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To be annoyed the charity shop called me rude

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ohmydays37 · 22/09/2024 23:07

I donated two huge bags of clothes to local charity shop. Before I could even ask a question the woman who worked there demand my postcode for gift aid. I said my husband deals with that and I explained I wasn't comfortable giving his details without his permission. She then said, I was extremely rude and it was for gift aid and she was running a business. In no way was I being rude (which I told her).

I guess my AIBU to think you can't just ambush people for gift aid without knowing if 1) they pay tax and 2) you need to explain the details of it. Which she didn't.

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surreygirl1987 · 23/09/2024 07:14

SonjaBarkerFinch · 23/09/2024 06:51

This!

Just another day in the life of a mumsnetter!

”My husband deals with that”????

If he's the one that pays tax, they she has no right dealing with Gift Aid on his behalf. If my husband made decisions about GA for me I'd be furious. I don't do Gift Aid.

NowImNotDoingIt · 23/09/2024 07:15

Shoxfordian · 23/09/2024 05:36

She was abrupt but you could have just given the postcode, don't really know why you wouldn't do that tbh

Because she doesn't pay tax and she couldn't have gift aided anyway. So what's the point?

TylerEndicott · 23/09/2024 07:16

friendlycat · 22/09/2024 23:58

These people are volunteers doing a decent job for free.

I really can’t imagine she demanded things of you. She just asked a straight forward question. All you had to do was say no I don’t do gift aid.

They're not all technically volunteers, near us some of them are staffed by offenders who are doing community service as part of their sentence.

Londonrach1 · 23/09/2024 07:16

Yanbu. She was rude. I'm self employed and my tax is complicated enough without doing gift aid as well. I refuse to do gift aid. I find it rude to be asked. Even if I didn't have to do my tax return is still refuse to do gift aid as you giving the government too much information. Just my opinion before anyone jumps on me. My mum s friend has to pay as she hadn't paid enough tax during the year to cover her donations.

surreygirl1987 · 23/09/2024 07:17

Thebellofstclements · 23/09/2024 03:59

Gift aid means a charity receives your tax money rather than the government. Every time people complain about lack of resources in eg. Education, SEN support, it's because less money is sloshing around for the government to use. Some of it is going to pay extraordinarily high salaries of "charity" CEOs etc instead. That is why lots of people do not gift aid.

This.

I think some people thing it's somehow 'free'money.

surreygirl1987 · 23/09/2024 07:18

Octavia64 · 23/09/2024 04:18

Well, she might have been rude.

But I imagine it's policy.

It's a bit like objecting to someone in McDonald's saying would you like fries with that?
The conversation will be scripted and they will be expected to stick to the script.

This is common in retail - eg WHSmith saying we have water on offer would you like one or when BP are doing a loyalty card drive they ask literally everyone whether they have one.

Most charities that I have interacted with recently - national trust, English heritage, etc always ask about gift aid now.

As an aside, saying your husband deals with it is if not rude, odd. Surely you know if you pay tax?

No it isn't. It's like asking would you like the tax you paid on your fries to be rediverted to us (and by the way you can only do this if you pay tax). People need to stop thinking of Gift Aid as free money.

RampantIvy · 23/09/2024 07:18

Our local hospice closed all their retail shops during lockdown and opened up a shop on the side of a warehouse on a trading estate.

It means that customers and people who donate can park right outside. The staff are lovely and helpful and are always delighted to receive donations.

The charity I volunteer with has raised thousands of pounds for the hospice, and when they came to give a talk at one of our meetings I was amazed at just how much money they raise from selling goods at their retail hub. They accept clothes, household items, furniture and electrical goods, which they have PAT tested before they go on sale.

Donating to them is stress free and easy.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 23/09/2024 07:19

Yes she shouldn't have been rude of course but wouldn't it have been simpler to just say I'm not a tax payer when she asked about gift aid?

