problem is that men exist on a spectrum of shit. The good ones only seem good because the bad ones are such cunts.

You can expect an award as a man if you just see your children occasionally, or if you don’t cheat, or if you just have a job AND actually do the washing up sometimes. The bar is very, very low.

You are the exact sort of poster I am referring to

OP posts:
Brefugee · 23/09/2024 11:34

BeMintBee · 23/09/2024 10:51

Congrats bet ya a really cool girlfriend who just clicks better with men ain’t ya 🙄

Men only pick them until something better comes along 🙃

Naunet · 23/09/2024 11:34

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:31

I have, yes. I dislike sexism of either sex.

Edited

Can you give examples of what you’ve said and the response you got from men?

Errors · 23/09/2024 11:34

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:33

You are the exact sort of poster I am referring to

Yes, I am well aware. I am sexist. We cannot turn a blind eye to women being sexist but men can crack on, right?

ThisPresetIsSelected · 23/09/2024 11:34

So much of this arguing wouldn't occur if your average person could differentiate between the statements "most violent acts are carried out by males" and "most males carry out violent acts".

CurlewKate · 23/09/2024 11:35

@KhakiShaker "Unsurprisingly you’re getting a lot of hate on here OP."
No she isn't. She's just being disagreed with.

Feel free to report any "hate" and it will be deleted.

Feedable · 23/09/2024 11:35

There is a lot of hostility to you OP but a third of the posters agree with you. I don't agree with the use of the word 'sexist' but double standards are rife on here. I think there are double standards when it comes to women contributing financially to the household. There are for more economically inactive women in the UK than men. Mostly older women. Men who don't work are described as cock lodgers. Many women choose to be financially reliant on male partners so they don't have to work.
I hate the misogynistic attitude to women on here by other women. MILS are routinely disparaged, as are SILS and Stepdaughters. MN can be hugely supportive of other women but can also be hyper critical of other women. It is very noticeable and shaming. There is a lot of research that backs up the hostility shown by women to other women who are not directly blood relatives. You see that a lot on MN.
I think despite the endless reassurances from HQ that MN is for all parents, there are many posters who try to chase away male posters asking for advice.
I think it is important to call that out. MN moderators do act when someone is being bullied on threads simply for being male.

CurlewKate · 23/09/2024 11:36

@KhakiShaker "does rile me when I see posts encouraging women to use their kids as weapons against the father."

Yes, that would rile me too. Point me to some examples and I'll pile in.

LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 11:37

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 11:33

You are the exact sort of poster I am referring to

And how do you know if that poster just feels that way "bc" or whether it's from life experiences where the men in their life have independently and separately caused that person harm? If they have been consistently let down by males I don't think their attitude is surprising.

StEthelburgaRose · 23/09/2024 11:37

CrouchingTigerHiddenChocolate · 23/09/2024 10:43

You think it's sexist here? Have you seen the rest of the internet where women are routinely threatened with rape and murder?

I agree with this

StEthelburgaRose · 23/09/2024 11:38

BiologicalKitty · 23/09/2024 10:43

Rules of Misogyny:

  1. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry.

And this!

Naunet · 23/09/2024 11:39

ShamblesRock · 23/09/2024 11:31

I think unintentionally you have proved the OP's point.

Sexist is the wrong word, but the man hatred can be dripping at times.

Man hate?! Jesus fucking Christ, the things men do to us and say about us that isn’t classed as hate but that post is?! Well rest assured, when women hate men, they tend to want to stay as far away from them as possible, its really not a problem. When men hate women they tend to want to hurt us.

Errors · 23/09/2024 11:39

LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 11:37

And how do you know if that poster just feels that way "bc" or whether it's from life experiences where the men in their life have independently and separately caused that person harm? If they have been consistently let down by males I don't think their attitude is surprising.

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