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wickerlady · 23/09/2024 07:23

Wantsalotofattentio · 22/09/2024 23:18

I can't get past you not giving out your post code without your husband's permission

It's not just giving out a postcode though is it?

It's OP saying it's ok for the charity shop to claim tax back on goods donated on her husbands behalf, which he hasn't given permission for. OP doesn't pay tax so couldn't tick the declaration for herself.

warmduvetnights · 23/09/2024 07:23

Needmorelego · 22/09/2024 23:20

If the women in the shop actually said the words the OP said then it's more just odd than rude.
She's not "running a business" - she's working for a charity - so odd thing to say.
Any manager of a charity shop should know that not everyone pays tax so can't sign up for Gift Aid - so being rude because the OP said no is even more bizarre.
@ohmydays37 I'd just forget about it. It all sounds a weird interaction. Donate to a different charity shop next time.

They are run as businesses. The managers are retail managers and have targets to hit like any other business. They are income for the charity and professionally run.

That individual was rude and unprofessional though

Holidayhell22 · 23/09/2024 07:23

Interesting points re gift aid, thank you for the information.
The woman in the shop was very rude.
She needs to learn that:

  1. not everyone is eligible for gift aid
  2. not everyone wants to sign up to it
  3. she is not complying to GDPR guidelines.
  4. her attitude might be damaging the charity.
Teateaandmoretea · 23/09/2024 07:24

Yabu for contributing to the ridiculous mumsnet handwringing over ‘rudeness’

Being rude isn’t a crime, sometimes it’s justified. Just move on.

Soontobe60 · 23/09/2024 07:25

Wantsalotofattentio · 22/09/2024 23:18

I can't get past you not giving out your post code without your husband's permission

Me neither! It smacks of Stepford Wives.

Soontobe60 · 23/09/2024 07:26

Holidayhell22 · 23/09/2024 07:23

Interesting points re gift aid, thank you for the information.
The woman in the shop was very rude.
She needs to learn that:

  1. not everyone is eligible for gift aid
  2. not everyone wants to sign up to it
  3. she is not complying to GDPR guidelines.
  4. her attitude might be damaging the charity.

Or just maybe the OP was rude too? After all, we only have one side of the story here.

Teateaandmoretea · 23/09/2024 07:27

Or just maybe the OP was rude too?

Why is being mildly rude such an issue?

Calmestofallthechickens · 23/09/2024 07:28

I ALWAYS use ‘my husband deals with that’ if I can’t be bothered engaging with someone - do you want a deal on your broadband? Husband. do you want to change your energy supplier? Husband. Can I have a moment of your time to tell you about canine war veterans? Husband.

My husband similarly says he can’t do things because ‘his wife deals with it’. Doesn’t everyone? It’s not a 1950s/sexist thing, I thought it was like the universally acknowledged socially acceptable way to say ‘I can’t be arsed’. 🫣

Moonshiners · 23/09/2024 07:28

JennySayQuoi · 22/09/2024 23:43

Thing is, if your husband isn't signed up to Gift Aid in that particular charity, there's no point you giving his details anyway. You're not allowed to sign on his behalf; a new Gift Aid declaration needs the signature of the tax payer. And if she is 'running a business' she should know that!

DH does it all in my name, not sure why it's an issue, as long as he is paying tax in the UK.

Unitedthebest · 23/09/2024 07:29

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 23:10

I would be generous OP as some people working in charity shops have learning difficulties. I donated some bags of stuff once and asked for the bags back and the woman said, "Stupid woman!" But I believe the staff were SEN.

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Had SEN not were SEN-its not their whole identity

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 23/09/2024 07:29

You can't get gift aid on clothing donations, it's for money.
However your response was odd, if you'd just said I'm not eligible for gift aid it might've been different.

DrummingMousWife · 23/09/2024 07:30

Don’t go there again a don’t donate. People are kindly giving their items and she is being a rude nasty woman

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Gowlett · 23/09/2024 07:32

I just say “no thanks” to all of these questions in shops.

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